Them two kids parked up in the Subway car park, both in a jam sandwich looked absolutely burnt out for the 45 minutes I witnessed

A car each I forgot to mention

Couldn't agree more with this post as I have always been a dedicated (working) dog man all my life.
I always clean up after mine unless we are in the wilderness and so I despair when cat owners think it is ok for their pets to use my garden as a toilet.
We had an even worse problem over at Cas a few years ago when some moron was leaving sausages laced with needles.

This is my experience of cyclists too.

There are loads of cyclists without lights and quite often in dark clothing, oblivious to the fact that they are putting themselves in danger.
Who would be most responsible for an accident- someone driving at 35 in a 30 limit or the guy, riding his bike, without light, in dark clothing and ignoring the traffic signals.
The cyclist can see where they are going, just as a pedestrian can but, they need to be visible

See what you've done there - you've transposed some cyclists not using lights, to loads of cyclists not using lights; and along the way, you've added the extra offences of wearing dark clothing and ignoring traffic signals; who is this suicidal, night-vision having, ninja-costumed cyclist who has fomented such hatred in you?!

Just be careful in your fu**ing car mate - it's much more logically sound than turning cyclists into suicidal accident magnets, who deliberately ride their inoffensive, zero-emission, cheap form of transport, to entrap you into killing them with your car.

You are right about car drivers, but unfortunately from the evidence I've seen, there must be some of the cycling group you refer to out there.

That's rather my point - in every activity you do, in every area of your life, there are people doing things outside the rules, or without care for other people; that doesn't mean that *everyone* who does that activity behaves like that, nor does it give you licence to vilify everyone who does that activity - apart from you of course - because we never include ourselves in these generalised rants - hence why we sit in our cars kicking off about 'traffic,' without accepting that by virtue of being stuck in traffic, we are ourselves, traffic.

Cyclists are, for the most part, either getting from a to b cheaply, or trying to be healthy; yes some cyclists are reckless or inconsiderate, but that's hardly reason for the easily triggered hate mob that will, at just one signal from their leather blouson wearing pied piper Mr Clarkson, wax lyrical about why cyclists should be insured, you should be able to run them off the road, or any other number of ridiculous and largely unfounded criticisms.

We do realise that you only hate us because your WAGs ogle our well-toned, freshly shaven, muscular legs - but you can get over that, surely?

Oh - and don't poison dogs.

Nothing more annoying than a group of cyclists hogging the road. At least horse riders go single file or at least when you drive past them.

And then there’s the unused cycle lane down Asdale Road.

think you'll need to rethink your attitude as it annoyed to the point of researching up are cyclists and horses allowed to ride in tandem on the road and the answer was yes, you also have to give 3 foot distance when overtaking them, this was when I couldn't over take two police horses having the steadiest stroll you could ever imagine and didn't give to hoots to what was lining up behind them

You need to re-read the Highway Code mate - cyclists are perfectly entitled to ride two abreast (which they will often do to dissuade impatient idiots from overtaking them dangerously) and cycle lanes are by no means compulsory; I rarely use them myself, as they are too narrow, and force you to ride too near the kerb - which encourages the previously mentioned impatient idiot to overtake you when it's not safe to do so.

Cycling in an assertive lane position is a self-preservation tactic in many instances; I also like to do it *specifically* to pi$$ you off.

Cyclists are much safer to overtake when they ride in a small group, rather than in a long line. 8 cyclists riding in a small group is just like overtaking a single van. 8 cyclists riding in a long line requires much more length of road to overtake them, and more time spent on the wrong side of the road.

Well if you like to p%ss people off deliberately you shouldn't be too surprised if that is exactly what happens.

Well if you like to p%ss people off deliberately you shouldn't be too surprised if that's exactly what happens.

They were probably on a steak-out !!!!!!





…I'll get my coat

That’s if there’s 100 yards at the side of them to over take that some people need

if not then a queue a mile long, bloody horses.

And all the horse muck all over BLM.

Can't comment too much regarding cyclists, as I do a bit of cycling myself, though personally, prefer to do it in spring and summer, when it is light, and off road. Quite like the Wakefield wheel route, though not done the whole route in one go.

I wish cyclists would just ride on the path.

I raced push bikes all over the country at a very high level for 20+ years, up to 100 mile races at a weekend and over 300 miles a week training during the season, which is more than some of the so called car drivers will do in a year and you wouldn’t believe some of the driving standards by the fools in cars. I also drive a car and cover many miles per year and just to rub it in, I ride a high powered motor bike and experience similar as I did all them years ago, might be the same morons who’ve got a bit older I don’t know, so please don’t tell me nothing about car drivers . This argument will never go away, I know, but if these lardies in cars had a go on today’s roads they might, just might have a little change in mindset. Like I say this thread will no doubt go on and on, little rant over

Commendable BLM, but in those days didn't cars have to have someone walking in front of them waving a red flag ????

not long before FIL

Reports of another death thornes park now