Hard to disagree with any of that Kev

Because he wasn’t match fit

He was plenty fit enough to play longer minutes than either Gwaze or Hirst did. It was a selection choice. Chesters use of his subs in that heat wasn’t the best.

after a performance like that how can you say your not sure players are not committed. I saw nothing from the vast majority to even come near to commitment. We have nothing to offer at the moment and most other clubs would be making major changes and insisting on a vast improvement. its so disheartening watching a performance like that and the travelling many will reduce in numbers the next time around. It used to be bad enough traveling back over the Pennines after a rank performance but I can only imagine what its like traveling home from France.

Maybe it’s the back room team we have - we have probably spent less in that area so we can spend more on players but not sure it has worked. When Chester had an experienced man alongside him (kear and then Monaghan) we did look much more organised both defensively and in attack.

The injuries won’t have helped this season, but maybe the back room needs an overhaul including the conditioning department

Well what ever the reason the club need to put things right asap. I don't see that squad providing an up turn required to pull results out of the bag. I think we must be the easiest team to get a win from at the moment and with very little to offer in attack the chances of out scoring a team are remote. The players have to be made responsible and MUST commit probably a solid defensive performance may go a way to returning some confidence.

The only saving grace is, even though London and HKR have improved, it's a tough ask for them to win 3, which is with us not winning. I just want to see us scrap and fight and defend like our lives depend on it against Cas, just like Leeds did. If we lose because they are better fair enough, but not because they simply wanted it more.

My point is that they can scrap and fight individually as much and as hard as they want but that won't be enough if they aren't organised and doing the basics well, as a team and with a plan. That's back to the coach.

Agreed, when you think about it we have nothing going for us at all at the minute do we?!

There may be trouble ahead! Still 32 degrees here in Canet. Recovery will be an issue for the game v Cas and they will come out of the blocks fast and try to blow us away. Shame we cannot conjure a few fresh bodies other than MCB.

Can't see recovery as been a major issue for next week ,we're talking top athletes here not a team from down the pub .
Our major issues are shoring up our defences, running onto the ball at pace ,giving away penalties and stopping the offloads ,all basics of the game but for some unknown reason it either doesn't sink in or is not coached in the first place .Get these basics right and we will become a competitive team who won't be the fall guys for every team supposedly targeting us as a win .

Not sure how fresh MCB will be given he is still playing sevens rugby in the Cayman Islands!

Top athletes ? Sorry for having an opinion, should have known better.

I agree 100% FIL. Spot on. BJB is the biggest culprit. All those in the crowd can see it, so why can't those that matter?

I’ve tried to explain this on numerous occasions, edge defence starts at marker and pressure on the attack ripples from marker out toward the wing as the ball travels through the attack out toward the edges.

The reason edge defence gets caught with 2 or 3 Vs 1 is because defenders on the inside don’t push out as the ball travels out. That then forces the edge defence to jam in trying to kill the overlap before it happens or to position themselves between the opposition winger and centre (no mans land). If the ball bypasses the winger via clever passing then it looks like the edge has failed but most often it’s the middle that caused it.

There are other skills that can help like edges jamming in as a unit or folding as a unit to avoid committing too early but they’re all symptoms of bad, lazy or poor decisions made by the middle.

Chester and Co seem to have zero clue how to coach edge defence - YES but they can’t coach defence - PERIOD!

Bout time they gave someone else a go on that right wing. Lets see if we can blame the other 12 players then.

Wasn’t a dig Manuel ,but these players have the best of everything these days and all we ask for is 80 mins out of them and they couldn’t be d doing that .Good job their not race horses or it would’ve been the knackers yard for the lot of em after that showing .

Just hearing Bradford were playing at Toulouse in near 40c heat and had a cracker of a game to come away with a win.Tells you all you need to know .

Thanks for the technical insight Avenger...it makes you wonder whether the Coaches actually watch any other matches to try and work out why we are so poor at edge defence and what needs to be done to rectify the problem, 'cos it sure ain't rocket science !!
Are we taking bets on Eden getting a hat-trick on Friday night ??

A hat-trick is just wishful thinking. He'll probably score 4.

Based on how Castleford played against Leeds, it's going to be a dog fight IMO but regrettably one we're probably not going to be up for...

well for me its an opportunity for the players to dig deep and for the supporters to view the effort and access what should be a 100% improvement . If its not it will show just how committed the players are and they will deserve all the flack they get.

I don't see any kind of improvements in any department. We are not coached and if we are why persist with under performing individuals. Positional changes needed asap.

we have signed all the same players again for next year ,

so we can expect the same results of being down the bottom....

As usual, you are wrong again.