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| Quote ="Chorlton RL"I believe only Hull FC and Leeds make a profit.'"
Cas and Salford too I think.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Cas and Salford too I think.'"
cas made a very small profit.call dickie what you like but he cuts his cloth to suit.
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| very good buisness man is wright, as proven.
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| Pulling us out of super league would be totally wrong. What we need to do is get behind whatever team is left after this 'fire sale' and give belle vue one final glorious season and stick two fingers up to everyone else who thinks we should be in the top tier.
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| Quote ="JJW17"Pulling us out of super league would be totally wrong. What we need to do is get behind whatever team is left after this 'fire sale' and give belle vue one final glorious season and stick two fingers up to everyone else who thinks we should be in the top tier.'"
even when cas were relagated they didnt lose hardly any of there fan base, dare say they had more fans watching then we did at the time. id go see wakefield no matter what league there in, and there are no excuses from fans saying where not going because richardson is in charge. well the little turd has gone now so every true trin fan needs to get behind this once great club.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"What a load of horse cack!!!
Hudds couldnt turn a profit from a CC Final.
Most of the clubs in super league cant turn a profit.'"
You miss my point, you wont meet SL criteria in future years.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Jesus H Arkwright - this is one depressing thread!
We've had to watch the SL bandwagon roll on from the lower divisions for 15 years now down here in the land the RFL forgot. I still have a club. It's doing ok and building slowly from being in administration a few years ago. - Something Wakey may well have to emulate.
I can't believe some are suggesting 'fold the club'!!!! Dear God, what are you going to do next year - abandon your club??
I various futile arguments on various fora re the 'we have more fans than you' cobblers, there is no doubt some fans will stay away and will not want to watch anything other than SL. We at rovers have done exactly that and are now finding ways of attracting the stay-aways back to post office rd.
Wakey should do well to jolly up the fans NOW and prep them so you retain as many as poss for the championship. It's 'different' down here and what you are left with are the die-hards, fruitcakes and straw clutchers watching games - but you know what - it has been a right laugh! It's not like winning at wembley etc - but nonetheless, it's a hoot.
Get your heads round it, prep yourself, and get ready to enjoy rugby outside SL.
It might feel like sheeeite when you're hoofed out - as it did for us, but fold the club??? Can't understand that!'"
i think your right there, popped down with a fev fan when you played leigh midweek, there was more entertainment that night than watching us in 10 games. it was ok when we first went into sl, a laugh now its a borefest. i remember going to huyton and donny years back when they never won a game for ages. that was a laugh.
sl will eventually shoot itself in the foot and come back for fev and wakey and fax. might take a while but it will happen.
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| Quote ="Standee"some of you guys are forgetting that the players are in an uncertain position at the moment, they work for a company in administration with little or no evidence that the new company will honour their terms and conditions etc. If YOU were in the same situation you'd be looking to move on.
What amazes me is the amount of surprise, enough people have been saying this was only a matter of time, there is no conspiracy, just an unfortunate failed business coming to the end of it's life.
Will Wakefield rise from the ashes, I doubt it, once you're in NL1/2 (which you will be if this carries on) then there isn't a way back I am afraid, the club couldn't turn a ptofir from a CC Semi Final appearance and good league finish.
I feel for you, as fans of a club, but I have no sympathy for the club as a business.'"
Don't listen to this, we were told this for years in our dark days, there looked like there was no light at the end of the tunnel but we steadily got our act together and came out of the other side stronger for it. As the Fev fan said earlier its different in the NL's but ti doesn;t make it any less enjoyable in some ways it bonds the team and the fans and as I say WHEN you rise up again it makes one hell of a journey.
I really feel for you guys but stick this year out, sing loud regardless of results and circumstance and maybe you'll shock a few along the way. Hopefully you'll be back sooner rather than later.
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| Don't be daft my local football team has recently run out of money and not paying the players for the rest of the season. The local support has be amazing and determined not to let the club die. Wakey are in SL on merit, have a proud history and must never give up. I thought you lot were from Yorkshire and they never give up a fight.
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| Quote ="daftdad"Don't be daft my local football team has recently run out of money and not paying the players for the rest of the season. The local support has be amazing and determined not to let the club die. Wakey are in SL on merit, have a proud history and must never give up. I thought you lot were =#FF4000from Yorkshire and they never give up a fight.'"
We don't!
And we have long memories too.
Ps. and a vindictive streak reserved for those who deserve it!
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| Quote ="Standee"You miss my point, you wont meet SL criteria in future years.'"
Still a load of horse cack then!!!
How do you know what the criteria will be in future years?
How do you know Wakefield wont meet it?
What relevance is not making a profit now in a dilapidated stadium and having a cc semi final spot,when teams in modern stadia cant turn a profit after a cc final spot?
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| Quote ="The Clan"We don't!
And we have long memories too.
Ps. and a vindictive streak reserved for those who deserve it!'"
Crikey,you sound alot like my wife!!!!!
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| When posted the topic yesterday it was obviously an emotional knee jerk reaction to all that has gone on recently, you could say the straw that broke the camels back.
I'm proud of the clubs heritage and I'd like to see us fight to the end and YES I will be at every game to support whats left to pull on the shirt. But as I said I dread to think what it's going to do to the young players we'll be left with.
All I hope for is AG can sort out the mess and get some players in by whatever means.
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| Quote ="NEwildcat"When posted the topic yesterday it was obviously an emotional knee jerk reaction to all that has gone on recently, you could say the straw that broke the camels back.
I'm proud of the clubs heritage and I'd like to see us fight to the end and YES I will be at every game to support whats left to pull on the shirt. But as I said I dread to think what it's going to do to the young players we'll be left with.
All I hope for is AG can sort out the mess and get some players in by whatever means.'"
I was just about to post to say that all this talk of rolling over and pulling out is total tripe and [unot[/u what we should be thinking at all. Keep on supporting the 17 in red white and blue and whoever has the balls to take over the running of the club. It's obviously going to be a bumpy ride but whilst we still have a club we should never give in. Glad you're back on board!
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| Quote ="Kevs Head"I was just about to post to say that all this talk of rolling over and pulling out is total tripe and [unot[/u what we should be thinking at all. Keep on supporting the 17 in red white and blue and whoever has the balls to take over the running of the club. It's obviously going to be a bumpy ride but whilst we still have a club we should never give in. Glad you're back on board!'"
Never really went to be honest. Just very upset, as we all are. Very worried about the players that'll be left.
As I said I'll be there!
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| Quote ="NEwildcat"=#FF0000When posted the topic yesterday it was obviously an emotional knee jerk reaction to all that has gone on recently, you could say the straw that broke the camels back.
I'm proud of the clubs heritage and I'd like to see us fight to the end and YES I will be at every game to support whats left to pull on the shirt. But as I said I dread to think what it's going to do to the young players we'll be left with.
All I hope for is AG can sort out the mess and get some players in by whatever means.'"
yes and a massive one at that.
now you have picked up the dummy that you spat out your saying what the club wants to hear, the club and players who ever will be left will need as much support as before and we know its not going to be pretty.
game after game will be a task in its self so we need to restrain our selves from getting on the players backs when it all goes pear shaped
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| Just look at how quickly things could change for the better. New owner (finally) takes over , and, injects some much needed cash (not masses), positive decision on the stadium, the club is an entirely different prospect.
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| Quote ="ry21"Just look at how quickly things could change for the better. New owner (finally) takes over , and, injects some much needed cash (not masses), positive decision on the stadium, the club is an entirely different prospect.'"
I'll settle for a club to support at the moment, wherever they play.
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| Quote ="NEwildcat"I'll settle for a club to support at the moment, wherever they play.'"
Wouldn't we all. Just shows how quickly things can change tho.
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| Our Club does meet the criteria other clubs are following our examples and we have a community and academy dept second to none we just don't have our stadium yet but we will get one, And the fans will return for an enjoyable afternoons rugby the problem is RFL hate the Richardson just as much as most wakey fans they just wouldn't b**ger off in time for the damage to be minimized now its an uphill battle for the good guys to sort
If we show unity we keep our dignity and eventually get back on a good footing with the RFL but only because we have to not because we want to they are not moral in the way they conduct there business
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| You are James elston and I claim my five pounds. This is no disrespect to you and I'm glad you're drumming up support for what will be a testing season.
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| Just remember, the actions you pursue now will have a great bearing on the future, Rugby League, like any sport goes in Cycles, you only have to look at Hull KR to see the amazing turnaround in such a short space of time.
Your day will come again, will certainly be visiting Belle Vue again this year, what a horribly, brilliant place to visit!
Good luck in securing your near future.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"very good buisness man is wright, as proven.'"
too right that mate, some cas fans slate wrighty cos he's never spends too much on star players or overpaid players, we've had some but not many, but he's a business man and he keeps us afloat, and as most wakey fans know ted has been completely different. a team doesn't need lots of stars to be a winning team, look at when we had raper as coach we had decent players but not world beaters yet we were 80 mins away from the grand final, ok we didn't get into the grand final but we got closer than we have ever been.
what wakey need is someone similar to wright, a business man, hopefully glover will be that man, not overspend on players and keep you running either breaking even or at a small profit, you won't see loads of silverware but you will not find yourself in the situation you are in now and every now and again you may find a coach who gets that bit more out of your players and you do well in the playoffs.
i'm quite happy with how cas have gone on for the 10 years or so, we got relegated twice but we continued to run the club as it should be run (unlike wigan) but it has kept us afloat (which is good for a town club) and every so oft we finish in the playoffs, i would love for us to finish in the playoffs every season and reach the grand final every season but i am a realist and until we get the new stadium we won't.
another good thing for wakey is to get a very good commercial manager like craig, he has worked wonders for us as shows with getting probiz to sponsor us and he just seems to get better sponsors each year.
you have wanted ted out but unfortunately he didn't go early enough for you, i personally would only want wrighty to go if the owner of probiz decided to buy him out, because i have never knocked other clubs for having sugar daddies as some people put it so i wouldn't be a hypocrite by saying i would love cas to have a sugar daddy and someone with the marketing power of probiz would be excellent, i would use his name but i keep forgetting how to spell it
wakey are in deep at the moment but if glover does take over and you do end up in nl then it gives him 3-6 years to get wakey working as it should be and although there is no guarantee you will be allowed up there is also no guarantee you wont, so lets presume you do get back up then you could be similar to cas not being over successful but running smoothly, a better coach would help as good attacking rugby is attractive, i noticed on superleague show how they were commenting on how much they like cas's attacking style of play, things like that help to attract decent sponsors.
i know i mention my team a lot in this but only as an example, i'm not trolling or taking the mick, if we can do it as a town club then anyone can, its all down to who runs our club and who coaches. as one of my favourite historical figures once said "I do not fear an army of lions if they are led by a lamb. I do fear an army of sheep if they are led by a lion."
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| Quote ="NEwildcat"When posted the topic yesterday it was obviously an emotional knee jerk reaction to all that has gone on recently, you could say the straw that broke the camels back.
I'm proud of the clubs heritage and I'd like to see us fight to the end and YES I will be at every game to support whats left to pull on the shirt. But as I said I dread to think what it's going to do to the young players we'll be left with.
All I hope for is AG can sort out the mess and get some players in by whatever means.'"
I've been there. I know how it feels to think your club is dead thanks to the workings of politically minded people and owners with anything but the clubs best interest at heart and I totally understand. I said some things I regret at the time, and others I very much don't, and it's tempting to walk away from RL and the club completely, but then you remember why you support them in the first place, that it isn't the clubs fault and you all deserve better so walking away wont solve the issues you're going through or the pain you're feeling.
I say this as a fan of a club who has been through this, and come through it stronger, and it could happen to you too as long as you believe in your club and fight for it.
Anyway, good luck everyone. It's tough times for many, and nothing worse than feeling like the fall guy for other less deserving causes.
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| if we can't draw strength from other supporters that have gone the same experience as Chris Dalton have we will end up with nothing, I hope when I get back we haven't self destructed
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