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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"There’s a lot to be said for reliable. I’d like to
Know who this cap busting player who will turn them around is.
For me Warrington have flattered to deceive as has been shown with two recent defeats. A few injuries and they may regret losing a known quantity.
Also can they afford it? If they could they wouldn’t have to ship Atkins out, just a thought.'"
You would think that Warrington would to be close to the cap although not short of money. Therefore, IF they want to bring someone in then, they may have to ship someone the other way first, even if this meant somehow still paying for the outgoing player.
I never quite understood how this worked on the cap but, it seems that a club can "break the cap" as long as one or more of their players is no longer playing for them..
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You would think that Warrington would to be close to the cap although not short of money. Therefore, IF they want to bring someone in then, they may have to ship someone the other way first, even if this meant somehow still paying for the outgoing player.
I never quite understood how this worked on the cap but, it seems that a club can "break the cap" as long as one or more of their players is no longer playing for them..'"
I expect it's done by proxy - i.e a sponsor or some linked company making a donation to WT that by coincidence, exactly matches the salary for the incoming player; and as if by magic, Wire suddenly have room on the cap, and because we already did, we don't go over ours.
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| I thought Luther Burrell was cap exempt when he came in as he's a union transfer or is only part of the salary that counts? They must be on and around the limit so maybe have to ship a big name out to be compliant.
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| Always liked Ryan Atkins. Very good and honest player and came across as a really nice guy as well. With the amount and severity of injuries we have and still a lot of the season left to play he would be a great addition for us.
No idea if it will happen but i for one would be very happy to see him back in RWB.
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"Always liked Ryan Atkins. Very good and honest player and came across as a really nice guy as well. With the amount and severity of injuries we have and still a lot of the season left to play he would be a great addition for us.
No idea if it will happen but i for one would be very happy to see him back in RWB.'"
Agree with that, remember him giving up his time to hand out awards at a local sports club and enjoying the occasion. I think he also signed a long contract with us so that the club got some benefit from any move as well. For a short time him and Luke George (what happened to him?) were a pretty potent combination.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"Agree with that, remember him giving up his time to hand out awards at a local sports club and enjoying the occasion. I think he also signed a long contract with us so that the club got some benefit from any move as well. For a short time him and Luke George (what happened to him?) were a pretty potent combination.'"
Luke George got pretty capable just in time to go back to Shudds. We did manage to get the best Widow Ty performance out of him though before he left.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"Agree with that, remember him giving up his time to hand out awards at a local sports club and enjoying the occasion. I think he also signed a long contract with us so that the club got some benefit from any move as well. For a short time him and Luke George (what happened to him?) were a pretty potent combination.'"
Luke George moved to Australia and played for Northern Pride in Cairns when JD was coach. He worked as a personal trainer and last I'd seen he was playing for Central Queensland Capras in Rockhampton.
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| If you sign Atkins then you'll have to get some ball boys outside of the stadium to pick up his wayward try scoring passes that he sends over the roof
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| Interesting, wires post board have Ryan looking for a/at houses in yorkshire, has made no secret of retiring at the end of this season ! Short term playing time this season. They say he has been excellent except his brain farts & way wood passing.
Passing was never his best side of his play but he is a strong player !
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"If you sign Atkins then you'll have to get some ball boys outside of the stadium to pick up his wayward try scoring passes that he sends over the roof
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Not an issue as most of our centres are not great passers. In fact Bill and Reece rarely do, only Arundel bothers. I know you’re having a bit of fun but most of our wingers tries come from kicks and cut out balls.
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"If you sign Atkins then you'll have to get some ball boys outside of the stadium to pick up his wayward try scoring passes that he sends over the roof
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It's a strange one that because when he played for us that was the last thing on his mind, passing to his winger.
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| One thing is for certain - if he signs for us, a significant number of Wire fans will immediately brand him as rubbish; it's a RL phenomenon, that when a player changes jerseys, he loses all of his skills and attributes and we are glad to see the back of them.
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| Don’t agree with this. He’s been a good servant to Wolves and other clubs and the game as a whole. Might be a small section but your statement suggests most supporters are eager to bag players leaving. If he was doing the dirty and leaving to a club where while he was still at his peak you may have had a point.
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| Quote ="supercat"Don’t agree with this. He’s been a good servant to Wolves and other clubs and the game as a whole. Might be a small section but your statement suggests most supporters are eager to bag players leaving. If he was doing the dirty and leaving to a club where while he was still at his peak you may have had a point.'"
Not sure that's what Bren meant
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| If he does re-sign with us, I wonder if he will get a better unveiling than the first time he signed all that time ago - when Steve Ferres introduced him in front of what was basically an angry mob after another loss
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Not sure that's what Bren meant
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| Quote ="supercat"Ok enlighten me on this?'"
It's not for me to second guess Bren but what I think he means is on these forums rather than in general. Just looked on the Wolves forum and to be fair they are not exactly slagging him off but there does seem to be an opinion that he's passed it and needs getting rid off.
Personally I see that as our gain their loss of the Brough signing is anything to go on.
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| Think some Warrington fans have believed him to be passed his best but can't imagine any but the most cretinous not wishing him well. He's given them some great service over 10 years.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Not sure that's what Bren meant
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I think it was.
It's some kind of medieval defence mechanism. "he was rubbish anyway" etc, etc. Just as so many Shudds fans said about Brough.
Mind you, there were a few on here that doubted him too.
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| Dont know if just a coincedence, or whether he's injured, but isnt in Warringtons 19 man squad for Sundays game
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I think it was.
It's some kind of medieval defence mechanism. "he was rubbish anyway" etc, etc. Just as so many Shudds fans said about Brough.
Mind you, there were a few on here that doubted him too.'"
Yes I know and agree with that bit, I meant he wasn't meaning every fan. Wished I hadn't got involved now, call me a taxi
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Yes I know and agree with that bit, I meant he wasn't meaning every fan. Wished I hadn't got involved now, call me a taxi
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If TJ eventually moves on, I guarantee you that someone will post on his new team's page that he's a turnstile in defence.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Absolutely - I was just making a whimsical reference to the fact that as RL fans, we do have a habit of defending players to the hilt when they play for our team, then instantly rubbishing them when they move on; it's ever been thus.
If TJ eventually moves on, I guarantee you that someone will post on his new team's page that he's a turnstile in defence.'"
I love the fact that you used the word 'whimsical'
It just makes me feel happier. No reason. Just does.
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