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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Apparently his agent approached Castleford without his permission but yes has resigned with us. Lets just hope we don't have a paper thin squad as when injuries come around we will suffer.
If we got rid of Vince Mellars as some people according say that would be a huge chunk of dosh saved. If Ali does retire then I guess we'll save money too. Apart from a couple of signings (Addy etc) I doubt there will be much change in the squad.'"
Personally don't think we need many changes, maybe just 2 or 3 better players to the staring 17. I know there's a bit of doom and gloom around again but we're not far off from being a consistent top 8 side.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Personally don't think we need many changes, maybe just 2 or 3 better players to the staring 17. I know there's a bit of doom and gloom around again but we're not far off from being a consistent top 8 side.'"
Agree another front rower to replace Wilkes, a halfback to slowly implent into team if we signs Sykes on another year deal.
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| I like Wilkes but as already said it'll come down to value 4 money. If we get Addy he can play loose and along with Tautai and Annakin gives competition there. Addy played well against us at the weekend. Let Washbrook go not up to it and does not offer enough at loose IMHO.
Surprised at Agar being so open about Cockayne playing dumb play end of first half. Think Cockayne will go to HKR not been the same player last 3 months for some reason after getting into England squad.
Molloy and Mellars to go please as well.Hoping Kay, Trout, Cowling and Walshaw play last 4 games and play really well. ![PRAY icon_razz.gifRAY:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_pray.gif)
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| One of the main reasons why Cockayne was on form was because Lyne was playing inside him and set him up for alot of trys. He then tore is pec and had came back and had zilch confidence but yesterday he played well and I hope he continues.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"One of the main reasons why Cockayne was on form was because Lyne was playing inside him and set him up for alot of trys. He then tore is pec and had came back and had zilch confidence but yesterday he played well and I hope he continues.'"
What about this theory. Cockayne wasn't rated by anyone and that's why he went to Fev. Cinderalla club Trinity
desperate for cheap players came along and gave him a chance.
However all other SL clubs still thought he was a joke and never gave him a second thought in their game preparation plans. However BC was in fact better than people realised and very soon caught out many teams.
Sky soon pick up and McNamara names him for England. Unfortunately for Ben rest of SL also start to take him seriously. Downside is that when teams finally plan for his threats and weaknesses he no longer looks the player
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| Quote ="jack in the box"What about this theory. Cockayne wasn't rated by anyone and that's why he went to Fev. Cinderalla club Trinity
desperate for cheap players came along and gave him a chance.
However all other SL clubs still thought he was a joke and never gave him a second thought in their game preparation plans. However BC was in fact better than people realised and very soon caught out many teams.
Sky soon pick up and McNamara names him for England. Unfortunately for Ben rest of SL also start to take him seriously. Downside is that when teams finally plan for his threats and weaknesses he no longer looks the player
he once was.'"
Yes but when Smith plays inside him he dropped almost instantly.
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| Sorry just looked at highlights again in disbelief at Fox. I know gains lots of yards but his defence is woeful and appeared targeted by Bradford, I'm going to be controversial but I think we need to let him go end of this season if possible. Agar should have taken Fox off and put Cowling on the wing with Mariano at centre took wrong player off and more tries down that wing came for the Bulls.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Agar should have taken Fox off and put Cowling on the wing with Mariano at centre took wrong player off and more tries down that wing came for the Bulls.'"
Danny Cowling was injured that's why he left the pitch. Did anyone else not notice him limping after the game?
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| Quote ="colinhaytack"Danny Cowling was injured that's why he left the pitch. Did anyone else not notice him limping after the game?'"
I thought he was taken off for shooting out of the line and missing a tackle thus them making a break.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"There is a big danger of us thinning out a thread bare squad and when injuries happen we won't be able to cope. Molloy will still be here, if you pay players off it counts against salary cap still. I'd assume we won't take up the extra year options on contracts or sell. Can't believe the club is back in this state IF its true.'"
I'm with you on this. In a year which two teams will go down it is a major risk and one that could cost us dearly. After a couple of season of hope we are going backwards again.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"I thought he was taken off for shooting out of the line and missing a tackle thus them making a break.'"
I think injury is the more likely reason. If Agar took everyone off who made an error defensively we'd have no back line.
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| Didn't someone say that there were potential investors willing to come in as long as a certain person leaves the club? I wonder who that could be.
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| @HDMsport: Mail Exclusive: #HullKR have made a cash offer to Wakefield for prop Kyle Amor as they continue their recruitment for 2014
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| Quote ="Frosties."@HDMsport: Mail Exclusive: #HullKR have made a cash offer to Wakefield for prop Kyle Amor as they continue their recruitment for 2014'"
I thought they were skint ?
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| Glover and Elston need to back up their promise of not being a selling club and send all enquirers away with a flea in their ears-especially Hull K R. I'm tired of seeing Chris Chester down at Belle Vue every home game. Does he pay to get in I wonder?? ![FRUSTRATED icon_frustrated.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_frustrated.gif)
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| From the license application I think the plan was to be spending up to the cap in year three. Obviously reality hasn't quite reflected the business plan. It's a risky time to be reducing spend with relegation returning next year. I expect Cas and Salford to improve on their respective positions so its going to be tight at the bottom end of SL.
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| Quote ="Trinity 61"Glover and Elston need to back up their promise of not being a selling club and send all enquirers away with a flea in their ears-especially Hull K R. I'm tired of seeing Chris Chester down at Belle Vue every home game. Does he pay to get in I wonder??
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To be fair to them we've done well to keep hold of a few of our players over the last few years but every club sells at sometime and if its a good offer that means the club can sort out our well documented bills and keep going then so be it. Until we're in at Newmarket or new investment comes in before that we are going to struggle to financially compete
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| Quote ="Trinity 61"Glover and Elston need to back up their promise of not being a selling club and send all enquirers away with a flea in their ears-especially Hull K R. I'm tired of seeing Chris Chester down at Belle Vue every home game. Does he pay to get in I wonder??
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Chris Chester is a Wakefield supporter to be fair. He has been coming down to BV for years.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY" Until we're in at Newmarket or new investment comes in before that we are going to struggle to financially compete'"
If we are a championship club I can't really see how being at Newmarket would be much help. I also know there are still funding issues in order to build a SL standard stadium. It would make life much easier for some people if Newmarket turned out to be just a small championship Stadium something like Dewsbury.
It would be extremely dangerous to weaken the squad next season and if the club got relegated it could take years to come back.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Didn't someone say that there were potential investors willing to come in as long as a certain person leaves the club? I wonder who that could be.'"
The guy who was chief executive the last time we didn't pay the bills and went into administartion you mean? The one in charge of the day to day that has presided over a company with a clean slate being on the brink of going pop once more after just two and a half years?
I'll cut Glover some slack, he doesn't run the club day to day and is not a rugby man. Although as chairman and businessman he should have been stronger he has put his trust in people who, quite frankly, are incompetant in the roles they are in. He needs to act NOW or it will be too late. The club needs a CEO who knows how to manage a business, someone with experience and the relevent qualifications. Alongside him needs to be an experienced general manger and director of rugby to run the club and advise Glover and needed. They have at least employed a firm of accountants so we now have someone who knows what a balance sheet is but more has to be done.
So will Glover remove his mate? We'll see if he has got the bottle but failure to act will result in failure of the club. We cannot continue down the path we are. It's still just about salvagable, but the clock is ticking towards the witching hour rapidly.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"From the license application I think the plan was to be spending up to the cap in year three. Obviously reality hasn't quite reflected the business plan. It's a risky time to be reducing spend with relegation returning next year. I expect Cas and Salford to improve on their respective positions so its going to be tight at the bottom end of SL.'"
Messing up the sums to the tune of a promised 3rd year licensing cap differential of £600,000 takes some doing.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"To be fair to them we've done well to keep hold of a few of our players over the last few years but every club sells at sometime and if its a good offer that means the club can sort out our well documented bills and keep going then so be it. Until we're in at Newmarket or new investment comes in before that we are going to struggle to financially compete'"
Newmarket is a fair way off yet and whilst it will improve things, it won't be the holy grail some people think. Remember we won't own it and as such won't gain all the benefits of its use. We have cut a good deal but it alone won't make us rich, we need other things to be put into place as well.
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| Whilst i like what cockayne brings to the team, winger is a relatively easy position to cover from within the squad, so if he has to be sold to balance the books then so be it. He would go with my thanks for his effort and commitment whilst at wakey where he has never given less than 100 percent.
Amor is a totally different issue. He is a key player for us in a position that it is not easy to recruit and especially not someone of his age and quality. He must be kept regardless of any offer made, otherwise people will lose faith in where the club is heading, especially if we're selling one of our better players at the same time as asking the relatively new fans to pay more for their ST.
If Wilkes is going then that should save a decent sum . I would also let wash brook go as other than his tackling he doesn't offer much else.
I may be in the minority here but I would then hope Ali calls it quits at the end of this season as that would save us another significant sum and for the time he spends on the pitch and how he has performed this season (where he hasn't been as effective)' he is a luxury we can no longer afford.
Finally, I do think its time for a change of chief Exec as there have been too many mistakes made under JE tenure which have seen us get into this latest situation . on the eve of the most important season in recent times, we look like we will have to reduce the numbers in our squad or the quality or both. If this allowed fresh investment into the club then that would be a much welcome bonus on top of the club being run more efficiently.
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| Can anyone point me in the direction of said investors? Because there may be people talking a good game about investing but no one has actually contacted the board about any serious investment? So in the meantime the existing board will keep propping up the club. Like a lot of clubs in super league there is an underlying loss in which one or a number of individuals fund. I will name hull kr as an appropriate example to ourselves. Moving to Newmarket will give us half a chance of not only covering that loss but also allowing us to make a profit tht can be invested into the team. Unfortunately belle vue doesn't allow us to maximise our revenue on both match and non match days. So until then it's a fine balance between what the board can and can't afford to put in to the club ( or throw away on the club whichever way you look at it).
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Can anyone point me in the direction of said investors? [uBecause there may be people talking a good game [/uabout investing but no one has actually contacted the board about any serious investment? So in the meantime the existing board will keep propping up the club. Like a lot of clubs in super league there is an underlying loss in which one or a number of individuals fund. I will name hull kr as an appropriate example to ourselves. Moving to Newmarket will give us half a chance of not only covering that loss but also allowing us to make a profit tht can be invested into the team. Unfortunately belle vue doesn't allow us to maximise our revenue on both match and non match days. So until then it's a fine balance between what the board can and can't afford to put in to the club ( or throw away on the club whichever way you look at it).'"
Some at this club have been doing this for years tbf.
Newmarket won't change that at all imo.
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