We're talking about Paul Aiton, the guy who captained Papua New Guinea in the 2010 Four Nations here. Which Aiton are you on about?

Then I will take it back then. On the proviso that it is accepted that my 88 year old gran would have a shot at playing for Papua New Guinea. Granted, captain might be beyond though.

He's just a ill informed, mis-guided troll looking for a bite.

Unfortunately he is right about Amor though, certainly no where near good enough to compete with Griffin, Moore or Bailey for a front row spot.
I now hoping he's not Mrs Smith and that in fact he's Brian McDermott

I'm a ST holder a Leeds and he has been terrible this year, it could only be disciplinary reason as to why he has was selected ahead of BJB quite often this season!! He could have been a truly brilliant player had he not moved to union but has only had 1 good game since he came back and that was he second debut against Bradford when he scored twice in a drawn game!!

Havnt seen much of wakey this year but judging by Mathers performance against Leeds this season and think Smith will be better than him, just. I have nagging feeling he could thrive at a with all due respect lesser club. He can be a really good player if he sorts himself out, but at the moment he is a below average SL player!!

Just a minor point, before you get so defensive you curl up in a furry little ball. Where have I talked about Amor not been good enough to compete with those players?

I simply said Smith is a better quality player than you have. One of your posters brought up Amor, and I still never critisised him. I just pointed out that by his logic of Smith been released by Leeds, then did not the same happen with Amor.

Yet my statement still stands even with you added,your logic trying to justify that Smith is "way above" in terms of quality of [uany[/uplayer we currently have is wide of the mark.Smith is a competent utility back,but to suggest he is "way above the quality" than say Paul Aiton is quite frankly absurd.

You dont have a clue what you are talking about, have you ever seen Aiton play? The guy is quality and i would`nt be suprised to see a couple of top clubs showing interest in him.

Lets not kid ourselves.

He has been all those things in the past, but in the last 2 seasons at best he's been average. The reason he has found himself in the reserves is because he hasn't performed good enough and BJB, Hardaker, and Watkins have all overtaken him.

The ball is in his court. This is a good opportunity for him, and if he takes it and regains some form he might have a future at Leeds. If not, I think McDermott will have finally lost patience with him, he put his confidence in him at the start of the year and for a period in the middle by playing him ahead of BJB, but put simply, Smith was awfull.

He had an offer on the table from Cronulla, And if you go by what the aussies were saying on the NRL board many of them belive he was up to scratch to play NRL rugby. The guy captains his country - Lee smith can`t get into a mid league superleague side? Based on that you dont have a clue what you are talking about. Your argument makes no sense what so ever anyway

Better than Aiton, Smith, Ali (remember him) and a few more - give your thick head a shake. However he is a very good player and still fairly young.

Gotcha obviously hasnt seen enough of Aiton and must have forgotten all about the Legend that is Big Ali .

If true , could be a shrewd signing.

Its true, see the Website

Is this the kind of toilet that makes you a celeb on the Leeds board, or are you just as unpopular there after 10,000 posts as you've made yourself here, in just one afternoon?

My personal observation is that Lee Smith is lacking fitness and appears to have a poor attitude; I guess being loaned to lowly Wakefield will either make or break him - it's certainly within his gift to be a great player, but he has some work to do - I hope he does it.

Nice to hear from the level headed Rhino's fans.

Why do you lot keep comparing forwards to backs. Are you really that limited in knowledge of the game?

For what it's worth once again you are using an example to try and make a point which completely contradicts your main point.

On the one hand we have Lee Smith allegedly not good enough for you, and not as good as other players you have. The argument been that he can't get in the Leeds team and Leeds have released him.

On the other hand we now have two players mentioned as better quality, Amor and now Ali, who coincidentally were deemed not good enough by Leeds and were released.

Which one is it?

Sorrt Mrs Smith, but you said that he was better than ALL of our current players and yet he is apparently not good enough to fill in accross any of the Rhinos back line.
I still maintain that you shoul be happy with your front row.
FWIW Smith is ok, but he is not at presnt a stand out player or, even the Mighty, Mighty, Rhinos, would not allow him out on loan.
This has been done to give the lad some first team rugby, nothing more.
We're glad to take him but, you do seem to over-rate your player and you were a little short on factual back up about Aiton.

If you wish to argue with your fellow Leeds fans please return back to your own board.

my thoughts too



it would only beneficial if we had something to aim for in winning

Think Aiton scored in the England v PNG game and they nearly upset the odds against in this game containing several Leeds stars at the time. Score was 32-22 so PNG not as bad as you think.

As far as Smith goes he has been woeful on all but 1 occassion since he has returned from RU. He has put on too much bulk? since RU which has made him slow. McD has given him far more opportunities to prove himslef than McShane so cannot complain. If he decides to leave 1 pie in Greggs he might make a good player.
I would do a swap happily, your Smith for ours.

I bet you would

Er, Aiton is a PNG international. But now your lack of knowledge has been exposed you now choose to say something along the lines of, "it's only PNG". The only country in the world that has Rugby League as it's national sport. The guy can't help where he was born. He plays for and captains his country an achievement that is acknowledged in any sport.

A couple of months ago you would have had a deal!

Dean Collis & Peter Fox are both significantly better than Lee Smith. And based on this season dare i say it our entire backline are in better form than him (Mather except)! But he'll do a job covering injuries and as previously said Smith has potential, he showed it before moving to Union.