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| Quote ="Belle Vue"Agree
I too wouldn’t want us starting the season with one recognised hooker.
While Kay has done a great job plugging gaps , you need hookers that can tackle hard, scoot from dummy half and most importantly give good ball distribution..
A good example of this was Josh woods 3 passes before trinity’s first try on Friday. The last pass especially had distance and accuracy .. FCs defence unraveled from it and senior got in in the corner.
I think Kay will get a contract anyway because he is now able to cover two positions.. but for me he’s not a natural hooker (yet)'"
No such thing as a natural hooker, it’s a learned skill that suits players of a certain build.
I heard all this when Royce Lyne was never going to be a centre, well the experts on here got that one wrong. I get the point to a degree but the fact is if Kay isn’t a natural hooker he’s doing a better impression of being one than some who supposedly are.
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| We are, unlike any other club paying for a former coach whose contract was coming to an end. It is not necessary to say this is another negative post about the club because it is I do not deny it. We admit that money will be tighter than usual next season so wasting some of what we have on a sacked coach is just folly. I guess it was forgotten we are a business and the survival of the company trumps any friendships.
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| It’s Josh Wood btw.
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| Quote ="Willzay"It’s Josh Wood btw.'"
That's my fault.
I always refer to the Woods plural and didn't correct my spell check for Josh singular.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Some people forget how specialised the hooker postion is yes kay may be ok at running now and again but its also about speed and timing of passing decision making and tackeling if you look at your best hookers roby,mcshane,clark ,c smith ,cook and so on ate all nautraul hookers yes kay has done well over last few weeks and not knocking him but still not as good as wood who seems likley to be playing in championship next season. And its said he was a hb so should be able to cover hooker but he as never really played professional rugby at hb just junior doesnt that say something.reckon hood will play big mins too.'"
Agree with all that
Wood while being an absolute defensive machine isn’t confident running a game
I think hood will be a real game changer for us
Hood and wood will be a good combo though
Kaye covering for those two work ok for me
Kaye starting
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We are, unlike any other club paying for a former coach whose contract was coming to an end. It is not necessary to say this is another negative post about the club because it is I do not deny it. We admit that money will be tighter than usual next season so wasting some of what we have on a sacked coach is just folly. I guess it was forgotten we are a business and the survival of the company trumps any friendships.'"
Thing is, that’s just not true.
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| Quote ="Jose"Thing is, that’s just not true.'"
That means nothing on here.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We are, unlike any other club paying for a former coach whose contract was coming to an end. It is not necessary to say this is another negative post about the club because it is I do not deny it. We admit that money will be tighter than usual next season so wasting some of what we have on a sacked coach is just folly. I guess it was forgotten we are a business and the survival of the company trumps any friendships.'"
Jose is right.
You should try to get the facts right before posting things like that.
I'm sure there is something else you can find to be negative about that has a smidgen of truth to it somewhere.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Jose is right.
You should try to get the facts right before posting things like that.
I'm sure there is something else you can find to be negative about that has a smidgen of truth to it somewhere.'"
He doesn’t know the facts, none of us do but he speaks with total authority, makes you laugh.
I wouldn’t mind but MC has proved himself nobodies fool over and over so I seriously doubt that his heart is ruling his head. The CC deal will be the correct one whatever it is.
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| Which bit is wrong are we paying him or not and what would be a bigger benefit to the business for example using the money to resign Hampshire or for Chester to sits at home. I am not an expert on employment law but I would question how valid it is for us to honour a verbal contract. It is one of MC’s standard statements that nothing is certain until the contract is signed.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Which bit is wrong are we paying him or not and what would be a bigger benefit to the business for example using the money to resign Hampshire or for Chester to sits at home. I am not an expert on employment law but I would question how valid it is for us to honour a verbal contract. It is one of MC’s standard statements that nothing is certain until the contract is signed.'"
You don’t know the reasoning behind it that’s the point!
There will be a very good reason for it or are you suggesting NC is incompetent or corrupt? Come on spill the beans.
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| He also doesn't know if it's Wakefield Trinity that's paying him or MC, which both are perfectly possible based on MC's statement.
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| Quote ="financialtimes"He also doesn't know if it's Wakefield Trinity that's paying him or MC, which both are perfectly possible based on MC's statement.
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Correct, I know nothing about the situation and why should I, it’s between MC and CC. I’m assuming MC is still the majority shareholder, in which case he is the club and can do as he sees fit.
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| When he announced his departure I don’t remember him saying I will and do you actually believe anyone would fund it from their own pocket I don’t know the actual details but I do know that he is being paid and I would rather that money being used to strengthen the squad.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"When he announced his departure I don’t remember him saying I will and do you actually believe anyone would fund it from their own pocket I don’t know the actual details but I do know that he is being paid and I would rather that money being used to strengthen the squad.'"
You have no idea do you, it’s just any excuse for a pop.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We are, unlike any other club paying for a former coach whose contract was coming to an end. It is not necessary to say this is another negative post about the club because it is I do not deny it. We admit that money will be tighter than usual next season so wasting some of what we have on a sacked coach is just folly. I guess it was forgotten we are a business and the survival of the company trumps any friendships.'"
Why don't you put your cue on the rack your quest is dull. In the real world of contracts it was a verbal agreement for an extension it wasn't signed the club parted ways and a severance made do you need anything any clearer. Langi was different as he hadn't worked for the club before the verbal contract was agreed hence a nominal agreement. Now instead of looking for a negative on everything either support the club or take the negativity elsewhere it's getting tedious.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Which bit is wrong are we paying him or not and what would be a bigger benefit to the business for example using the money to resign Hampshire or for Chester to sits at home. I am not an expert on employment law but I would question how valid it is for us to honour a verbal contract. It is one of MC’s standard statements that nothing is certain until the contract is signed.'"
Because the exact quote was that he would ‘honour the terms of the contract’. However lazy journalists didn’t report that. I take that to say that an appropriate notice period would be paid, and whilst CC still had at least 2 months to run on his existing contract, any expense over and above that would be minimal.
Still, doesn’t fit your rhetoric does it?
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| You really are a bunch of sycophants, just accept it is an unnecessary drain on already reduced income. I wonder how many of you would be on here if we had done the same for Webster for example.
We are constantly being reminded of our much reduced revenue only to then waste more on a questionable payment. I would accept severance because that would only cover the period up to the end of his signed contract not for another 12 months.
I note that Jose this is your view which is similarly based on no hard facts when it could be read to mean his as yet unsigned contract but that doesn’t fit your rhetoric does it.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"icon_surprised.gifops: You really are a bunch of sycophants, just accept it is an unnecessary drain on already reduced income. I wonder how many of you would be on here if we had done the same for Webster for example.
We are constantly being reminded of our much reduced revenue only to then waste more on a questionable payment. I would accept severance because that would only cover the period up to the end of his signed contract not for another 12 months.
I note that Jose this is your view which is similarly based on no hard facts when it could be read to mean his as yet unsigned contract but that doesn’t fit your rhetoric does it.'"
Everybody has been trying to gently tell you you are wrong and just leave it alone.
As you have said, you don't know the terms agreed, or how much it was, or where the money came from.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"icon_surprised.gifops: You really are a bunch of sycophants, just accept it is an unnecessary drain on already reduced income. I wonder how many of you would be on here if we had done the same for Webster for example.
We are constantly being reminded of our much reduced revenue only to then waste more on a questionable payment. I would accept severance because that would only cover the period up to the end of his signed contract not for another 12 months.
I note that Jose this is your view which is similarly based on no hard facts when it could be read to mean his as yet unsigned contract but that doesn’t fit your rhetoric does it.'"
Yep, I’m miles off
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"When he announced his departure I don’t remember him saying I will and do you actually believe anyone would fund it from their own pocket I don’t know the actual details but I do know that he is being paid and I would rather that money being used to strengthen the squad.'"
Again completely wrong. CC is no longer ‘being paid’
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| Quote ="Jose"Again completely wrong. CC is no longer ‘being paid’'"
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| There are no company cars. They are provided by a 3rd party and the club have no involvement in them
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| Quote ="Jose"There are no company cars. They are provided by a 3rd party and the club have no involvement in them'"
Semantics Michael, semantics.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Semantics Michael, semantics.'"
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