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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Max has had a number of good games for us this year. He has one sub par performance and the knives are out saying he’s not good enough. Really poor form imo.'"
Dont see when he played that well myself everyone says leigh but he cist cost us 12 loints in that....i do feel sorry for him tonight not nice when yout coach blames you gor defeat
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| We do seem to be hopeless at falling on loose balls for quite some time. It's generally knock on or back to the opposition.
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| He was poor tonight and made 3/4 really costly errors, but give him a break he's the least of our worries. He's been ok this season and I hope he's here for the years to come. Our problems run a lot deeper than him.
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| His one on one tackles are poor
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| It was a bad mistake which ultimately cost us but I still would have max at starting fb
How many errors like that has he made?
Hardly any
I don’t get the need to bring a fb in
Prop and a hooker far more important
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| He had a shocker
Out of position for first try
Out of position for forty twenty
Kick out on full
Gifted them try second half
But sure he will make up for it. Unfortunately we don’t have a squad good enough to drop him
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| I am pretty sure the OP is trolling with thread. Shake your head.
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| Quote ="Schunter"He was poor tonight and made 3/4 really costly errors, but give him a break he's the least of our worries. He's been ok this season and I hope he's here for the years to come. Our problems run a lot deeper than him.'" 100% correct he had a mare but it happens, ther were some pretty awful performances and some guys really stood up to be counted.
3 things cost us the game mistakes, appalling last tackle sets and poor discipline. The former just happen but the latter is just a recurrent and perennial problem.
Ashurst stripped twice, max didn’t kill ball, kicked out on the full possibly should have done better on turners try, Lino generally non existent, Johnson never got a pass. Can’t fault the effort and thought we were a bit unlucky with some of the 50/50 s but once again another self. Inflicted defeat.
Tupo who was one of our most dangerous players looks like he’s had a season ending knee cap injury
Pretty much gutted
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| To be fair on Lino we went left and he was on the right. We attacked towards a bright sun in the sky. I had my hand up most of the first half trying to block it out. It must have been even worse for the players. 4 times we butchered the attack that way but didn’t learn our lesson and hit the right instead. Cas knew this and most of their attack was right. As much as Miller played ok I think he stifled our attack and cuts Lino out too much at times
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| Quote ="Luppylad"For anyone who says he deserves a new contract dont know rugby most overated player in our squad'"
Well, we must be watching a different player.
He made a critical error last night but, to bag him as you have done here, s bloody ridiculous.
You clearly haven't seen his defensive efforts or try assists this season.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonlyisback"100% correct he had a mare but it happens, ther were some pretty awful performances and some guys really stood up to be counted.
3 things cost us the game mistakes, appalling last tackle sets and poor discipline. The former just happen but the latter is just a recurrent and perennial problem.
Ashurst stripped twice, max didn’t kill ball, kicked out on the full possibly should have done better on turners try, Lino generally non existent, Johnson never got a pass. Can’t fault the effort and thought we were a bit unlucky with some of the 50/50 s but once again another self. Inflicted defeat.
Tupo who was one of our most dangerous players looks like he’s had a season ending knee cap injury
Pretty much gutted'"
This sums up our night perfectly, plus, a woeful kicking game.
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| Think to single max out over his mistakes Is IMO a bit unfair after watching that inept performance from the majority of the team .Millar went ok ,kelepi ran well,kershaw is improving ,Lino was awol,Westerman was well looked after ,big dave pushed a few people on the floor but also lost the ball whilst doing it on a few occasions, Tom might as well have stopped at home. To say we bulled it up as a derby game , pre season friendly best describes that performance .
3 coaches masterminded that performance last night and it all started from when we got our first set of 6 after a Cas mistake at the very start and made a right hash of our first attack,and that theme followed on throughout the game .we’ve seen what they can do when up for the fight ,unfortunately that’s not very often in these recent times
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| I think the improvements Max has shown over the last year think he deserves his place only a couple of games ago he was linking our attack crucially. He had a mare last night but that can happen.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Well, we must be watching a different player.
He made a critical error last night but, to bag him as you have done here, s bloody ridiculous.
You clearly haven't seen his defensive efforts or try assists this season.
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Rubbish his one on one with Jordan turner was pathetic he’s got to go downstairs
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Rubbish his one on one with Jordan turner was pathetic he’s got to go downstairs'"
Wouldn’t have been in that position if the men in front of him didn’t let Mata’utia dance along in front of them.
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Rubbish his one on one with Jordan turner was pathetic he’s got to go downstairs'"
He went high on a bigger man and got flattened, I can see what he was trying to do, effectively using gravity to pull Turner down, it didn't work out and perhaps would've been better to go low, his effort did impact Turner enough for the supporting defenders to have a chance if holding the attacker up.
I'll say it again, whilst the defence was soft for all the tries conceded, its our attack that cost us the game. 12 points would never have been enough to beat Cas.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Quote ="cosmicat"Rubbish his one on one with Jordan turner was pathetic he’s got to go downstairs'"
He went high on a bigger man and got flattened, I can see what he was trying to do, effectively using gravity to pull Turner down, it didn't work out and perhaps would've been better to go low, his effort did impact Turner enough for the supporting defenders to have a chance if holding the attacker up.
I'll say it again, whilst the defence was soft for all the tries conceded, its our attack that cost us the game. 12 points would never have been enough to beat Cas.'"
If Max has gone low wouldn’t Turner have just flopped over for a try wouldnt he? The only option was to go high and wrap the ball but Turner always had the advantage charging forwards. And Max couldn’t get enough on him though almost delayed him enough.
The damage was done when Matauitia ran through the middle of our forwards for a clean break.
Matautia was the difference last night.
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| How come it's pick on M J week .ok he had a bad match, but overall he as had a good season .Lino had a poor match last night so is he no good at scrum half . There was no reason for Kershaw to come of is wing for Cas second try just let's pick on some one .Face the facts, Cas are a good side ,well coach They did not get a overlap all night, some thing Wires could not stop in the cup .We did do some things well but as a TEAM we got some things wrong .To start blaming one player is out of order ,we lost by SIX NOT SIXTY
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| INOUT Quote ="Trojan Horse"If Max has gone low wouldn’t Turner have just flopped over for a try wouldnt he?'"
Every chance that would be the result, but we'll never know. I'm certainly not criticising him for it, he made the decision he did in a split second, had he pulled it off it would've been a great try saving tackle. Again not the reason we lost.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"If Max has gone low wouldn’t Turner have just flopped over for a try wouldnt he? The only option was to go high and wrap the ball but Turner always had the advantage charging forwards. And Max couldn’t get enough on him though almost delayed him enough.
The damage was done when Matauitia ran through the middle of our forwards for a clean break.
Matautia was the difference last night.'"
I’d add mcshane and Richardson as being the difference also but led from the front by mata’utia, and obviously Cas wanting the game more than we did .
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Quote ="Trojan Horse"If Max has gone low wouldn’t Turner have just flopped over for a try wouldnt he? The only option was to go high and wrap the ball but Turner always had the advantage charging forwards. And Max couldn’t get enough on him though almost delayed him enough.
The damage was done when Matauitia ran through the middle of our forwards for a clean break.
Matautia was the difference last night.'"
I’d add mcshane and Richardson as being the difference also but led from the front by mata’utia, and obviously Cas wanting the game more than we did .'"
McShane saved Castlefords bacon last few minutes. Lino threw one of the best inside balls I’ve seen in a long time to Pitts after drawing 2/3 players lateral to open it up. But for McShane busying a gut to knock it dead we would have been level with not long remaining.
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| Max had a shocker for sure but when on song, he's so important to our attacking line.
Our problem is our pack........a good 5 or 6 years together and it's beginning to take it's toll on the body.
We really do need a quality hooker & some fresh forwards (and not second rowers!)
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"Max had a shocker for sure but when on song, he's so important to our attacking line.
Our problem is our pack........a good 5 or 6 years together and it's beginning to take it's toll on the body.
We really do need a quality hooker & some fresh forwards (and not second rowers!)'"
Despite getting beaten by Cas (again), there was very little in the game last night.
Ultimately, we made more mistakes than they did and backed many of those errors up with penalties/resets.
Yes, we are awful on last tackle plays and there is more structure in a sandcastle than our attack in the opposition 20 but, it was the number of mistakes in possession that cost us the game. Ball strips, desperate offloads, crossing etc, etc.
How much possession did we gift to Cas and how many times did we make a balls up with ball in hand and it was still a 6 point game.
Defensively, we're not too far off but, with ball in hand, there is a lot of improving to do (understatement).
Also if we cant challenge for an attacking kick, we may as well go for touch and set our defensive line.
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| I see all the perfect people are back slagging off and bagging players, its a team game you win and lose together individual mistakes contribute but do not cost the game last night.
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| Nobody will be a harsher critic than Max himself I’m sure. Yes he did some poor stuff but genuinely I’ve never seen him have an off game, he’s consistently a very good player for us. Jowitt as a player is the least of our problems in terms of quality.
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