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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Regarding the stats it’s a bit of a worry if Hall is injured how we will line up in the centres.
Hopefully Hall and Batch line back up in the centres vs Wigan but if that’s not an option then considering Lyne and Tupou are still missing we may need to look at the loan market.
Next year losing Tupou, Croft and Minns (potentially) would leave us very skinny at centre so we really need to be looking at options for 2023 there. Can’t see much in the way of quality available.
Josh Simm probably sticks out as a viable option probably in a similar vein to Hall signing.'"
Two great young centres coming the through the Academy. I assume we may go NRL for a centre also.
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| Croft was supposed to be a great young coming through the Academy a few years ago .Hope they are a lot better and faster
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| Quote ="alegend"Croft was supposed to be a great young Centre coming through the Academy a few years ago .Hope they are a lot better and faster'"
Don't think it's fair to totally write Croft off. I tend to agree with PB that he's more championship than SL but he's way better than Sundays efforts.
He has also come back from a bad injury and was partnered (I think) with easily the worst winger we have had in years.
Lineham, Gaskell and Minns on the other hand have no excuses.
Sadly next Sundays sees us playing possibly one of the most lethal combination in SL, so if Croft plays he'll need the best game of his life.
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| Quote ="vastman"Don't think it's fair to totally write Croft off. I tend to agree with PB that he's more championship than SL but he's way better than Sundays efforts.
He has also come back from a bad injury and was partnered (I think) with easily the worst winger we have had in years.
Lineham, Gaskell and Minns on the other hand have no excuses.
Sadly next Sundays sees us playing possibly one of the most lethal combination in SL, so if Croft plays he'll need the best game of his life.'"
I did not go to Salford but i would have no problem if he played again. Last time I saw him play was in the reserves when tupou made his brief return to action. He looked a better player than tupou that evening and he went well. To me its his lack of pace and general sharpness that is his weak point. However he is a big strong kid with a good attitude. I am no expert but I would have thought his future may be more of a second rower.
However if Minns, Lineham and Gaskill play and we havnt anyone else better right now then the club must be in a mess
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I did not go to Salford but i would have no problem if he played again. Last time I saw him play was in the reserves when tupou made his brief return to action. He looked a better player than tupou that evening and he went well. To me its his lack of pace and general sharpness that is his weak point. However he is a big strong kid with a good attitude. I am no expert but I would have thought his future may be more of a second rower.
However if Minns, Lineham and Gaskill play and we havnt anyone else better right now then the club must be in a mess'"
Minns is a disaster, Lineham is an unfunny joke.
Gaskell I feel sorry for, I really believe he wants to do well but no longer can, however that doesn't help us.
I can't bring myself to watch most games we lose, life is to short. But I think we all know that when a team gets destroyed on the flanks the problem is not just with the backs. Others are clearly not pulling their weight, and I know some won't like this but I think Lino is a big offender. I also suspect that Miller had one of his poorer games and this also added to the problems.
I say this because the stats suggest the forwards generally did their work in defence.
I may be wrong but I base this on games I've seen, even in the games we've won we have always looked vulnerable on the flanks.
Finally those thinking Jowitt will save the day are likely to be dissapointed. As an attacking FB and under the high ball Jowitt is first class, but his defence, especially near the line remain very weak IMHO.
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| Quote ="vastman"Minns is a disaster, Lineham is an unfunny joke.
Gaskell I feel sorry for, I really believe he wants to do well but no longer can, however that doesn't help us.
I can't bring myself to watch most games we lose, life is to short. But I think we all know that when a team gets destroyed on the flanks the problem is not just with the backs. Others are clearly not pulling their weight, and I know some won't like this but I think Lino is a big offender. I also suspect that Miller had one of his poorer games and this also added to the problems.
I say this because the stats suggest the forwards generally did their work in defence.
I may be wrong but I base this on games I've seen, even in the games we've won we have always looked vulnerable on the flanks.
Finally those thinking Jowitt will save the day are likely to be dissapointed. As an attacking FB and under the high ball Jowitt is first class, but his defence, especially near the line remain very weak IMHO.'"
I like how you rip into minns, lineham, and gaskill but totally ignore battye stats or this just another off day chalked up
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| Quote ="snowie"I like how you rip into minns, lineham, and gaskill but totally ignore battye stats or this just another off day chalked up'"
I like how you bring up your scapegoat but don't back it up. PT didn't post Battye's stats so I don't know, do you.
Of course you don't your just gobbing it as ever.
So toddle off and find them and if they back you up then that's great, you win
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Quote ="vastman"I like how you bring up your scapegoat but don't back it up. PT didn't post Battye's stats so I don't know, do you.
Of course you don't your just gobbing it as ever.
So toddle off and find them and if they back you up then that's great, you win
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Look them up yourself (edited PT......consider this a warning Snowie. Don't do that again)
https://www.superleague.co.uk
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Quote ="vastman"I like how you bring up your scapegoat but don't back it up. PT didn't post Battye's stats so I don't know, do you.
Of course you don't your just gobbing it as ever.
So toddle off and find them and if they back you up then that's great, you win
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Look them up yourself (edited PT......consider this a warning Snowie. Don't do that again)
https://www.superleague.co.uk
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Do what PT post evidence that battye is not super league standard as quoted by the resident know it all
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"SL1x10 and SL2x10 for year after next is an open secret'"
SL 2 would just be the Championship rebranded, it’s 1995 all over again with the team in 11th being relegated to a lower division despite not finishing bottom.
Terrible idea and horrible for the sport in general, it’s fuelled by the greed of the top clubs who want to keep more of the reduced SKY money for themselves while casting the lower divisions adrift
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| Quote ="snowie"Do what PT post evidence that battye is not super league standard as quoted by the resident know it all
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Use of offensive language.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Use of offensive language.'"
It’s a shame you don’t apply the same standards to Vastman who said without any justification of course that I was a “Gobshxxe” or is this considered acceptable.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s a shame you don’t apply the same standards to Vastman who said without any justification of course that I was a “Gobshxxe” or is this considered acceptable.'"
Certainly factual.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s a shame you don’t apply the same standards to Vastman who said without any justification of course that I was a “Gobshxxe” or is this considered acceptable.'"
I can't remember that but if you can PM me with the link the same applies.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I can't remember that but if you can PM me with the link the same applies.'"
Topic - Salford
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To be honest I really don’t care, I am just satisfied that once again he was shown to be incorrect which he finds hard to accept. The fact he had to resort to this type of language rather than his usual insults means he may finally realise he is not all knowledgeable and it is beginning to rile him but just cannot accept it.
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| Quote ="snowie"https://www.rlfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=639380&start=150
now take them rose tinted glasses off
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You are obviously more adept with the use of the forum, I could only show where to find it.
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| Quote ="vastman"No mate I honestly haven’t seen or heard anything concrete.
Im more following smoke signals.
To me there is simply no panic in the air.
Trinity are concentrating on building a SL standard stadium and running a SL academy. Why would you bother if you were not fairly sure of things. We seem to have been incredibly tight this season even for us.
Ditto you lot. Cas always chuck in some flash signings both pre and mid season. Not much this year.
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Finally despite the games new direction not a peep from any SL directors, nothing.
If you were not reasonably happy with what the future holds I don’t think that would be the case.
I haven’t had contact with MC for a while but I’ve had a fair bit with JM and he seems incredibly up beat. Considering they are bothe accountants and thus optimism is contrary to their nature. It’s all very odd
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Yes very strange that, usually McManus and Lenaghan would have been airing their views at every opportunity.
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| Quote ="snowie"Do what PT post evidence that battye is not super league standard as quoted by the resident know it all
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Do you actually read what’s posted.
I never said his stats were good I said OT hadn’t posted them so I couldn’t comment.
He’s not great but he’s not the problem and you know it, you just need a victim.
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now take them rose tinted glasses off
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A couple of weeks ago you’d have agreed with my comment. Now you’ve painted yourself into such a corner the pimp is now your greatest fan. Bit tragic don’t you think?
Be careful the company you keep would be my advise.
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| Quote ="vastman"A couple of weeks ago you’d have agreed with my comment. Now you’ve painted yourself into such a corner the pimp is now your greatest fan. Bit tragic don’t you think?
Be careful the company you keep would be my advise.'"
What you mean is that their is the Vastman way or no way. I guess you do not understand when members have a common interest and in this case it is fairness and to make sure you are held to the same standards as the rest.
I very much doubt he would ever call me a friend but in this case and probably only this the common denominator is you and your eagerness to insult when confronted.
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| Seeing that this thread is about stats we need to be mindful when we play Pies that the points difference with Toulouse is now down to 30 points.
Although there is talk to the contrary,PD may well play a big part at the end of the season.Apologies if someone has already pointed this out.
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| I think ultimately we just need to go into every game with intent to win. No resting players and we fight for every point.
How many times over the years have we lost to teams at the bottom to then go onto winning a game against a team in the top half.
Points difference is a factor we do need to think about but you cannot pick and choose your games. We should be aiming to turn Wigan over at home and if we do we will need to worry far less about Toulouse or any points difference seperati g us from them.
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I can't believe what I've just seen i've been saying this for years & you've tried to be clever saying I don't know what I'm talking about & now you come out with this I've been saying this for years but some fans think he's a god He has no defence at all never has. I may not be that clever but I've seen what's happening with him & it makes my blood boil. Same with TJ I said made of paper & all you said was pathetic sometimes you don't know your from your elbow
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