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| I see this alleged deal being around until roughly a month after franchises have been awarded. Then AMAZED NOT it will disappear from whence it came - the master illusionist himself.
Never in this world is that site worth 50 million even with a supermarket - the cost of road works alone makes it a non starter - why build one there for heavens sake. Who is this Supermarket, I have been told two it allegedly isn't (though I can't claim it to be gospel) - Morrisons and Asda - must be a Waitrose!
How do we know, we have done it ourselves enough time, that's how.
Before the Cas fans come on taking the moral high ground claiming their glorious club wouldn't do that, give your heads a shake.
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| Quote ="vastman"I see this alleged deal being around until roughly a month after franchises have been awarded. Then AMAZED NOT it will disappear from whence it came - the master illusionist himself.'"
Got proof about that? or are you making a false claim Cas & a second company are making false claims to fool the RFL?
Quote ="vastman"Never in this world is that site worth 50 million even with a supermarket - the cost of road works alone makes it a non starter - why build one there for heavens sake. Who is this Supermarket, I have been told two it allegedly isn't (though I can't claim it to be gospel) - Morrisons and Asda - must be a Waitrose!'"
Tesco, Sainsburys...
Why build one there? because it isn't that far from the town centre, it's a big bit of land that's available for them and there's an even bigger plot just down the road - Nestle, which they also want. This is probably where the final £50m comes from.
Quote ="vastman"How do we know, we have done it ourselves enough time, that's how.'"
Yeah but Ted Richardson isn't Richard Wright is he? Oh wait...no...the global recession was his fault and it was arranged to just to delay the stadium being built
Quote ="vastman"Before the Cas fans come on taking the moral high ground claiming their glorious club wouldn't do that, give your heads a shake.'"
They wouldn't, because it's illegal, and if you want to make them claims then send them to the club, I'm sure they'll be happy to take your money in court.
Oh and I think you need yours testing, nevermind giving it a shake.
FYI - Opus have already begun discussions with the council about the development.
Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Can you imagine the headline in the Wakefield Express if something similar had happened to us?'"
They'll have probably reported in the same way as Vasty just got his knickers in a twist about Cas - full of false claims and bitterness.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Got proof about that? or are you making a false claim Cas & a second company are making false claims to fool the RFL?
Tesco, Sainsburys...
Why build one there? because it isn't that far from the town centre, it's a big bit of land that's available for them and there's an even bigger plot just down the road - Nestle, which they also want. This is probably where the final £50m comes from.
Yeah but Ted Richardson isn't Richard Wright is he? Oh wait...no...the global recession was his fault and it was arranged to just to delay the stadium being built
They wouldn't, because it's illegal, and if you want to make them claims then send them to the club, I'm sure they'll be happy to take your money in court.
Oh and I think you need yours testing, nevermind giving it a shake.
FYI - Opus have already begun discussions with the council about the development.
They'll have probably reported in the same way as Vasty just got his knickers in a twist about Cas - full of false claims and bitterness.'"
Gasbag old boy I don't have to prove anything, mine was a suggestion it's you and Wrighty who are making big claim. This is something you both have a long history of doing and time and time again being found wanting. Last year it was houses - millions of them, this years it's the worlds most expensive Supermarket, next year a wind farm to cure global warming (something you can contribute too).
I simply don't believe a word of it, I'm not bitter I'm just not that gullible. As said before, when the diggers are there and all that I'll believe it and I'll say well done, but there not there are they and you have been promising that for years have you not.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"[uTesco, Sainsburys...[/u
Why build one there? because it isn't that far from the town centre, it's a big bit of land that's available for them and there's an even bigger plot just down the road - Nestle, which they also want. This is probably where the final £50m comes from.'"
Give your head a shake, even Lidl would not move to Cas. I have it on good authority that its Poundland with a new sooper dooper state of the art emporium, and that they are after aquiring Nestles as well to build the warehousing to service the store.
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| The only factual information i can gather from that press release, is that the proposed development of a stadium at Glasshoughton has been moved backed, the sale of WR to Ben Bailey has fallen through and that GH's actual development is dependent upon Opus Land (who haven't yet bought WR) gaining approval from the council.
Seems to have managed a positive spin on what is in actual fact bad news for Castleford and further set backs with WR's sale up in the air
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| If all this goes through with the time these things take i'd be amazed if its ready for the 2013 season. More likely the year after.
Also if its correct that Ben Bailey Homes have been paid off by cas from the retainer they had on the ground, why wouldn't they just proceed with the sale and then sell on the land themselves at a tidy profit? If the supermarket development was such a sure fire thing then that would have been the most sensible thing to do surely? Think theres a bit to run on this one yet. Good PR again though.
What rabbit are we pulling out of the hat to counter it?
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| The BB deal didn't fall through they wanted to offer us less money than our ground was worth, we would have been stupid to sell at a reduced rate simply to satisfy license application - you don't give your biggest assetts away for a song and you guys should no all about that.
RW has stated who he is working with so its not just a throw away statement otherwise the other parties would come out denying any involvement.
If you want to look at people bringing out statements that are spin trying to curry favour the RFL maybe you need to look a little closer to home with statements like sharing newmarket with Cas something that we have not entered discussions about.
Not trying to have a go but we can all pick holes in things and none of us are privy to the business dealings of CTRLFC or WTWRLFC. I suggest you guys concentrate on your ground and we concentrate on ours
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| Even lazier and muddled journalism on BBC ceefax, the RL headline is 'Castleford sell ground for £50m'.
Don't you just luv 'em!
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| Quote ="Theboyem"If all this goes through with the time these things take i'd be amazed if its ready for the 2013 season. More likely the year after.
Also if its correct that [uBen Bailey Homes have been paid off by cas from the retainer they had on the ground, why wouldn't they just proceed with the sale and then sell on the land themselves at a tidy profit? If the supermarket development was such a sure fire thing then that would have been the most sensible thing to do surely?[/u Think theres a bit to run on this one yet. Good PR again though.
What rabbit are we pulling out of the hat to counter it?'"
Pay 6 for it and sell it for 50, maybe they did not think eh.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"The only factual information i can gather from that press release, is that the proposed development of a stadium at Glasshoughton has been moved backed, the sale of WR to Ben Bailey has fallen through and that GH's actual development is dependent upon Opus Land (who haven't yet bought WR) gaining approval from the council.
Seems to have managed a positive spin on what is in actual fact bad news for Castleford and further set backs with WR's sale up in the air'"
I don't know abour Opus, supermarkets etc. I do know that Castleford terminated the Ben Bailey agreement some weeks ago, and that the land would be worth a lot more to a specialised supermarket developer. That is 100% fact. Ben Baileys did not walk away, they were told to go away. This is from one deflated BB employee. He said he couldn't blame them as it was good business for Castleford, but it was a blow.
Why waste time on them anyway. Good luck in fact. We have to concentrate getting our own house in order, which i now have more faith in.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Pay 6 for it and sell it for 50, maybe they did not think eh.'"
WR is not worth 50million and will not sell for 50million.
Nobody has said it is, or it will.
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| i have it on very good authority that they have discovered oil on wheldon road
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Pay 6 for it and sell it for 50, maybe they did not think eh.'"
viewforum.php?f=16
Try this board for a Cas related thread.
=#FF0000AUP 2,2 Take a week off to read it.
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| It's gibberish and it won't happen in time for even the next round of franchises.
Just a point of having to create suitable road access would take years to resolve with CPO's etc. All developments of this size automatically get called in as well. This is definitely on par with a Richardson rant.
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| Quote ="The Trip"=#FF0000It's gibberish and it won't happen in time for even the next round of franchises.
Just a point of having to create suitable road access would take years to resolve with CPO's etc. =#FF0000All developments of this size automatically get called in as well. This is definitely on par with a Richardson rant.'"
Do you not yet realise that the whole deveopment (Including the link roads) has Planning Permission and cannot not be "called in"?
Full Panning Permission will be granted if/when it goes to committee on the 7th.
A link road as required would be built well within the time it takes to build a stadium.
As regards any CPO's who knows?
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| Quote ="bigalf"Do you not yet realise that the whole deveopment (Including the link roads) has Planning Permission and cannot not be "called in"?
Full Panning Permission will be granted if/when it goes to committee on the 7th.
A link road as required would be built well within the time it takes to build a stadium.
As regards any CPO's who knows?'"
I actually think he was referring to WR
But to defend slightly "all developments of this size get called in" its a supermarket and car park ffs get called in your having a giraffe.
As for the rest Who nos some hope its all spin some hope its gospel, I find myself in the incredible situation of agreeing with vasty "Ill believe both sites when the diggers move in"
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| All major shopping developments do. I'm also a Everton ST holder and exactly the same happened with our proposed development with Tesco in Kirby. That got knocked back.
So I will reiterate you are being fed a line and so is the RFL.
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"i have it on very good authority that they have discovered oil on wheldon road'"
I did drive past the other day and my car does have a small leak so that would explain them finding oil on Wheldon Road.
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| Plenty of pot oils
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| An RFL spokesman confirmed that Castleford will be judged on their current facilities if their new stadium is not ready for the start of next season.
"A new stadium or re-development of an existing stadium will only be taken into account if the work is completed by the start of the 2102 season," he said.
It's going to be very interesting this one, both us and cas have told tall tales in the past and got away with it, this time we no longer have jackanory (ted) and have a straight talking CEO while Cas still have tricky dicky at the helm with as he say's nothing sign'd.
The cas fan's instantly demoted us when NM was called in! Now a delay not going to be an issue!
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| Quote ="The Trip"All major shopping developments do. I'm also a Everton ST holder and exactly the same happened with our proposed development with Tesco in Kirby. That got knocked back.
So I will reiterate you are being fed a line and so is the RFL.'"
But that was always a very contentious plan wasn't it with a lot of local people objecting. Now who exactly will object at WR? There is no-one!
You may want to compare to the Wigan and Warrington developments, did they get called in?
If, and its still an if, this goes ahead, the funds for Glasshoughton will be available pretty quickly i'd suggest
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| Quote ="bigalf"WR is not worth 50million and will not sell for 50million.
Nobody has said it is, or it will.'"
Der, yes i do understand that
I understand "how its been said" if that helps.
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| Quote ="binks"I actually think he was referring to WR
But to defend slightly "all developments of this size get called in" its a supermarket and car park ffs get called in your having a giraffe.
As for the rest Who nos some hope its all spin some hope its gospel, I find myself in the incredible situation of agreeing with vasty "Ill believe both sites when the diggers move in"'"
Ok I may have misread, but any development at WR will not be called in (especially after yesterday). NM was called in automatically because it is on Greenbelt. You could hardly say that about WR!
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| Which supermarket, I wonder? Morrisons already have plans for Cas I think, Asda have a new store at GH. I suspect both these firms will fight tooth and nail to delay any competitors getting their snout in the trough, using fair means or..not quite so fair (I'm not risking being sued by them!) Cue the lawyers!
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Well I never there's a Circus at the Jungle with Richard Wright staring as a Juggler
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Well I never there's a Circus at the Jungle with Richard Wright staring as a Juggler
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