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| Quote ="meast"i agree vastman, my club included.
but how many other clubs are having to release statements because of crowd trouble at their games?'"
Have you ever thought that maybe we are one of the only clubs that are proactive in trying to deal with these incidents?
I know for a fact that multiple emails have been sent to the Salford club from the smoke bomb thrown and Pints of beer thrown at Jacob Miller - Have you seen a statement from Salford ? I haven't.
Why? Because unless there is any sort of legal obligation to do so then no action is mandatory, We seem to have a club that cares about sorting these things out and getting to the route of the problem rather than ignoring complaints like a lot of clubs do.
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| Quote ="meast"there is no segregation at Leeds, Castleford, Hull kr, Catalans, Bradford, Warrington, where home and away fans freely mix, yet i'm pretty sure that the same away fans who turn up drunk and giddy at wakefield also go to these grounds?
but yet somehow it's needed at wakefield because the away fans can't behave themselves?
surely that says everything?'"
If you bought a ticket from your club shop for any of the above mentioned clubs, only Bradford and Castleford would allow you to go anywhere in the ground, the rest of them would allow you access only to the part of the ground your ticket permits, therefore your story that they can mix freely is a myth and makes them segregated, perhaps if you and more of your faithful visited these away grounds more often you might realise this HTH
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Meast is all over facebook as well as here, desperate for us to be docked points or fined.
His agenda is plain for all to see. Rather pathetic really.'"
I bet his bedroom has a sticky carpet. It must be what you become when you follow a plastic club so unimportant you don't even have any derbies.
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| Anyone would think Meast is a closet Wakey fan the amount of times he writes on here to show his concern for the club.
Does anyone know if there is any CCTV in the north stand? If not, maybe it's time to get some, and maybe some at the turnstiles as well. Of course that won't help now, but in the future.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Anyone would think Meast is a closet Wakey fan the amount of times he writes on here to show his concern for the club.
Does anyone know if there is any CCTV in the north stand? If not, maybe it's time to get some, and maybe some at the turnstiles as well. Of course that won't help now, but in the future.'"
Thought glover installed cctv don't know if it's working though. If it is it should be used to catch them who broke into the ground Fri night.
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| Some of the stewards have video recorder gadgets on their front. Would pee myself if they show Bradford's morons.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Meast is all over facebook as well as here, desperate for us to be docked points or fined.
His agenda is plain for all to see. Rather pathetic really.'"
When quite a few of us Wakefield fans had our cars vandalised at Huddersfield there was no condemnation of the giants fans that did it from the club or from meaty or his mates, probably to hide their embarrassment, but this is somebody else's dirty washing so in his eyes it's acceptable to make his mouth and cause as much mischief as he can.
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| Does any one know the nature of the complaint or just what went on. I have seen loads of incidents at away grounds over the years and never heard anything after.
RIVAL FANS are always likely to get involved in banter, verbal abuse, or worse.
Goading can often lead to problems and I have seen plenty at our ground from opposition supporters, they love to have a dig about our facilities , financial problems , and our right to be in S L. I don't have a problem with giving it back and would always stand my corner. Get over it and stop taking the moral high ground about a subject that goes on at every R F L club.
I would have welcomed a statement about our future at B V more than the one we got
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| An amateurish response from the club that - something akin to getting out of your car after a ding and saying "Sorry - totally my fault!"
If the club has received complaints but no investigation has yet taken place, the statement should be, "We've been notified of some concerns by visiting supporters which we are now looking into and, if proven to be true, we will take swift and robust action. We welcome visiting supporters at BV and take any complaints very seriously etc etc.."
As it stands, I would suggest that following a Facebook campaign to take over the North Stand, some Bradford fans came with their drum and trumpet, all full of mickey and wind, with an expectation that they would outplay us, outsing us, and go home with bragging rights; as things quickly unravelled for them, the back and forth chanting took on a different tone and a few who couldn't handle their disappointment have decided to manufacture some complaints as a parting shot. We should *not* be admitting any liability for that until it's been investigated - as I'm 100% certain that there were shots fired on both sides.
As for meast and his rabid whipping up of an imaginary problem at BV; it's all a bit pathetic really. Every single club in SL has a small selection of idiots - as does every single gathering of people at any event ever, anywhere in the country; whilst it's true that violence, dangerous behaviour or discriminatory language should be dealt with, it's also important to remember that being offended is a very subjective thing - if I complained every time I was offended by something, I'd be like meast - a rather pathetic and sorry figure, with nothing of any real substance to say, whom nobody takes seriously.
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| Quote ="bren2k"An amateurish response from the club that - something akin to getting out of your car after a ding and saying "Sorry - totally my fault!"
If the club has received complaints but no investigation has yet taken place, the statement should be, "We've been notified of some concerns by visiting supporters which we are now looking into and, if proven to be true, we will take swift and robust action. We welcome visiting supporters at BV and take any complaints very seriously etc etc.."
As it stands, I would suggest that following a Facebook campaign to take over the North Stand, some Bradford fans came with their drum and trumpet, all full of mickey and wind, with an expectation that they would outplay us, outsing us, and go home with bragging rights; as things quickly unravelled for them, the back and forth chanting took on a different tone and a few who couldn't handle their disappointment have decided to manufacture some complaints as a parting shot. We should *not* be admitting any liability for that until it's been investigated - as I'm 100% certain that there were shots fired on both sides.
As for meast and his rabid whipping up of an imaginary problem at BV; it's all a bit pathetic really. Every single club in SL has a small selection of idiots - as does every single gathering of people at any event ever, anywhere in the country; whilst it's true that violence, dangerous behaviour or discriminatory language should be dealt with, it's also important to remember that being offended is a very subjective thing - if I complained every time I was offended by something, I'd be like meast - a rather pathetic and sorry figure, with nothing of any real substance to say, whom nobody takes seriously.'"
Perfectly put. I ca't add anything to that.
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| If the Bradford fans think it was bad on Saturday why don't they watch Bradford City and try standing in the home section at Millwall!
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| Quote ="chissitt"If you bought a ticket from your club shop for any of the above mentioned clubs, only Bradford and Castleford would allow you to go anywhere in the ground, the rest of them would allow you access only to the part of the ground your ticket permits, therefore your story that they can mix freely is a myth and makes them segregated, perhaps if you and more of your faithful visited these away grounds more often you might realise this HTH'"
Think you're wrong regarding Cas Chissitt, as far as I'm aware the Wheldon road stand is Cas fans only, they have to buy a specific season ticket to stand in there.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Think you're wrong regarding Cas Chissitt, as far as I'm aware the Wheldon road stand is Cas fans only, they have to buy a specific season ticket to stand in there.'"
You might be right now I'm sure somebody will tell us, but I can remember going in there in the second half to see all the tries 3 or 4 years ago.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Think you're wrong regarding Cas Chissitt, as far as I'm aware the Wheldon road stand is Cas fans only, they have to buy a specific season ticket to stand in there.'"
No, they tried it for one season when Steve Ferres was in charge. With your season ticket you got a fob which you swiped at the WR turnstiles but it cost a fortune to install and run and wasn't exactly foolproof.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"You forgot to mention the flare throwing incedent at Wheldon Road this year Vasty.'"
Because it's not relevant, I'm not denying our idiots just pointing out that all the clubs he mentioned have them also.
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| Quote ="bren2k"An amateurish response from the club that - something akin to getting out of your car after a ding and saying "Sorry - totally my fault!"
If the club has received complaints but no investigation has yet taken place, the statement should be, "We've been notified of some concerns by visiting supporters which we are now looking into and, if proven to be true, we will take swift and robust action. We welcome visiting supporters at BV and take any complaints very seriously etc etc.."
As it stands, I would suggest that following a Facebook campaign to take over the North Stand, some Bradford fans came with their drum and trumpet, all full of mickey and wind, with an expectation that they would outplay us, outsing us, and go home with bragging rights; as things quickly unravelled for them, the back and forth chanting took on a different tone and a few who couldn't handle their disappointment have decided to manufacture some complaints as a parting shot. We should *not* be admitting any liability for that until it's been investigated - as I'm 100% certain that there were shots fired on both sides.
As for meast and his rabid whipping up of an imaginary problem at BV; it's all a bit pathetic really. Every single club in SL has a small selection of idiots - as does every single gathering of people at any event ever, anywhere in the country; whilst it's true that violence, dangerous behaviour or discriminatory language should be dealt with, it's also important to remember that being offended is a very subjective thing - if I complained every time I was offended by something, I'd be like meast - a rather pathetic and sorry figure, with nothing of any real substance to say, whom nobody takes seriously.'"
Well put sir.
This is what so frustrates me with Carter and his angry dad routine. He seems to be totally devoid of any ability to exude positivity. It's as if Willzay has become the CEO which I suspect even he doesn’t think is a good idea.
For heavens sake Carter stop treating the fans like they are a group of peasants whom you are obliged to let into your ground who you assume are always in the wrong.
Unlike my mate Jack in the box I don’t feel for the club on this one as so much of it is of their own making.
If Carter is that bothered why not stop the sale of alcohol at the ground or get our ever zealous stewards to stop stripping sober fans of coke bottle and stop clearly drunk fans entering the ground. Or does MC’s moral outrage stop at losing beer sales - sums it up to me.
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| From time immemorial away supporters would congregate on the northern terrace, some like to watch the game from behind the sticks, maybe because you can actually see what’s going on for the full eighty.
There has always been fracas as long as I can remember. But maybe now in our perfect world, it’s no longer acceptable, or the little spats have become much more menacing.
Whichever it is, the time has come to put the away fans on the western terrace, denying them the option of watching from behind the sticks whilst also preventing the home fans of watching the game where some have stood for fifty plus years.
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| Never saw any bother from where I was stood on the halfway line.
Sounds like a storm in a teacup mainly with a minority of d1cks on both sides.
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| I would have preferred a statement about B V if we are staying or going, or even an announcement regarding B Smith.
I have no idea why we have to jump in making statements without knowing the facts or even before we have gained information from an investigation.
Incidents happen at every ground every week end and almost all go without any further action or rushed in to statements from the club concerned.
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| Perhaps its because of previous moronic behavior fro some of our fans which has resulted in fines, suspended fines that the club need to be seen to be dealing with the issue in a very pro active way.
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| So thats the Wakey Express headlines for Friday.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"No, they tried it for one season when Steve Ferres was in charge. With your season ticket you got a fob which you swiped at the WR turnstiles but it cost a fortune to install and run and wasn't exactly foolproof.'"
Ok, fair enough, it's just that for a few years I've not noticed any amount of away fans in there.
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| If the club wants to find an enclosed area for away fans to stand then the area in front of the east stand is perfectly suited and should be designated the away fans area.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Ok, fair enough, it's just that for a few years I've not noticed any amount of away fans in there.'"
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Never saw any bother from where I was stood on the halfway line.
Sounds like a storm in a teacup mainly with a minority of d1cks on both sides.'"
I wasn't at the game,Bullseye,but I'll go with your post and I bet it's not far off
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