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| Don't personally think that's true and would say it was the other way round on here. Just about any news especially positive is taken with suspicion and with a I'll believe it when I see it attitude. Whereas news of doom is almost taken as true by some. All you have to do is look at this thread and the Newmarket one.
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| Quote ="Joe Banjo"Who told you?'"
Someone who is directly involved
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Don't personally think that's true and would say it was the other way round on here. Just about any news especially positive is taken with suspicion and with a I'll believe it when I see it attitude. Whereas news of doom is almost taken as true by some. All you have to do is look at this thread and the Newmarket one.'"
Fair do's shifty i suppose it'll seem different to everyone, i just see a section of posters who'll jump in to defend all the time, you must see just me then
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| I'll go on record and state i don't believe a word either AG or JE say, never have from day 1.
Now if it seems i have a dig all the time then i apologise to all decent Trin fans.
Maybe its time for me to go.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Fair do's shifty i suppose it'll seem different to everyone, i just see a section of posters who'll jump in to defend all the time, you must see just me then
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| Quote ="El Rey"I'll go on record and state i don't believe a word either AG or JE say, never have from day 1.
Now if it seems i have a dig all the time then i apologise to all decent Trin fans.
Maybe its time for me to go.'"
Why do say that, especially about Glover. What's he done from day 1 not to be believed.
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| Perhaps it's not all AG's fault. Perhpas JE sometimes neglects to tell AG about what needs paying. It's about time a new CEO was appointed, someone who can run the club a lot better.
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| Quote ="L.F.C CAT"Perhaps it's not all AG's fault. Perhpas JE sometimes neglects to tell AG about what needs paying. It's about time a new CEO was appointed, someone who can run the club a lot better.'"
Who hired the CEO and who has left him in post? AG has ultimate responsibility and should IMO have acted after the tax man fiasco but didn't
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Why do say that, especially about Glover. What's he done from day 1 not to be believed.'"
I spoke to him a couple of times and thats enough for me, he followed that up with the meeting to end all meetings, you may remember the Newmarket pictures/stuff well they were added at the last minute on advice from someone outside the paid staff, the advice was that if you pull this stunt on the 1873 alone you'll get strung up.
That meeting was aimed at taking money from the fans for 1873 and to this day i still can't seem to find out how its been spent, i wonder why that is and why its not been shouted from the rooftops after the shouting before the meeting.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Who hired the CEO and who has left him in post? AG has ultimate responsibility and should IMO have acted after the tax man fiasco but didn't'"
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Who hired the CEO and who has left him in post? AG has ultimate responsibility and should IMO have acted after the tax man fiasco but didn't'"
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| I've no idea whether any of em are any good at what they are doing and probably few people on here do either. I suspect a lot of the problems we may or may not have would be evident whoever was in charge, given that running a SL club without either big crowds or a sugar daddy is likely to be barely financially viable
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| Quote ="El Rey"I spoke to him a couple of times and thats enough for me, he followed that up with the meeting to end all meetings, you may remember the Newmarket pictures/stuff well they were added at the last minute on advice from someone outside the paid staff, the advice was that if you pull this stunt on the 1873 alone you'll get strung up.
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Too right!
I was there and like many I was expecting big things. I have since stopped following AG on Twitter for repeatedly making a mountain out of a mole hill, I just hope this thread is another example of fans doing the same thing.
Don't forget though that AG has done a lot of good for the club and without him we may not still be here.
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| Quote ="18th Man"Too right!
I was there and like many I was expecting big things. I have since stopped following AG on Twitter for repeatedly making a mountain out of a mole hill, I just hope this thread is another example of fans doing the same thing.
Don't forget though that AG has done a lot of good for the club and without him we may not still be here.'"
I'm very grateful that he has helped us. But why hasn't he learnt from previous mistakes?
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| Quote ="18th Man"Too right!
I was there and like many I was expecting big things. I have since stopped following AG on Twitter for repeatedly making a mountain out of a mole hill, I just hope this thread is another example of fans doing the same thing.
Don't forget though that AG has done a lot of good for the club and without him we may not still be here.'"
If we keep not paying the bills we might not have a club anyway
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"I'm very grateful that he has helped us. But why hasn't he learnt from previous mistakes?'"
Basic mistakes that shouldn't keep being repeated.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Basic mistakes that shouldn't keep being repeated.'"
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| I am not doubting what some people are saying on this thread but how come everything negative is always "fact" yet anything remotely positive is conjecture or complete nonsense. I get the distinct feeling that many people are waiting for the club to fall apart and disappear into the annals of history just so they can proudly proclaim I told you so.
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| Quick reality check!
A forum is a faceless environment in which unsubstantiated rumors are created and taken as gospel truth.
Until the club crumbles then i'll keep that salt pot on the table while reading through posts on this or any other board.
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| no way should you be talking of leaving el rey in my eyes you are the voice of honesty and moderation ,idont know what is the truth here, but i do know the leaders of the club dont take fans serious or some of the avoidable things they do would be avoided
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| Quote ="El Rey"I spoke to him a couple of times and thats enough for me, he followed that up with the meeting to end all meetings, you may remember the Newmarket pictures/stuff well they were added at the last minute on advice from someone outside the paid staff, the advice was that if you pull this stunt on the 1873 alone you'll get strung up.
That meeting was aimed at taking money from the fans for 1873 and to this day i still can't seem to find out how its been spent, i wonder why that is and why its not been shouted from the rooftops after the shouting before the meeting.'"
Basically you don't trust him because of the Cedar Court meeting, each to their own mate.
I haven't got a clue what goes on at the club just like most others and I won't even pretend to. But as far as Glover goes, he's got far more right imo than he's got wrong and how can't you respect a guy that took over the club, when we dead and buried. Stuck thousands of his own money and given a bit of stability to the club. Sure he's made mistakes but he was bound to having not owned a RL club before especially this one but I'm not going to hold that against him. Must be a bit of a nightmare running this club, juggling money, not enough fans, no multimillionaire owner, old ground, lost sponsorship etc.
Also if I was him I'd wonder why I'd bother tbh because there does seem to be a collection of fans and I'm not talking about you at all, mostly people on the terraces, that seem to have a circle jerk at every piece of bad news or rumor at the club.
Anyway we might not always agree but I do think you're a great poster.
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| I think we are all getting a little excited on this thread, we will soon be sharpening the knives. Things like this cannot remain hidden for very long so eventually the truth will out. However if I were Mr Glover I would be looking outside the world of rugby league for a new CEO because I have always thought that Elson is way out of his depth.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Basically you don't trust him because of the Cedar Court meeting, each to their own mate.
I haven't got a clue what goes on at the club just like most others and I won't even pretend to. But as far as Glover goes, he's got far more right imo than he's got wrong and how can't you respect a guy that took over the club, when we dead and buried. Stuck thousands of his own money and given a bit of stability to the club. Sure he's made mistakes but he was bound to having not owned a RL club before especially this one but I'm not going to hold that against him. Must be a bit of a nightmare running this club, juggling money, not enough fans, no multimillionaire owner, old ground, lost sponsorship etc.
Also if I was him I'd wonder why I'd bother tbh because there does seem to be a collection of fans and I'm not talking about you at all, mostly people on the terraces, that seem to have a circle jerk at every piece of bad news or rumor at the club.
Anyway we might not always agree but I do think you're a great poster.'"
Dont think that we dont know what goes on at our club, you would be shocked if you new half mate, trust me El Rey knows what he is on about
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| When D Longo reads this lot, and he will, god knows what AG will think if he tells him
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| Quote ="Stanley Cat"I think we are all getting a little excited on this thread, we will soon be sharpening the knives. Things like this cannot remain hidden for very long so eventually the truth will out. However if I were Mr Glover I would be looking outside the world of rugby league for a new CEO because I have always thought that Elson is way out of his depth.'"
I think the phrase is 'this'.
I can't knock JE's commitment but people have a level and from everything i hear, his is a level too high. We need fresh ideas and geniune business savvy in that that position and right now we lack that. Jimmy probably got a position a level too high 5-10 years before he should have. He maybe would have been best serving an apprenticeship under an experienced, successful, RL adiminstrator before he got the gig. Right now we seem to be paying the price.
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