Its interesting that we have to date 3 pages on RU. Ok most are rubbishing the game but like it or not its come on over the last few seasons and puts our game back in the dark ages when it comes to marketing. The game attracts all shapes and sizes and can be played at an excellent level at secondary schools up and down the country. RL become stagnant and will never reach level of recruitment that RU can achieve. I agree that yesterdays final fell well short of the England v NZ semi but SA played a well disciplined organised game and deserved the win.Lets be honest the finals all about winning in any team sport and SA played the game to win.
Arsenal used to win many a game 1 0 and the fans loved it, remember the chant 1 o to the Arsenal.
I would also like to add the the match day experience for corporate clients are easy to book and put RL days to shame. Internationals and the head to heads at Twickenham are superior to anything you will find in football.

They seem to promote their game better than we do. One small point in hand was yesterday’s “wooden spoon” game, On my planner on SKY this game was the “bronze final”.

There is no question about it.
Whether you like RU or not it is seen as a direct competitor to us for audience, sponsorship and players.
They beat us on all three.
Having the better game doesn't help if the management and marketing teams are non existant.

I feel sure that one of the reasons RL went to golden point was to accommodate the Americans who need to see a winner at the end of any sporting event.
Anyway getting back to RU im not a fan of the bonus point system but i do like the points system for a try, penalty , conversion

BBCs "key moments" highlights clip last 35 seconds and was simply the 2 South African tries on 65 and 73 minutes. Says it all.

It probably says more that the bbc dont tend to show much of any sport during news items they dont cover.

Three things I'd take from RU. The hype machine, the old school tie network and the administration. The game itself is dull, but its organisation blows RL away. It of course helps with the BBC fawning all over it, more so than any other sport (relatively).

[T:wmspnir4he game attracts all shapes and sizes and can be played at an excellent level at secondary schools up and down the country. RL become stagnant and will never reach level of recruitment that RU can achieve. I agree that yesterdays final fell well short of the England v NZ semi but SA played a well disciplined organised game and deserved the win.Lets be honest the finals all about winning in any team sport and SA played the game to win.


Proof of the old adage: "You can fool most of the people all of the time".

[:2u5uewrrquote="lampyboy"Its interesting that we have to date 3 pages on RU. Ok most are rubbishing the game but like it or not its come on over the last few seasons and puts our game back in the dark ages when it comes to marketing. The game attracts all shapes and sizes and can be played at an excellent level at secondary schools up and down the country. RL become stagnant and will never reach level of recruitment that RU can achieve. I agree that yesterdays final fell well short of the England v NZ semi but SA played a well disciplined organised game and deserved the win.Lets be honest the finals all about winning in any team sport and SA played the game to win.

Proof of the old adage: "You can fool most people all of the time"

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Lmao

...and all the others pseudonym's?

Come on guys don't engage with him. You'll only tempt him to come back.

It also helps the sport of rugby union not having a sport's governing body that is (allegedly) corrupt.

Our sport has a purportedly tarnished former Chief Exceutive (Nigel Wood) who left the RFl last year to take up a massively overpaid role as CEO of the global governing body for the sport of rugby league football, now known as International Rugby League (IRL).

The sport of rugby league in the UK needs a long overdue root and branch reform and proper direct investment into the grassroots game, The amateur RL game represents the life and blood of our sport and in certain age brackets is the source of our future talent. Despite being in receipt of annual multi-million pound grants from the likes of Sport England and Sky Try the amateur game has been gradually decimated over the past 10-15 years by the RFL. Amateur clubs are struggling financially, or going bust, whilst the RFL fat cats pay themselves hign salaries for doing naff all - Mr Barwick being a recent classic example.

Best of luck to Wakey next season.

To be fair JINJER Wales and New Zealand were far from wooden spoon candidates as they weren't by any means the bottom of the pile.

Being incompetent and being corrupt are two different things and you need to go careful.

Incompetence is a subjective opinion a lot of the time, thus the level of proof required to make that assertion is fairly minimal unless you're trying to prove it in a court of law. Most people will let being called incompetent go, mainly because it's not worth the effort to argue as the statement is now so devalued anyway.

Calling someone corrupt is wholly different and has to be proved or else its a slander of the highest order, so much so that the police even have an anti-corruption unit (they don't have an anti-incompetence unit).

I've heard this corruption claim for years but no action has ever occurred, so if you know what's gone on go to the police and ask for the anti-corruption unit and I'm sure they will help. So either put up or drop it would be my advice, this is, after all, a fans forum, what exactly do you expect us to do?

Thank you for your guidance.

The key adjective '[iallegedly[/i' was added to what we averred and with that caveat defamation is to all intents and purposes not an issue.

Anyhow, we have evidence and we are contact with the appropriate parties.

I watched about 20 minutes of the first half with one eye; as predicted, it was dull and lacked anything for the non-expert - far too technical and finickity about air over the ruck, bodies over/under the ball and who collapsed a scrum first. All the while, blatantly ignoring obvious knock-ons, and allowing advantage plays for 10 minutes at a time.

I've watched a few of the earlier rounds and arrived at the conclusion that the only time I enjoy the game is when it's played more like RL - Japan being a prime example; lacking the brute strength and size to do that whole ruck and maul thing, they lobbed it around and went to the edges - and as a result, were quite entertaining.

It's tilting at windmills really because it is and always will be a more popular game - and given that it has the whole establishment behind it, that will never change; but I simply cannot get excited by it as a spectacle.

Load of b****cks.

Well good for you, I wish you well but I still don't think a fans forum is the right place for these things, do you?

Allegedly....

Let me stop you there Nestegg.
Just throwing allegedly in does not do enough for me, especially when you are the only one I have seen allege it. Don't do it again.

Please don't derail the thread/forum with your campaign. Everyone knows where the Bradford forum is if we need to find you to discuss it further.

Really? A quick post of the "RFL" followed by "Corrupt" in google brings up plenty - Threads on RLFANS.com, articles from former players, I will point you to only recently a SL club chairman accusing the RFL of been bias to one club over another in the selection and performance of match officials.

Not my view at all tbh, but you cant say he is the only one you have seen allege it, I remember some of the posts on here when the head of refereeing walked down the tunnel at HT at Belle Vue in his Saints jacket....

That really helps me a lot thanks

None of those examples are on here. We can't have that conversation on here as, just as Fish explained, corruption is a serious accusation and although Nestegg talks a lot about evidence he doesn't actually share it.

So now it's a conversation I have to lock the thread.
You are welcome to discuss directly with Nestegg if you wish as long as it's not on here.