I concur with you FIL

People on this forum are so fickle it's untrue.
Makes me laugh reading all the vitriol as soon as we lose whatever the week.

Everbody breathe.....second game in, give them a chance.
Once again we are very much a cobbled together side. I truly hope none of the players/coaches go anywhere near this forum.

Also amuses me that everybody - well not everybody - thinks that they have more knowledge and expertise than these pro coaches and players.

Anybody got any jokes???

Oh and by the way FIL you are not the sort of person, especially considering your social standing, who should be using abbreviations like FFS.

I think you should BMA - behave more appropriately.

As I clearly stated my opinion is based over the last three years!

You may disagree with my opinion but at least do me the courtesy of reading the pigging post properly!

Completely agree with vasty but unfortunately it's not going to happen. It won't be long before more and more people come to the same conclusion and if that happens some pressure may be applied to the board, but I think Agar's position is fairly safe.

We are not the only team that has lost 2 games.

FOR CHRIST SAKE READ THE CHUFFING POST - I answered every one of your points as precisely and coherently as I could - what part of my post seems to baffle you? Let me know and I'll try to help you.

My question is simple!!!!!

Do you feel Agar is the man for the job - you've had a few seasons to work it out.

If not, do you think we should act now or await the inevitable when it will make no difference.

Finally how am I finding it easy to shoot bullets, short of reciting the Lords prayer how much more contrition could I show in my post!!

You really are a wally at times.

I think agars done ok and ok only. We have never had a great squad to pick from. our top 8 season was because of the point deduction that bradford received, last season was no better.
Wakey fans expect to be a top club in the top 8 or even making the 4. Get a grip its going to be a battle for wakey to stay in SL, and the sooner you come to terms with it the better.
For as long as i can remember wakey have always shot themselves in the foot season after season. If it aint been the sale of a top player its been a full clear out or money problems

Vastman - whoever you might be - I think you need to go and make some cheese sandwiches - and don't forget the pickle.

The stats show we've made the most metres so far....so it's not all bad?...Most errors though at 31. www.superleague.co.uk/stats/club_stats

The stats show we've made the most metres so far....so it's not all bad?...Most errors though at 31. www.superleague.co.uk/stats/club_stats

For Flips Sake (what did you think I put, Fergus ??), I did read your pigging post properly Vasty, but, whilst we all know that Agar has had 3 seasons to get it right, he must be as frustrated as the rest of us at constantly having to fight an uphill battle when it comes to losing/signing players.
The three "Aussies" haven't even been here a fortnight yet, and Sammut has only been here a week, with Siejka still to come (hopefully).........you can't put a brand new engine in a car and expect it to perform flat out straight away...it takes time to loosen up !!!

I am not happy with For Flips Sake either.

Go get im - I'm right behind you !!!!

For FILLIP'S sake...is that ok then, Sir ??

Seems some people think 1 win in 9 (soon to be 10) is ok. Well that's relegation form.

None of us think it's ok -KK, but I do not believe now is the right time to sack the coach. If it turns into 1 win in 14 or 15, then that might be a different matter !!

Agar has had to work on a tight budget new players in the squad to gel give him a chance.

Again

My opinion is based on the 2 previous seasons not just the two games this year.

I can see your point, but it does leave a couple of unanswered questions (one of which you do ask)
1) who would you replace him with
2) Who could we afford to replace him with.

IMO Agar has done an OK job with an OK team with limited resources, pretty much the same as Kear and better than other recent coaches.
One thing Agar does seem to have a good record on is spotting a good player who is off everyone else's radar, the only exception to this seems to be his love affair with Lynne (but I will allow him that due to his other findings) besides I have a feeling that Lynne is going to surprise a few this season as he already has a little for me.
I think for the last 2 seasons we have hit above our weight and this year we will probably finish about where we should be, which will be 12th or 13th. With the resources we have and the players we have, you cannot argue for much better, if we do manage a bit better then great, but my expectation isn't for much more.

I'm not sure that any coach could have done a great deal more with the resources and the background turmoil that Agar has had to deal with; in the midst of all that, he's brought some great players to the club and in fairness, some of his spots saved the club this time around - players he brought here were sold at huge profit to dig us out of a hole.

This squad looks better than last year and given the lack of coherent off-season and the fact that our pivots are strangers; I'm prepared to give it a few more games to see what they can actually do.

As for alternatives - Morrison is unproven as a coach; Kear is a dinosaur; Cullen has a proven track record of failure and even the much vaunted Peter Gentle, who we were fighting over last season and was going to change the face of British RL, was an abject failure in SL.

Meanwhile - Andy Kelly has just been appointed as Head of Youth development at Shudds (something of an oxymoron in the past!) - maybe he'll make a return to SL coaching one day?

In the meantime - I'm happy to see what Agar does with this squad; personally, I think he'll keep us up.

1 win in 7 with a far more settled squad (with arguably better players). Still relegation form. Ironically the 1 came after the poop hit the fan.

You can disagree with me all you wish, but when you clearly don't or can't read a post before you do it's frankly annoying.

Try reading it again, be the big lad not just his mate and admit you may have misread it (and I'm being kind) and say sorry.

I've had to do it myself in the past and it won't kill you, trust me.

Truly pathetic.

7 games that mean nothing now. This is this season and we have 25 rounds of SL to go. No matter how much people moan on here I doubt anything will change. Carter things Agar is a good coach and I agree - just get behind the lads.

Again from me..

... we all know what has happened over the 2 previous seasons...2 years ago we won the last 8 games (I believe ??) and last year we did the opposite....ups and downs (as is the norm with us !!), but I firmly believe we need to give the PLAYERS the opportunity to show Agar (and us) what they can do.
Believe me, I am as frustrated as you are, but we are all on board the Wildcats rollercoaster together, and now is not the time to throw the driver out !!

Don't get your Kear comments, he's no dinosaur and frankly still has more coaching ability in his left toe than most SL coaches. John Kears simply had enough and who can blame him.

As for the rest of your comments fair enough. However I used the word gut feeling, and my gut feeling says disaster this season if we don't act soon - and by that I don't mean it has to be Agars head, though I fail to see any other way.

To me this feels just like 2006 and I don't think the club could survive another one of those.