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| He's not cut out to play rugby league, he does not like mud and getting tackled.
He does have talent but i feel he's been a waste of time, don't blame the club for trying but its not worked out.
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| Quote ="WakeyManDan8"Good player, needs a decent half back partner, because he has had to do it all himself this year. We'll see the best of him when we get a decent stand off.'"
good assessment. Wakey should keep him. How long is his contract ?
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| On a 12 month contract and for what he has done so far wouldn't get a 13th.
Bye bye Mr Smith
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| I think Kyle Wood could be our main number 7 next year!
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| Quote ="Willzay"I think Kyle Wood could be our main number 7 next year!'"
Often thought he looks like an old fashioned SH but many see him as a hooker-not that there's a lot of difference nowadays!
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| A good friend of mine who knows quite a bit about RL summed him up quite simply... 'He plays like a girl'
His quote not mine.
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| I would say its difficult to judge how good he could be in this squad this season, at times he has looked clearly our best player then at others non existent.
If I were him though I would be sweating on next season because at this moment in time he may well not have a contract here.
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| Trouble is he cant do both halves jobs at the same time and thats what hes having to do while this world beating half from New Zealand learns the game.
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| Quote ="les-goose"Trouble is he cant do both halves jobs at the same time and thats what hes having to do while this world beating half from New Zealand learns the game.'"
Where has it ever been said he is world beating?
If he was he wouldn't have been playing reserve grade rugby and he certainly wouldn't have come to us!
A touch of realism please.
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| Poor in every department in my opinion. That said he is an ozzie so he continues to keep his place in the team despite showing absolutely nothing. Utterly dispondent about the complete shower that pull on the jersey and he is top of the list of underperformers.
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| The guy wouldn't get a look in at 10 of the Super League teams at least. That just shows what level we are at ATM. I dont think he can do any better than what he's shown already regardless of his half back partner. His kicking game is Pub team standard, not acceptable. GET RID A.S.A.P.
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| Quote ="Trinitythefuture"The guy wouldn't get a look in at 10 of the Super League teams at least. That just shows what level we are at ATM. I dont think he can do any better than what he's shown already regardless of his half back partner. His kicking game is Pub team standard, not acceptable. GET RID A.S.A.P.'"
And replace him with whom?
I accept that like you say he may not get a gig at ten other clubs, but out of the players that would, few of them on the back of the last few years, would have come to us.
A one year contract for him was exactly right, give him something to play for and give us some time to stabilise in the hope that if it didn't work out we were in a more promising position when recruitment came back around.
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| I think he has organised us well at 1st receiver and bossed it well from there. Needs help from 6 and i think Wildie could be the person to do this going forward. John has not done much to help Smith from stand off so far in the games he has played.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"And replace him with whom?
I accept that like you say he may not get a gig at ten other clubs, but out of the players that would, few of them on the back of the last few years, would have come to us.
A one year contract for him was exactly right, give him something to play for and give us some time to stabilise in the hope that if it didn't work out we were in a more promising position when recruitment came back around.'"
Give Wood/Wildie some proper game time instead of bit parts, don't get me wrong Smith shows flashes of good stuff in attack but the other parts of his game outweigh those moments. It's exactly why Wigan shipped him off back home, he's been given a second chance with us but not taken it at all.
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| His/Their job would be a lot easier if he was working behind a pack making more yards.
Tis about time to change things in halves though.
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| Why do some people on here need a scapegoat all the time? Look, the team isnt playing well, we have plenty of other players who aren't firing but hey, lets look for someone to cane. Face facts, smith is playing behind a beaten pack, cooper Cronk would struggle to shine. Get behind our team. If your chasing success go follow Wigan.
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| Cooper Cronk v Tim Smith hmmmmmm Come on. No-one expects instant success (certainly not me, I believe in 90% of this squad) but Tim Smith ? Computer says no.
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| Quote ="Trinitythefuture"Cooper Cronk v Tim Smith hmmmmmm Come on. No-one expects instant success (certainly not me, I believe in 90% of this squad) but Tim Smith ? Computer says no.'"
Lets face it he's right Cronk would struggle to shine behind our pack.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Lets face it he's right Cronk would struggle to shine behind our pack.'"
Danny Brough didnt seem to struggle behind a poor pack, infact he used to thrive on being the main man. Pace, skill, thinking outside the box. Smith couldn't lace Broughs boots never mind Cronk.
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| Quote ="Trinitythefuture"Danny Brough didnt seem to struggle behind a poor pack, infact he used to thrive on being the main man. Pace, skill, thinking outside the box. Smith couldn't lace Broughs boots never mind Cronk.'" mate. broughy wasn't playing at the back of a poor pack when he was at wakefield. smithy is quality player. there isn't any half backs in sl that would look any good playing behind a non existant front row.. i don't care who you put there. wakefields front row is probably the worst i have seen in the last ten years. the bench against saints was an out and out joke. when you have a quality hooker having to play prop against some of the biggest front rowers in the game there is definitely something radically wrong when johnson is playing in the 21's. its a joke
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| Quote ="frogcat"mate. broughy wasn't playing at the back of a poor pack when he was at wakefield. smithy is quality player. there isn't any half backs in sl that would look any good playing behind a non existant front row.. i don't care who you put there. wakefields front row is probably the worst i have seen in the last ten years. the bench against saints was an out and out joke. when you have a quality hooker having to play prop against some of the biggest front rowers in the game there is definitely something radically wrong when johnson is playing in the 21's. its a joke'"
Completely agree. Rugby is a game where if you have a dominant pack or an equal pack the game becomes easier for the backs. Smith has got it tough with a weak/inconsistent WTW pack. We allowed a 30 yr old genuine SL prop in Korkidas to leave and we did not replace him with anything better which was a mistake.
Aiton should be at 9 and the bench should have had 2 props Johnson & James on it the other day - a coaching mistake. .
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| its got to be said yet again at Wakefield the underperformers are all overseas Smith/John/Southern/Mellers and its being the case for years leave them at home or spend the same money on 2 and get more quality eg Alton
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"its got to be said yet again at Wakefield the underperformers are all overseas Smith/John/Southern/Mellers and its being the case for years leave them at home or spend the same money on 2 and get more quality eg Alton'"
Thats purely hindsight police though isnt it.
So who are you going to advise the quality we sign next season then and what happens if they dont live up to expectation. There is a lot to be said about people settling into a new culture the classic for me was pat Richards the first season he was all over the place since then he ripped it up. I am more interested in the longer trem and seeing some of these players putting it together.
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| Quote ="frogcat"mate. broughy wasn't playing at the back of a poor pack when he was at wakefield. smithy is quality player. there isn't any half backs in sl that would look any good playing behind a non existant front row.. i don't care who you put there. wakefields front row is probably the worst i have seen in the last ten years. the bench against saints was an out and out joke. when you have a quality hooker having to play prop against some of the biggest front rowers in the game there is definitely something radically wrong when johnson is playing in the 21's. its a joke'"
Ok Johnson is not an out and out front rower hes a second rower and for what my opinion is worth he is a shodow of last season perhaps thats becuase there are better plyers than him than last season at the club or he is off form.
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