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| Quote ="bren2k"What a coincidence that the Tory lot turned up for a picture on the pitch today - just before an election; politicians are nothing if not opportunist.'"
The Tory lot do seem to be doing the most re: the Stadium situation though.
MC stated he was open to any party to come down and talk, it seems only the Tory lot have done.
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| Quote ="vastman"Quote ="bren2k"What a coincidence that the Tory lot turned up for a picture on the pitch today - just before an election; politicians are nothing if not opportunist.'"
I'm sorry Bren I know your a leftie but who cares.
I'm a middle of the road Conservative but frankly I'd kiss Jeremy Corbyn on all four cheeks if it got us a stadium and I really don't like the mans policies - I do draw the line at Diane Abbott though
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Ah yes... Diane's accounting skills do leave you scratching your chin!!
To be fair to Bren though he does state politicians, which would imply Tories,labour and the lib dems who's leader reminds me of smeegle out of Lord of the rings ..
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| When you saw the abuse some Wakefield fans gave the Tories after that tweeted picture of them at Belle Vue you have to wonder if some Wakefield fans actually want a stadium? Ok we have spent decades waiting for a ground when there has only ever been one party in control of local politics. The opposition show an interest (although their real intentions are unclear) and they get shot down by a vocal few. Thin skinned politicians must think why do I bother.
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| A lot of love being shown for the Tories. The problem is that they are basing their entire election campaign on being economical with the truth or downright lies. Hang on to their words by all means and hold them to account but don't be too downhearted when they U turn.
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| Quote ="wildshot"When you saw the abuse some Wakefield fans gave the Tories after that tweeted picture of them at Belle Vue you have to wonder if some Wakefield fans actually want a stadium? Ok we have spent decades waiting for a ground when there has only ever been one party in control of local politics. The opposition show an interest (although their real intentions are unclear) and they get shot down by a vocal few. Thin skinned politicians must think why do I bother.'"
Exactly, there were some pretty disgusting comments.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Exactly, there were some pretty disgusting comments.'"
Not surprised, I want a stadium as much as the next Wakey fan but there are some things in life which are more important.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Not surprised, I want a stadium as much as the next Wakey fan but there are some things in life which are more important.'"
Which is fine and totally understandable but doesn't justify disgusting comments. IMO.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Which is fine and totally understandable but doesn't justify disgusting comments. IMO.'"
I assume you've completely missed the smears, sneers and outright lies that are directed at Corbyn by Tory politicians and their friends in the right wing media?
I don't agree with personal abuse - but this is opportunist electioneering and should be seen as such; they came because they know we're desperate - as are they, after Mrs May's disastrous campaign.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Not surprised, I want a stadium as much as the next Wakey fan but there are some things in life which are more important.'"
Working on the typically massive assumption that Labour supporters have got it right whilst all Tories are evil - never fails to amaze me.
I'd trust the Tories to build the country and our stadium any day over Labour tbh - and the Tories can be pretty crap most of the time - If Corbyn and his acolytes are anything like Blair and Brown - they will eventually have to adopt Tory policy anyway, dress it up and call it old new Labour then inevitably fail.
In the case of our Stadium if a Labour politician gets anywhere near it, it will probably end up half built, four times over budget, the wrong way around and unfit for purpose. Then they will get voted out AGAIN leave a note for the next Tory saying all the monies gone can you please fixe it again - ring a bell?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I assume you've completely missed the smears, sneers and outright lies that are directed at Corbyn by Tory politicians and their friends in the right wing media?
I don't agree with personal abuse - but this is opportunist electioneering and should be seen as such; they came because they know we're desperate - as are they, after Mrs May's disastrous campaign.'"
I'm not taking political sides at all, and some of the comments were aimed at MC and other 'everyday' people commenting. All rather unsavoury, simple as that.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I assume you've completely missed the smears, sneers and outright lies that are directed at Corbyn by Tory politicians and their friends in the right wing media?
I don't agree with personal abuse - but this is opportunist electioneering and should be seen as such; they came because they know we're desperate - as are they, after Mrs May's disastrous campaign.'"
Are you serious, have you seen Labour activists at work! come on there both as bad and though I suspect Corbyn is a genuine guy there are some really nasty pieces of work amongst some of his followers.
May is right about one thing, she does lead her party. Poor old Jeremy is just a stooge and once pandoras box is open you'll regret you ever voted Labour, assuming you are.
I wish there was an alternative to Mrs Strong and Stable leadership but there just isn't - quite scary really.
As for May's campaign I agree it's been poor but she'll still walk it with a 50+ majority. Why? because Corbyns has been worse and I'm really not sure who or what hat Lib Dem bloke is meant to be. Only Laura Kuenssberg and the luvvie BBC and Guardian actually believe this to be a disastrous campaign, however it goes to show that if you say it often enough and Laura Kuenssberg says it every five minute somebody will believe you
Anyway back to Rugby - we need cross party support end of.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I'm not taking political sides at all, and some of the comments were aimed at MC and other 'everyday' people commenting. All rather unsavoury, simple as that.'"
I'm afraid it's the way these days. Leftie Liberals are worse but the right aren't far behind. If you don't agree with them and because they assume totally that they are in the right they will just shout you down - very sad.
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| I'm hoping for movement on the new stadium as much as anyone else, and it's great that MC is inviting politicians down for talks and to show the state of affairs we are in with the ground. But the only thing I can see coming out of that is a nice PR friendly photo and article for the Tories, then we probably won't hear anything else about it from them.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"If you remember it was a Tory SoS who sent the agreement back with no clout behind it. I dont think for a second that Box and his cronies haven't been next to useless but the last 7 years has been under a Tory government.
Corbyn is a completely different animal to Blair/Brown's thatcherite economics, he's proposing a new way that basically ensures that those with the broadest shoulders pay their fair share and his main money maker is a corp tax cut reversal to 26% - less than it was in 2010 and still would be 2nd lowest in Europe. Still you can't blame Labour for the global economic crash which led to the deficit going through the roof, though the note was in poor taste.'"
Whilst other countries have stagnated since the crash GB has actually grown economically, how odd.
You're right about Corbyn he is a different animal - he's an idiot, perhaps a well meaning one but still an idiot. I was around in the seventies when his policies were last tried. total national bankrupcy, endless strikes, unburied dead and rat infested rubbish piled high in the streets. Worst still we had to go cap in hand to the IMF for money, something that is only usually done by countries like Sudan and Ethiopia. If you want that then I can assure you, vote Corbyn in and you'll get it.
Also makes me laugh about corporate tax, all our Tax rates are low that's the point.
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| I thought this was a stadium thread based on MC tweet
Bottom line is that we've had a Labour council in Wakefield for all of my life and it's been the intransigence of the Box administration that has utterly failed with the NM development.
There may be political will from different sides to try and force/shame Box into moving forward but, whichever party our local MP's happen to be from, after the election, the main obstacle will still be leading the local council.
There really is little point in political squabbling amongst Trinity fans.
Religion and politics are always nailed on to cause ill feeling.
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| As ex military, who served for 22 years, I cannot bring myself to vote for a guy who ever supported terrorists would not make the hard decisions if it ever came to the conflict, and blames soldiers sailors and airmen for their actions did in the the past for terrorist actions now. I will probably get shouted down for saying this, but it is my opinion, one that's very important to me. To bring back to the thread labour haven't done much to help us with the stadium, maybe the Tories will
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| It'll all be over in a few days and we can all go back to accepting our lot in life
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| Quote ="vastman"I'm afraid it's the way these days. Leftie Liberals are worse but the right aren't far behind. If you don't agree with them and because they assume totally that they are in the right they will just shout you down - very sad.'"
Hmm, I'm sure I recognise that MO from somewhere...
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| Im old enough to remember 3 day weeks brought about by unions andthe dust mans strike with rubish all over the place, i was bringing up a young family 3 day week was no good to me there seemed to be strikes every week and inflation touched the sky,i know this forum aint about politics but if mo corbyn,larry mcdonnel and curly abbott get in itl be back to those times quick time and some of the abuses might change their minds
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Hmm, I'm sure I recognise that MO from somewhere...
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Yeah shame he doesn't realise that himself!!
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| Quote ="try scorer"Im old enough to remember 3 day weeks brought about by unions andthe dust mans strike with rubish all over the place, i was bringing up a young family 3 day week was no good to me there seemed to be strikes every week and inflation touched the sky,i know this forum aint about politics but if mo corbyn,larry mcdonnel and curly abbott get in itl be back to those times quick time and some of the abuses might change their minds'"
Your joking right? With all the laws in place nowadays you have to give six months notice to strike for an hour...
If you think the workers had too many rights then, Well the balance has swung far too far the other way in 2017!!
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