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| Well we've more chance now we're not flogging all our best players thanks to mc and his team.it must be a nightmare keeping all the cherry pickers at bay.
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| There's also the fact that some of those that have done something special have also been relegated in the SL era.
There's a lot to be said for mid table obscurity.
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| I know what you mean Poptart,but sorry there is nothing much to be said for mid table obscurity.Better that than relegation obviously, but fans like to dream.I've been dreaming for a long long time and all I've got is a Yorks cup win.Crap ground aside, probably the biggest reason why Wakey fans would sooner spend their money in town on £2 pints than cheering on Trinity, is their perceived feeling that we never win anything, and never will.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Well done Salford a club that lets those who know their trade do their jobs and provides them with genuine backing not just empty talk.
Watson’s been outstanding for the last few years'"
Bit like our club then isn’t it!
Give it a break we get it you have an issue with the club but perhaps if we’d had some luck this year we’d have been that club!
Well done Salford but no need to beat ourselves up, really pointless thread imho.
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| Dont think the OP is slating their own team, so much as pointing out the fact, and is very valid.
Having said that, several of these who have been in a final have also been relegated, but not us, which given budgets etc, is a record we can boast about.
What I will say is that Salford are a perfect example of that if you all pull together, players,coaching, medical and conditioning staff, then you dont necessarily need a team full of stars to get to Old Traffford.
I would say Hastings is s big player, but hes not solely responsible, hes just stood up to the challenge, and turned up with his A game consistently.
Unfortunately, I cant say the same for our missing piece of the jigsaw, and Milky hasn't been at his best this year, which is why I've said in previous posts, that I believe we do need another half, but to tale over, not just back up, and if we pay a little more than what we had before, we have let two go.
We could get back up there if we have a lucky run with injuries,but it's not that alone why we struggle old this year.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"As i said a very good coach! This bloke is streets a head of anyone in super league.'"
Probably the daftest post you’ve ever made and you’ve had a few.
Let’s see how he does next year minus Hastings and others and a shed load of injuries.
Also let’s see a link to where you tipped Salford to get to the GF or even close at the start of the season. If you do then respect, if you can’t then I’ll find a bandwagon for you.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Probably the daftest post you’ve ever made and you’ve had a few.
Let’s see how he does next year minus Hastings and others and a shed load of injuries.
Also let’s see a link to where you tipped Salford to get to the GF or even close at the start of the season. If you do then respect, if you can’t then I’ll find a bandwagon for you.'"
Vasty when ive posted as much crap as you then you can pull me up on it, untill then grow up. By the way you can change your name any time you want but you will never change that vile attitude you have.
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| Fisherman, just stop with the stupid comments.
Post your opinion or not but stop with the "daftest post" "give it a break" etc etc.
It just starts an argument. It's getting old.
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| Quote ="cheshirecat57"Vasty when ive posted as much crap as you then you can pull me up on it, untill then grow up. By the way you can change your name any time you want but you will never change that vile attitude you have.'" correct
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| Quote ="metallicat"Well done to Salford & coach but they will not be the same next season, they are pretty much a 1 man team'"
I shouldn't bite but I will.
And thanks to all those well-wishers on here it's nice to read people appreciating such a ty little club like Salford.
Hastings is a superstar, he really is. Along with the great Garry Jack he's the best player I've seen in 30 years of supporting the club. However.... to call Salford a one man team is disingenuous (will you say the same next season if Wigan get to/win the GF?). Our pack has been immense all year and rarely been battered. Dudson and Mossop have been outstanding along with Jones, McCarthy & at times Flanagan. George Griffin has put in some stellar end of season displays and shocked a lot of our fans as we didn't realise he had it in him.
L Tomkins and Lussick (who will be back in the NRL before long) have dovetailed superbly and both Lui & Tui have complemented Jacko in the halves and allowed him to do what he does best.
Throw in arguably SL's best full-back this season Evalds and some huge displays from Inu, Bibby, Welham & Sio and this has absolutely been a massive team effort to get us where we are. Every team needs some stardust and Jacko is just that but he'll be the first to acknowledge that his teammates have played a huge role in his own success.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"I shouldn't bite but I will.
And thanks to all those well-wishers on here it's nice to read people appreciating such a ty little club like Salford.
Hastings is a superstar, he really is. Along with the great Garry Jack he's the best player I've seen in 30 years of supporting the club. However.... to call Salford a one man team is disingenuous (will you say the same next season if Wigan get to/win the GF?). Our pack has been immense all year and rarely been battered. Dudson and Mossop have been outstanding along with Jones, McCarthy & at times Flanagan. George Griffin has put in some stellar end of season displays and shocked a lot of our fans as we didn't realise he had it in him.
L Tomkins and Lussick (who will be back in the NRL before long) have dovetailed superbly and both Lui & Tui have complemented Jacko in the halves and allowed him to do what he does best.
Throw in arguably SL's best full-back this season Evalds and some huge displays from Inu, Bibby, Welham & Sio and this has absolutely been a massive team effort to get us where we are. Every team needs some stardust and Jacko is just that but he'll be the first to acknowledge that his teammates have played a huge role in his own success.'"
Well said SaleSlim. From what I've seen of Salford this season backs up everything you say. Looking at the last few matches Salford look like a well drilled and organised TEAM (not individuals). There are few big name signings but there is a squad of more than competent SL players who are doing really well.
I've rated Watson for years and let's face it he may have a tougher challenge than Chester with budget limitations and constant loss of key players.
Good luck Salford for the weekend. It is stories like this which would bring in sponsors and media interest, rather than just the one dimensional (we must have Toronto) view that McDermott spouts.
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| I don't buy this one man team stuff - aside from the fact that it's virtually impossible in RL for one man to win a game, Salford are way more rounded than just Hastings; Bibby, Jones, Inu and Evalds for example, would improve most teams in SL, with perhaps the exception of Saints.
I give them full credit - they've been through real adversity since Koukash did his level best to ruin them, and appear to have become stronger for it; with Ian Watson proving to be an exceptional manager of men, and tactics.
They'll be in the $4it next year of course, when most of the above named will indeed be improving other SL teams - but up to and including Saturday night, I'm a fan; I'd love to see them win the GF.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"I shouldn't bite but I will.
And thanks to all those well-wishers on here it's nice to read people appreciating such a ty little club like Salford.
Hastings is a superstar, he really is. Along with the great Garry Jack he's the best player I've seen in 30 years of supporting the club. However.... to call Salford a one man team is disingenuous (will you say the same next season if Wigan get to/win the GF?). Our pack has been immense all year and rarely been battered. Dudson and Mossop have been outstanding along with Jones, McCarthy & at times Flanagan. George Griffin has put in some stellar end of season displays and shocked a lot of our fans as we didn't realise he had it in him.
L Tomkins and Lussick (who will be back in the NRL before long) have dovetailed superbly and both Lui & Tui have complemented Jacko in the halves and allowed him to do what he does best.
Throw in arguably SL's best full-back this season Evalds and some huge displays from Inu, Bibby, Welham & Sio and this has absolutely been a massive team effort to get us where we are. Every team needs some stardust and Jacko is just that but he'll be the first to acknowledge that his teammates have played a huge role in his own success.'" well done for the season, good luck in the grand final, a fit, determined team with a very knowledgeable coach who adapts a game plan to play against each team not the same tactics over and over and over and over
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| What I don't get is why have all these stars bailed out?
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"What I don't get is why have all these stars bailed out?'"
Don’t think even they were expecting to be in the grand final.
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| Quote ="wakefieldwall"Don’t think even they were expecting to be in the grand final.'"
Well it seems like a lot on here aren't surprised.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Well it seems like a lot on here aren't surprised.'"
I had them as my dark horses at the start of the season, but was thinking more in terms of 6-8th place instead of bottom 2 that everyone seemed to have them down for at the time.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Proved a point tonight that you don’t have to have a team brimming with big names and shed loads of money ,you need a team that play for each other and play with passion and pride .'"
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| Quote ="BOJ042"and a nrl quality halfback'"
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| Think it’s great what Salford have achieved this season and will definitely be shouting them home on Saturday! I see a lot of similarities between the two clubs, always have!
They’ve shown every team in the comp if you play as a team and arrive at the business end a fit and healthy team full of confidence anything is possible!
I also find the thoughts on Watson/Chester by our own fans quite comical...Watson with things go against him finished 11th last season but is a brilliant coach, best in the game yet Chester after two brilliant seasons (a bit like Watson this other than reaching a final) and a nightmare season to finish 9th and all of a sudden he’s no good.
I’d just offer a word of caution to Salford and Watson to remember this if things turn next season like they did for us...they’ve already lost their two dream team players...we’ve missed our three from last season for practically the whole season...they’ve also signed PP...let’s see how he goes too...
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| Yeah I'm under no illusions this is potentially a once in a lifetime achievement for a club like Salford and it's heartbreaking to see so many excellent players leave but unfortunately with our budget it's inevitable players will always move on. No-one could have foreseen where we'd end up this year although we showed enough early season to indicate we weren't going to be cellar dwellers. The problem is that clubs can talk to players early in the season and you're always gonna be tempted by doubling your wages if the big boys come calling.
Hastings/Bibby - Lure of playing for a big name club, lots more cash and for Jacko the chance to put himself in the shop window for an NRL gig.
Jones - Bigger club, lots more cash.
Tomkins - Apparently Leigh can offer him more cash which kinda shows where we're at financially!
Olpherts/Griffin - off to Cas. Griffin has been excellent recently but can be replaced and Olpherts has ability but is only ever a second away from a dropped bomb/handling error etc
For me the 2 big losses are Jacko & Jones - Pauli Pauli will give us plenty of x-factor in attack and Watto will definitely get the best out of him as he did on loan earlier this season. Kevin Brown will need to organise the team in Jacko's absence and let Tui (who obviously just didn't enjoy being at Leeds - who would? ) provide the magic. We've also got the likes of Rhys Williams & Luke Yates coming in from London who are Watto type players. Oh and not forgetting we're getting Dan Sarginson who is still young and an England international.
We should have an increased playing budget next year and Watto will use that to pad out the squad in case we pick up more injuries (we've been pretty lucky this year to be fair). We've also got the 2 Fev lads in to bolster numbers and by all accounts the #9 (who's name escapes me) looks like he could be a bit of a find.
We'll be fine, don't worry.
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| Hope so slim!
Always like to see teams like Salford do well as we both constantly get stick as being regular strugglers with low crowds...hope the Salford public get behind them next season after what’s been a dream year...as we know at Wakey though it’s a long, slow process getting paying fans back in!
The point about losing players too...just wish the leaders at our club would get a bit more credit in that respect because with playing well comes the cost of others trying to poach your top players...is being able to hold on to the likes of Fifita, Johnstone, Tupou etc shows what an excellent job is being done leading the club, even if we did have a bit of a poor season...
Like Salford from 11th though, there’s no reason why we can’t bounce back next year...
Good luck with Pauli...think there is a player in there as he was good first season...it’s keeping him interested that might be a problem...good luck though and all the very best for Saturday!
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| The back room staff have been the same before the million £ game against Bradford except Finn. The new coach who came in with about 7 games to go in that season brought in is own conditioner , makes you think how fit are we
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| If it wasn’t for the injuries it could have been us in the final.
Up the Trin
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