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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Problem is, Hock could end up getting Poore wound up enough to chin him and let's face it Hocks got plenty of chin to hit'"
Takes a brave man to do that. Both Bailey and the little wigan jinner did not realise what they were letting themselves into when they did it.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Takes a brave man to do that. Both Bailey and the little wigan jinner did not realise what they were letting themselves into when they did it.'"
Or one with limited inteligence....Step up Mr Hock!!!!
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Takes a brave man to do that. Both Bailey and the little wigan jinner did not realise what they were letting themselves into when they did it.'"
Yeah a red card for Wakefield on both occassions. Hes done it twice within the start of this season so he could easily do it again. Doesn't matter if he punches Hock into next week, if he leaves your squad a man down thats a massive blow.
Same can be said about Hock though, he could flip at any given minute and that could work against us
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| Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"Yeah a red card for Wakefield on both occassions. Hes done it twice within the start of this season so he could easily do it again. Doesn't matter if he punches Hock into next week, if he leaves your squad a man down thats a massive blow.
Same can be said about Hock though, he could flip at any given minute and that could work against us'"
Both times were in retaliation and I thought he was unfairly punished in comparison with the other player involved just because 1) Bailey ended up bleeding and 2) Farrell collapsed like a jellyfish. In reality in both instances a yellow card would/should have been sufficient.
I'd be fairly confident that Poore won't start anything but he's proved before that if anyone starts on him there's a damn good chance he will finish it.
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| The squad..
2. Peter FOX
3. Dean COLLIS
4. Lee SMITH
5. Ben COCKAYNE
6. Paul SYKES
7. Tim SMITH
8. Justin POORE
9. Paul AITON
10. Andy RALEIGH
11. Ali LAUITIITI
12. Danny KIRMOND (C)
13. Danny WASHBROOK
14. Kyle WOOD
15. Kyle AMOR
16. Oliver WILKES
19. Vince MELLARS
20. Reece LYNE
27. Chris ANNAKIN
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Round
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Skene
Fox
Prinsloo
Poynton
Holliday
Wilkinson
Kosanovic
Firth
Vines
Briggs
Turner.
No subs needed.
(only problem is one or two of them may have to be recalled from beyond!)'"
You've forgotten Mariano! Surely he's an all time great too?
or not.....
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| Quote ="Theboyem"The squad..'"
I'd go with
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2. Peter FOX
3. Dean COLLIS
19. Vince MELLARS
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4. Lee SMITH
7. Tim SMITH
8. Justin POORE
9. Paul AITON
10. Andy RALEIGH
27. Chris ANNAKIN
12. Danny KIRMOND (C)
13. Danny WASHBROOK
14. Kyle WOOD
15. Kyle AMOR
16. Oliver WILKES
11. Ali LAUITIITI
20. Reece LYNE
29. Jon MOLLOY
To miss out, but wouldn't be upset if Mellars and Lynne swapped round.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'd go with
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2. Peter FOX
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19. Vince MELLARS
5. Ben COCKAYNE
4. Lee SMITH
7. Tim SMITH
8. Justin POORE
9. Paul AITON
10. Andy RALEIGH
27. Chris ANNAKIN
12. Danny KIRMOND (C)
13. Danny WASHBROOK
14. Kyle WOOD
15. Kyle AMOR
16. Oliver WILKES
11. Ali LAUITIITI
20. Reece LYNE
29. Jon MOLLOY
To miss out, but wouldn't be upset if Mellars and Lynne swapped round.'"
Yep I'd go with this.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'd go with
6. Paul SYKES
2. Peter FOX
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19. Vince MELLARS
5. Ben COCKAYNE
4. Lee SMITH
7. Tim SMITH
8. Justin POORE
9. Paul AITON
10. Andy RALEIGH
27. Chris ANNAKIN
12. Danny KIRMOND (C)
13. Danny WASHBROOK
14. Kyle WOOD
15. Kyle AMOR
16. Oliver WILKES
11. Ali LAUITIITI
20. Reece LYNE
29. Jon MOLLOY
To miss out, but wouldn't be upset if Mellars and Lynne swapped round.'"
Lynne to play centre, Mellars to take Wood's spot on the bench. Wood Molloy to miss out.
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| Quote ="Fordy"Both times were in retaliation and I thought he was unfairly punished in comparison with the other player involved just because 1) Bailey ended up bleeding and 2) Farrell collapsed like a jellyfish. In reality in both instances a yellow card would/should have been sufficient.
I'd be fairly confident that Poore won't start anything but he's proved before that if anyone starts on him there's a damn good chance he will finish it.'"
striking = sending off offence.
Not my choice but there we go. It's something both Mr Hock and Mr Poore should be well aware of by now
I'm sure hock would take a blow for the team if it meant getting wakefield reduced to 12.
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| Just my opinion but the way lyne performed against Hemel, I wouldn't play him against Widnes
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Just my opinion but the way lyne performed against Hemel, I wouldn't play him against Widnes'"
Agreed
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Just my opinion but the way lyne performed against Hemel, I wouldn't play him against Widnes'"
Also when we played FC at home he stood and watched for long periods of the game.
So for me he needs to stop cutting corners and put some effort in
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"
I'm sure hock would take a blow for the team if it meant getting wakefield reduced to 12.'"
If Poore holds back then its a massive risk because Hock could get a red.
If Poore dosn't hold back, still a massive risk as both could get reds. However Poore would walk off and Hock would be carried off.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Also when we played FC at home he stood and watched for long periods of the game.
So for me he needs to stop cutting corners and put some effort in
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A months loan to Fev would do him the world of good.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"If Poore holds back then its a massive risk because Hock could get a red.
If Poore dosn't hold back, still a massive risk as both could get reds. However Poore would walk off and Hock would be carried off.'"
I doubt it. Liam Farrell has been ridiculed for being put on his bum - but I think he'll have been the one chuckling to himself after the game. Two points, two tries, MOTM award....
It seems like a poor reward for a sending off and a game lost
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I doubt it. Liam Farrell has been ridiculed for being put on his bum - but I think he'll have been the one chuckling to himself after the game. Two points, two tries, MOTM award....
It seems like a poor reward for a sending off and a game lost'"
If the ref had done his job properly, Farrell would have been penalised before Poore took retribution for being elbowed etc in the tackle, cant blame anyone for retaliating.
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| reyt enough, but it still wasn't smart
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"If the ref had done his job properly, Farrell would have been penalised before Poore took retribution for being elbowed etc in the tackle, cant blame anyone for retaliating.'"
It won't help us when we can blame the ref for our loss.
We need to play well enough that this isn't even an issue.
Best way to stop Hock is to have him running off his own line rather than running at ours.
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| It's amazing, how far either we have fallen or, Widnes have improved, that we are not even confident about winning a fixture like this.
Last seasons's wooden spoon winners SHOULD be an easy 2 points.
The fact that we go in as underdogs, says a lot about how badly we are performing as a team.
They do of course have some quality players and certainly Hock, Phelps, Hanbury and Ah Van, plus Jon Clark are all decent players but, we have to win games like this, even to be competitive in the bottom half of the league.
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| Tonight will tell us a lot about where we are as a team. Bar Mathers its our first choice line up against a team around us and played on a fast pitch, which many theories state should suit us. No excuses anymore, a good performance and two points is a must.
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| Widnes are strong at home, it seems like they've almost mastered the i-pitch but to the detriment of their away form. They've some quality players, and for us to win we'd have to work hard all over the park for 80 minutes doing the basics right.
Our defence has been a problem for a while and i haven't seen anything to indicate it's going to change. I'm not sure what's gone wrong this season, but we don't seem to have the patience nor mental strength to pull us through tight contests.
Hope i'm wrong but i fear we'll lose tonight by a couple of scores
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Widnes are strong at home, it seems like they've almost mastered the i-pitch but to the detriment of their away form. They've some quality players, and for us to win we'd have to work hard all over the park for 80 minutes doing the basics right.
Our defence has been a problem for a while and i haven't seen anything to indicate it's going to change. I'm not sure what's gone wrong this season, but we don't seem to have the patience nor mental strength to pull us through tight contests.
Hope i'm wrong but i fear we'll lose tonight by a couple of scores'"
Totally agree.
With the exception of Poore, there just isn't enough aggression and determination in defence.
Much of the time we seem to just go through the motions and unless we can have some discipline, not giving away penalties and have patience with ball in hand, we could get beaten.
I hadn't realised how good their home form is, only one defeat (and that was to Saints), oops.
Maybe we need an ipitch at Newmarket
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Totally agree.
With the exception of Poore, there just isn't enough aggression and determination in defence.
Much of the time we seem to just go through the motions and unless we can have some discipline, not giving away penalties and have patience with ball in hand, we could get beaten.
I hadn't realised how good their home form is, only one defeat (and that was to Saints), oops.
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Maybe we need a Newmarket first
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| Maybe we need another strong aggressive hard running prop who tackles anything that moves like Poore? IMHO with the exception of him, Aiton and Annakin our pack have been well out of sorts this season compared to the last 10 matches of last season.
If they turn up it will be close but i think we'll just beat them but if they all don't play to their potential we'll lose by 20.
Come on Wakefield!
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