Shut yer gob numpty

He was there yesterday and has been to U18 games

I was winding him up, or is this just a one way thing

John Kear is THE best coach for us at this moment in time without doubt. The effort and passion he shows is superb, and the tag of "underdog" suits him down to a tee. I will support Kear 100% to the end, whether that be at the end of the season, or whenever. In Kear We Trust- Together We Are Stronger.

If you rate Kear so much why do you give his first choice FB such a hard time?

We also had a guy called Bill kirkbride who did a decent job if my memory serves me correctly.
Oh and lets not forget another guy who had a spell with us. He was a great as a Trinity player but
did not do that much as coach however I think he had a good coaching record elsewhere


Mr Derek Turner

Last but not least, lets not forget our old friend Terry Crook

I've a lot of time for Kear and have had some very close contact and many conversations with him in recent years. He is one of, if not THE best technical coach in England and his ability to bring young and hungry players on is to be admired. Players like Mariano and Tommy Lee have been crying out for a coach who not only believes in them but one that has the know how and techincal expertise to make them better players. I am pretty certain that had he been Rovers coach and Morgan Wakeys coach the result yesterday would have been the other way round.

Really hope you guys stay in SL, so good luck for the rest of the season.

I have to say I would go down as a "Kear knocker" over the last year or so - and I am not ashamed to admit it. At the time when I was knocking him I didnt think he had the ability to take us up to the next level and for us to progress as a club from one in the doldrums to one that could challenge for a play off spot consistently.

I have got issues with his team selections, his gameplan and also his substitutions are baffling at times - but the one thing I have never questioned is his ability to get the lads up for a game. I think he has been instrumental this season so far in getting the lads up for it and getting them to punch above their weight, I dont think there is anybody better at taking a bunch of missfits, rejects and rogues and turning them into solid SL standard players.

I think my main criticism of him is that when he does have some money to spend he seems to get it wrong and we often seem to pick up players on the surface "for the sake of it", not exactly panic buying but you know what I mean. Give him a shoestring and he comes into his own, the old backs against the wall mentality.

Yes I still have issues with him and he has his faults, but for now I am happy for him to be in charge as he will get the best out of what we have, but should we stay in the league and have more money to play with next year then I fear we would see the same kind of thing happen again to us as happened last year and also happened at Hull, "poor" players under Kear = good side, "good" players under Kear = not so good side maybe?

That's really big of you Tommy, I'm sure he feels better now

I think he's doing a great job with the resources and limitations your club was/are in. To pull it out of the fire time and time again is a credit to his man management skills. He's better with his back to the wall and comes out fighting against the odds. His is a credit to WTWC.

I think if he is in the slightest bit bothered about what people type about him on a message board then he has more flaws than I thought.

Owt relevent to contribute to the discussion?

I don't think that this debate need be all or nothing. My position that he is the coach with the best pedegree that the club has had in over 30 years is I think clear to evidence if one examines his track record against his peers (perhaps Peter Fox might contend with him but for how long was he our coach? Wasn't he a football manager type over the coach?)

However to assert this on one hand does not preclude us from questioning some of his methods on the other - this is, I believe, quite legitimate. I guess I piped up earlier in the thread because I don't feel its reasonable or fair for people to take his failings as the reason for our losses (as was common place last year) without giving him credit for our successes.

All managers operate within a context - it isn't hard to present a narrative that interprets last season in the light of a range of uncontrollable (certainly out of JKs controll) off field and then do similar this season.

Even if this season is the result of a remarkable subculture amongst the squad surely JK desreves some credit for his part in creating that. My position has always been that it is easy to golrify or dam a coach or player based on a short period (say a season or so) but the real test of their metal is their contribution over the longer term. For me JK, accounting for the off field stuff, has been an outstanding success for us in the longer term.

Good stuff - it took me two paragraphs to say that.

going a little bit off topic, but i didnt know tony drury was appointed assitant coach of england youth! well done tony!

Because I don't rate his first choice full back.

I wonder where we would be now if we'd have gone with Jimmy Lowes instead!

Going to Batley, Dewsbury , Barrow etc five years earlier than we may be.

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I know what you are saying, but actually his first choice is probably Murphy. He just needs him to plug a gap elsewhere.

No his first choice is Blaymire I suspect because he is the better player in that position in my opinion and that of a fair few others and he keeps picking him - straight from injury. With Dean, George, Griffin, Johnson, Penny and Morton available in those positions what gap is Murphy plugging? Murphy's preferred position is Centre as a matter of interest though I'm sure he'd take FB given the chance.

You don't know he is first choice, everyone is entitled to make up opinions, no one is entitled to make up facts.

And you are who exactly, I know who Kear is so his opinion means something and his results this season back him up. I'm baffled as to why you think differently especially as you claim to back him as coach, it's a baffling contradiction to say the least. If your hero didn't think Blaymire was the right choice why play him as he has an option in Veivers and Hyde and of course Murphy. Why not just get behind the player and admit that on present form with two near MOM performances Blaymire has proved you wrong.

Next time I have an opinion, I'll make sure it's okay with you first. Blaymire was no where near man of the match for me on Sunday, and the video highlights confirm that. Just because I rate Kear as a coach, it doesn't mean I have to agree with everything he does, but as a paying customer I have that right to an opinion.

I know that you cant just write last season off, but with 2010 as the exception JK has been magnificent.
The fact that he masterminded the great escape, for me, means that he can do no wrong.
Yes, we did have a poor season last year, but how much of that was down to JK.
In retrospect, we had to cash in on Brough, for reasons which became all too clear and maybe this was one of the reasons Shane Tronc decided to return home and again, nobody could have envisaged the tragic circumstances regarding Terry Newton.
Add to this the cash crisis, that was ever increasing and the low salary cap that we have to play with and then take a measure on how good he really is.
Keep up the good work.

Here we go again. This is a forum, a place for debate and strong opinions - if you're going to post on a forum be prepared to be challenged. This is a really tiresome complaint, a forum is not a place where you can just pronounce your opinion without consequences. You can argue and shout as much as you like within the AUP's but as far as I'm aware you're not entitled to be left alone. If you don't want the hassle don't post strong opinions no one made you.

You don't pay to be on here by the way so I don't get the point.

If the highlights confirm your belief might I suggest you watch them again with your eyes open. You're right he wasn't MOM, but he played very well none the less.

No, he didn't play well, he played okay. He took some good high balls in tough conditions, something I have pulled him down for in the past but on Sunday he look as safes as houses, even with the wind. However, he could have done more with each of the second half tries, and again he offered little in attack. In my opinion, he was also lucky to stay on the pitch as his try saving tackle appeared to be more of a try saving 'trip' to me. I've no doubt you will tell me I'm wrong as you do to so many others on here who do not share your view.