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| If we enter this season with just Sykes and Godinet the prospect of relegation seems a strong possibility.
Don't know what we offered 'harry secombe' but he won't be comming for nothing. Then there will be the costs of his fights, accommodation etc. I would reckon for a few more quid we could get Luke Gale from Bradford. He's a local lad, has agreed to play for us in the past and you know exactly what you will be getting.
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| Quote ="Fritzys Mullet"Agreed. Especially when (admittedly only on a limited amount of viewing), i would have said that Godinet is more of a hooker than a half back.
Whats Jeremy Smith upto nowadays????
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Really don't know where this has come from. He's a S/H who has as far as I'm aware only ever played 9 games at hooker.
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| If Siejka does sign for the Broncos, there should be some dynamics between Moore and himself!
Maybe London is a safer option for him as he probably would be automatic choice at halfback.
May have to work for his place or even get benched if at Wake
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| We got the best out of Sykes when he was having to compete for his place with John but John was subsequently under used. Not sure we have sufficient strength in depth at 6 though with just Sykes and Godinet and Sykes was injury prone last season and is 33.
From what I've read and heard Godinet sees himself as a scrum half and NRL club tried to convert him to hooker for 9/10 matches. Sykes is a make shift stand off from 2 years ago so a genuine SL standard stand off is required if we are to really compete throughout the season IMHO.
If Siejka comes and becomes first choice Sykes could compete with Mathers for full back. If he wants to be playing with a competetive team in front of an 8,000 plus crowd then Wakey is the place.
Will it be the bright lights of London or Westgate that Siejka will be looking at in the coming weeks?
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| Quote ="vastman"Really don't know where this has come from. He's a S/H who has as far as I'm aware only ever played 9 games at hooker.'"
Think he's played most of his junior and lower grade rugby in the halves and that is definately what he sees himself as but nearly all of his first grade appearances at the warriors came as an interchange hooker and he played at 9 in 3 of Samoa's 4 games in the world cup.
Makes no difference anyway, he's going to have to be our number 1 halfback and be damn good at it if we are to have a chance of staying up.
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| We are a little light in the halves but I think McShane gives us more creativity from dummy half than Aiton did.
This could be the big factor in the make or break of the halves.
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| Quote ="vastman"Really don't know where this has come from. He's a S/H who has as far as I'm aware only ever played 9 games at hooker.'"
Like I said above, as you do when we sign guys you don't know too much about you go on their clubs forum. Just reading a few topics back on the Warriors site, I got it the wrong way round, he was being used as interchange Hooker by Matthew Elliot, when he got game time in the Warriors side. All those who wathced him play for the Vulcans can't believe he didn't get his chance in the halves, where he run the show in the NSW Cup over the last couple of years.
Tbh with what I've seen of him for Samoa & the highlights knocking around, I'm looking forward to see him play. If their fans are anythig to go by, we've got ourselves a very god player, who can lead a team around the field, loves setting up other players and a great kicking game especially short, quick as well.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"From what I've read and heard Godinet sees himself as a scrum half and NRL club tried to convert him to hooker for 9/10 matches. Sykes is a make shift stand off from 2 years ago so a genuine SL standard stand off is required if we are to really compete throughout the season IMHO.
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That would probably explain why he looked more like a hooker on the odd ocasion i have seen him then. Looked very sharp out of dummy half.
Half back or hooker, whichever way you look we still look a bit short in the halves, but if there is no money left, then we just have to go with what we've got.
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| Quote ="Fritzys Mullet"That would probably explain why he looked more like a hooker on the odd ocasion i have seen him then. Looked very sharp out of dummy half.
Half back or hooker, whichever way you look we still look a bit short in the halves, but if there is no money left, then we just have to go with what we've got.'"
Correct, but we do have a genuine SH which is just as well.
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| Godinet is an out and out SH - A lot of warriors fans belive he was the answer to there problems for a half parnter for Shaun Johnson.
Seijka was tipped for the next big thing in AUS, infact i remember reading he had a record contract for his age at penrith ?
The verdict seems to be lots of potential, shown some good stuff in NSW Cup - However 2 serious injuries in the past couple of seasons, which is always worrying and more so with younger players. Total punt, but who else is available ? I would agree with the fact we cannot rely on Sykes to be our only choice at 6 next season.
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| Nice bit about Pita Godinet in today's Rugby League World. The Kiwiw correspondent says that we're going to love him. He goes on to say that he is one of those old style players who can make something happen out of nothing and isn't afraid to try his hand. He only got ten NRL games last year but the correspondent reckons he deserved more.
A good endorsement from someone who has actually seen him play!
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| Quote ="Fritzys Mullet"That would probably explain why he looked more like a hooker on the odd ocasion i have seen him then. Looked very sharp out of dummy half.
Half back or hooker, whichever way you look we still look a bit short in the halves, but if there is no money left, then we just have to go with what we've got.'"
Think if we've got anything left we need to stretch it to get Siejka now the league structure is changing... Alternative is may have to look at Luke Briscoe as the potential stand off back up to Sykes.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Think if we've got anything left we need to stretch it to get Siejka now the league structure is changing... Alternative is may have to look at Luke Briscoe as the potential stand off back up to Sykes.'"
I hope not because although Briscoe is a talented player with a lot of potential there is no way he is a Stand Off. I think we would be more likely to see Lee Smith play there.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I hope not because although Briscoe is a talented player with a lot of potential there is no way he is a Stand Off. I think we would be more likely to see Lee Smith play there.'"
But that's exactly what he is!?!
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| Briscoe is a centre or winger isn't he?
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| Quote ="Wakey Til I Die"Briscoe is a centre or winger isn't he?'"
No a lot of sources say this, his primary position is in the halves. Also plays at FB
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"No a lot of sources say this, his primary position is in the halves. Also plays at FB'"
Really? He has played on the wing in both our pre-season friendlies, once for each side.
And when he signed the quote from Agar read "Luke is a strong, natural footballer who can play anywhere in the backline and can slot into the back-row if required". Doesn't mention the halves at all. i'd be worried if he was our main halfback cover.
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| Luke Briscoe is a rugby league player from Featherstone who currently plays for Leeds Rhinos in the Super League. He can play either Fullback or Stand-off/Five-eighth.
Taken from [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_BriscoeHERE[/url
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| Quote ="financialtimes"Luke Briscoe is a rugby league player from Featherstone who currently plays for Leeds Rhinos in the Super League. He can play either Fullback or Stand-off/Five-eighth.
Taken from [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_BriscoeHERE[/url'"
Thats settled it then, wikipedia says so.
He is actually listed as a second row on the Rhinos site.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I hope not because although Briscoe is a talented player with a lot of potential there is no way he is a Stand Off. I think we would be more likely to see Lee Smith play there.'"
How have you come to that conclusion?!
He may not be the finished article but he's every chance of being a SL S/O if he wants to, certainly more his natural position than it ever will be Smith.
Gordon Bennett some fans write of players quickly and with little evidence to back it up.
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| Quote ="Wakey Til I Die"Thats settled it then, wikipedia says so.
He is actually listed as a second row on the Rhinos site.'"
Yes but he's right.
Can I ask you something. If you are Milkman does that mean you will always be one. Or would you expect with some training and experience or a bit of education you could be a Truck driver or even a brain surgeon.
Player are like the rest of us, they are not born Props or Wingers, so long as they have the attributes they can be what they want. I would have thought any lad quick enough and nimble enough to be a SL back has the attributes should he put his mind to it to be a Stand off.
Wish we'd stop pigeon holing players.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yes but he's right.
Can I ask you something. If you are Milkman does that mean you will always be one. Or would you expect with some training and experience or a bit of education you could be a Truck driver or even a brain surgeon.
Player are like the rest of us, they are not born Props or Wingers, so long as they have the attributes they can be what they want. I would have thought any lad quick enough and nimble enough to be a SL back has the attributes should he put his mind to it to be a Stand off.
Wish we'd stop pigeon holing players.'"
That the answer you've sussed it, Foxy to be the next Darren Lockyer!
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| Quote ="Wakey Til I Die"Thats settled it then, wikipedia says so.
He is actually listed as a second row on the Rhinos site.'"
That's a mistake, he's classed as a utility back - has played most of his rugby in the halves or at fullback as I said before.
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| Quote ="Wildcat26"That's a mistake, he's classed as a utility back - has played most of his rugby in the halves or at fullback as I said before.'"
He's played just about everywhere except prop (including loose forward against us on boxing day 2012) but hasn't played much at stand off for the academy at Leeds as Liam Sutcliffe got that gig more often than not. Although to be fair Briscoe didn't play much at all last year because of injury. He's been a bit of a jack of all trades up to press, he probably needs to find his position and settle into it. If that is to be stand off great, but I don't think thats what we have brought him in to be going by Agars quotes and given our lack of cover in the backs.
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