Fair enough.

I missed our first try (Jowitt?) because I was stuck in a queue for a sausage roll.

You know what reedy my liccle lad, I think it would change person to person for what is deemed as acceptable. I'd personally be satisfied with a change in attitude, I want to see a revised Trinity out there who want to put on a show. The 2pts aren't likely but providing we're putting up some sort of fight for 80 minutes rather than trying to dominate a side with 12 minutes to play, I'll be happy with it.

You never know, we might be second bottom come next week depending on what the Robins do against Leeds. A 23+ loss puts them bottom

(at least for a couple of days)

Be interesting to see the 17 this week considering the comments on certain players returning to action.

Memories play tricks. They said that about all those teams in the past and I think if your honest we’ve had far more clueless and gutless teams than this one. It’s just that this team is in focus because it’s the current one.

I could if I was bothered go back and find numerous a Trinity teams that have been far worse with far worse results. Plenty of 60 and even 70 point thrashings. Where as this team has lacked composure it’s still played some good RL through parts of most games. I’ve seen Trinity teams that quite literally couldn’t put a pass together. Jowitts first try against Hull would have been the try of the season had they been able to actually score it,

It’s hard to keep some perspective when everything seems to be going wrong but in my opinion this team has more spirit and talent than most of our previous duffer squads.

Almost nail on head.
I agree that our current squad does have more talent than so many others over the past 25/30 years and that is what makes this season (and the majority of last season) so damn disappointing.
Harbin or Kear would have killed to have these players at their disposal but, for whatever reason, the team is somewhat less than the (theoretical) sum of the parts.
In any half decent side, the opposite is true.
Taking account of their individual ability, how many players this season, would you say are currently hitting 7/10 or better individually, for the full 80 minutes.
When you try and go through the side and apply this measure, it's certainly less than the fingers of one hand.

We desperately need a midfield general or something close.

The last line is the point though. Harbin and Kear had a general.

Chester’s had 5 years to find a midfield general!!

Finn did well, I wish we had him now, but let’s be honest he was a cheap option who’d been cast off from Cas after a career in the lower division. He worked for us for a season maybe two but he was never going to be the longer term solution to our controlling halfback problem.

Chester’s had 5 years to manipulate his budget, to cut here and chop there so as to create a larger financial offer to a quality halfback. Over the last 3 years there have been halfbacks available so it’s no good moaning now that there’s no one out there who we can afford.
Sorry it simply doesn’t wash, it’s a problem of his own creation because he’s had time to foresee and avoid it but simply hasn’t used his budget well at all.

Exactly, for the evolution of this team, replacing Fin & Grix properly was the priority, and it hasn't been done. We have had 5 players have a go at full back, and I still couldn't tell you who is first choice!

Agree and some fans on here are saying Mr Chester and is jobs for mates coaching staff are doing a great job

According to form last seasons top try scorer, top assists, top metre maker, and most break maker, has been dropped for the Wigan game along with Jowitt, Josh Wood and Navarette, keep it under your hat because Chester hasn't as yet informed them, apparently.

I thought Clogger & Crew were brought in way before Chester arrived. Maybe by Agar??

Clawson and Dickens certainly joined us when Agar did. Gilmour joined the coaching staff when he retired in 2014.

You hit the nail on the head .In 2015 Smith ad to bring in is own conditioner to get us fit and save us going down in the million pound game ,they are still hear .

Fifita, Arona, Miller, Johnstone, Green, Tangata and possibly Ashurst all in contention this week with Liam Kay and Eddie Battye out through injury.

Be an interesting squad tomorrow....

Can only be a good thing getting players back and a bit more competition for places...

From an article in the YEP...interesting point made from CC too that for the first time in a long time was able to do a proper 13 v 13 in training Monday and a real lift in intensity from previous weeks...make of that what you will...

I hope we go in with both Woods, gonna be doing a lot of defending I imagine

If not a win on fri I’m expecting/hoping for a positive reaction from the team and to prove to us sceptics that we aren’t a basket case.It would be unfair of me to tar the whole team with the same brush as quite a few of the players are busting a gut but our game just seems out of kilter for want of a better word .Some trying too hard some sitting back and some with issues all in the mix .All I ask is to see the team collectively rolling its sleeves up and having a dig ,can’t ask for anymore at this stage ,but it’s a big ask .

If both Woods in for they tackling ,that two of the smallest players in the team .sums up were we are.

Close,but no cigar.

23rd September 2017 trinity 32 wigan 0.

The point being you don’t want them doing 80minutes.
He’ll prob put Crowther there for a spell. Bit harsh on JW and Jowitt for that matter, but then we know Gigot excites Chester

If Gigot excities Mr Chester he must be easy pleased he as not done anything 3 other players could not do looks like a nother played who is here for a final pay out

I’m not gonna write him off just yet because I have seen him do some fantastic things for Catalan. But I only see em play 3/4 times a season so maybe he’s very inconsistent who knows. But he deserves his chance given we’ve only just signed him, not his fault it looks like an odd choice given the make up of the squad

So, after 2 rounds the table looks like this:
[iTri-Series [/i P W L D F A Diff Pts
St Helens 1 1 0 0 42 0 42 2
Wigan 2 1 1 0 28 58 -30 2
Wakefield 1 0 1 0 16 28 -12 0

we just need to beat St Helens by more than 27 points to be crowned Tri-Series champions 2020

Gigot, so far, has been disappointing and he seems to give a few penalties away too.
Having said that, any settled HB pairing will be better than the weekly shuffle that we've had for the last 8 games.

It’s gone on longer than 8 games, more like since the start of last season, forced or otherwise. Example, last year we saw Hampshire move from FB, to wing, to HB. This year we’ve seen Jowitt move from HB, to wing, to FB.

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We should try that with Tom.....