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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"would you prefer the club to committ to it's SL fixtures but run a real risk that is a distinct possibility that it might not be able to see out the season, or even worse, go out of business soon after the season commences -
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take the hit now, close down Wakey Trinity Wildcats and re-form as Wakefield Trinity (2011) Ltd competing a full season in the championship and begin the long road back to recovery??
It hurts, but not impossible - HKR, Huddersfield being recent examples'"
Option 1 won't happen - if the CLUB starts the season, the CLUB will finish it............the BUSINESS on the other hand is a totally different matter.
Option 2 - IMHO is the right thing to do. There's no way that another club (i.e. Widnes who are all but confirmed as the promoted team) can build a squad capable of competing in SL in less than 4 weeks so the RFL will have to allow WT to continue there for this season. It does mean that we'd almost certainly be facing 3 years out of SL, but it would probably see us come back stronger - both on & off the pitch.
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| Quote ="RDM"Option 1 won't happen - if the CLUB starts the season, the CLUB will finish it............the BUSINESS on the other hand is a totally different matter.
Option 2 - IMHO is the right thing to do. There's no way that another club (i.e. Widnes who are all but confirmed as the promoted team) can build a squad capable of competing in SL in less than 4 weeks so the RFL will have to allow WT to continue there for this season. It does mean that we'd almost certainly be facing 3 years out of SL, but it would probably see us come back stronger - both on & off the pitch.'"
sadly I agree fully
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| Quote ="RDM"Option 1 won't happen - if the CLUB starts the season, the CLUB will finish it............the BUSINESS on the other hand is a totally different matter.
Option 2 - IMHO is the right thing to do. There's no way that another club (i.e. Widnes who are all but confirmed as the promoted team) can build a squad capable of competing in SL in less than 4 weeks so the RFL will have to allow WT to continue there for this season. It does mean that we'd almost certainly be facing 3 years out of SL, but it would probably see us come back stronger - both on & off the pitch.'"
If we go out of SL they will never let us back in, simple reason, they do not need us, if any one thinks any different, then they are not right in the head. They wont to expand the game, not have a load of teams from yorkshire in.our gates will be around 1500, that means no money coming in.Sorry but thats the way it will be. I can see SL in time to come with less teams in, like the fat cats taking all the money from sky.
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| Quote ="bazzo44"If we go out of SL they will never let us back in, simple reason, they do not need us, if any one thinks any different, then they are not right in the head. They wont to expand the game, not have a load of teams from yorkshire in.our gates will be around 1500, that means no money coming in.Sorry but thats the way it will be. I can see SL in time to come with less teams in, like the fat cats taking all the money from sky.'"
Question is........do you want to watch your club (possibly not in SL) or do you just want to watch SL?
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| Quote ="bazzo44"If we go out of SL they will never let us back in, simple reason, they do not need us, if any one thinks any different, then they are not right in the head. They wont to expand the game, not have a load of teams from yorkshire in.our gates will be around 1500, that means no money coming in.Sorry but thats the way it will be. I can see SL in time to come with less teams in, like the fat cats taking all the money from sky.'"
That is the reality of the situation you find yourselves in , to drop down and then push your way back in would require massive investement , you would need Newmarket to be built , you would need to fill it in the Championship , and hope that another heartland SL club implodes as you have done
Toulouse are the next SL club after Widnes , if you had managed to get Newmarket or Thornes park built then either Cas would be on their way out or we would be looking at a 16 team SL next year
What sort of fan base do you think you would/will retain in the Championships ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"That is the reality of the situation you find yourselves in , to drop down and then push your way back in would require massive investement , you would need Newmarket to be built , you would need to fill it in the Championship , and hope that another heartland SL club implodes as you have done
Toulouse are the next SL club after Widnes , if you had managed to get Newmarket or Thornes park built then either Cas would be on their way out or we would be looking at a 16 team SL next year
What sort of fan base do you think you would/will retain in the Championships ?'"
The usual format I see; condescending statements of the bleedin' obvious about the 'reality of our situation', described with barely disguised glee, followed by an oblique question. Which, incidentally, you agreed to stop doing.
Exactly how did we end up with you permanently camped on our forum by the way - were you barred from the VT?
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| Quote ="bren2k":11jgv4a4The usual format I see; condescending statements of the bleedin' obvious about the 'reality of our situation', described with barely disguised glee, followed by an oblique question. Which, incidentally, you agreed to stop doing.
Exactly how did we end up with you permanently camped on our forum by the way - were you barred from the VT?'" at the JJB , and the other in 2006 at Belle view with our ' NL 1 needs a strong W1g4n ' flag , so sorry if you disagree with my posts or I have struck a nerve , but thats something you'll have to put up with
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| Quote ="PopTart"There is nothing fair and square about how Huddersfield got to where they are now.
Cas and Hull KR got in fair and square and have done a good job since.'"
explain!!!! we did not go down due to the winners of the nl1 not having good enough ground/ criteria for 3 years.. we go down and come up as unbeaten champions...
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"explain!!!! we did not go down due to the winners of the nl1 not having good enough ground/ criteria for 3 years.. we go down and come up as unbeaten champions...'"
I'm no big Shudds fan but I have to agree that they are now in fair and square.
Perhaps what the original comment refers to is Shudds elevation and maintenance for a lengthy period in Super League giving them an elevated position to achieve what they eventually got???
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not the ' bleedin obvious ' to a lot of your fans it would seem , many of them , conditioned by a decade of being in the top tier dont seem to understand the realitys of running a SL club or the potential constraints of being a heartland club on the outside of a Franchised SL
Why am I here , bored with the telly , the off season with no RL to watch or talk about , not being able to complain yet again about the antics of Ryan Bailey and Danny Buserus ?
Fed up with the situation yet another heartland club is in with no clear path to a brighter future , I have only ever gone to a SL match other than with Leigh and supported another club , both those occaisions were Wakey v the Pies , one the play off in 2004 [ a guess on the year at the JJB , and the other in 2006 at Belle view with our ' NL 1 needs a strong W1g4n ' flag , [uso sorry if you disagree with my posts or I have struck a nerve , but thats something you'll have to put up with[/u'"
It would appear that some of you what aren't regular posters on here seem to be touching a nerve or two with some local posters
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| Quote ="chissitt"icon_lol.gif It would appear that some of you what aren't regular posters on here seem to be touching a nerve or two with some local posters
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Not touching any nerves with me - just getting on my t*ts; one of the dullest and most repetitive posters our plight has attracted thus far, and there's been a few.
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| ATEOTD its not a matter of Super League or Championship.
What is the matter is What is best for the club? Sadly at the moment its down to the people incharge who will decide this.
TR and his cronies have brought the club to its knees,they should be thrown as far as they can be.....
I dont hate WTW, i live in the city, drive past the ground everyday on the way to work, i want them to do well, just not aswel as the team i love and support.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Not touching any nerves with me - just getting on my t*ts; one of the dullest and most repetitive posters our plight has attracted thus far, and there's been a few.'"
Only dull and repetitive because I seem to be answering the same dull and repetitive comments from fans who really should read and think about what they are posting before they do it , shame about your t*ts
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"explain!!!! we did not go down due to the winners of the nl1 not having good enough ground/ criteria for 3 years.. we go down and come up as unbeaten champions...'"
You did get up fair and square, although the RFL did move the goalposts following your promotion, so that future relegated teams lost the luxury of the parachute payment you received (which obviously helped you a great deal). The loss of the payment made it extremely difficult for relegated teams after that, so Huddersfield have had more help than most as far as Superleague is concerned, lucky you!
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| Quote ="danny boy1"You did get up fair and square, although the RFL did move the goalposts following your promotion, so that future relegated teams lost the luxury of the parachute payment you received (which obviously helped you a great deal). The loss of the payment made it extremely difficult for relegated teams after that, so Huddersfield have had more help than most as far as Superleague is concerned, lucky you!'"
I didn't know Joel Monaghan had signed for Cas ? , thats his picture in your avatar isn't it
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| Quote ="RDM"Question is........do you want to watch your club (possibly not in SL) or do you just want to watch SL?'"
Bob on. The irony of 'us' banging on about 'fat cats' and 'Sky money' and 'Super League isn't the be all and end all' - yet if the club finds itself out of SL, some of 'us' won't go watch them!
The club has been around since 1873, great from 1958-68. good at other times, garbage for many years. That there is a Wakefield Trinity still around is more important, whether that is playing Super League, Championship or Conference!
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I'm no big Shudds fan but I have to agree that they are now in fair and square.
Perhaps what the original comment refers to is Shudds elevation and maintenance for a lengthy period in Super League giving them an elevated position to achieve what they eventually got???'"
That was indeed my point.
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| I wish you all and trinity the best I am a Leeds Loiners fan but most of my youth was a argument between my dad taking me to Leeds games and my grandad ( was a massive trinity fan) taking me to see trinity. My dad won, but I have great memories, and may grandad would be mortified had he still been here.
All the best and if there is anything where help
is needed from league fans please make a post would be glad to try and help. (sadly I don't have a spare grand before someone asks!)
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| Has any one thought that a potential new chairman/board might be waiting for the club to go bust so they can buy it for nothing?
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| I think the biggest problem you (or cas) if you go down is the fact that rugby league clubs in the games heartlands are no longer as desirable as some fly by night operation in some far flung corner of the uk and re-entry to superleague will be a definate non starter. I fear that if cas (or wakey) survive in superleague , then its only a 3 year stay of execution till they (RFL) come looking for another club to drop to suit the aforementioned fly by nights
The game as a sport is fooked
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| Quote ="musson"Has any one thought that a potential new chairman/board might be waiting for the club to go bust so they can buy it for nothing?'"
You might be on to something there...
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| Quote ="adelaide-giant.no9"explain!!!! we did not go down due to the winners of the nl1 not having good enough ground/ criteria for 3 years.. we go down and come up as unbeaten champions...'"
It was utter bull back then and nothing has changed since
Amazing though shudds managed to go bust finish, bottom 3 years in a row but some how were give the Sheffield team to chop up as they saw fit, cash and were allowed double the amount of aussies
Forgive me for still being upset about this but do you think Wakefield will get the same treatment if we'd finished bottom 3 times in a row and gone bust?
Thats right we wouldn't
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| Quote ="musson"It was utter bull back then and nothing has changed since
Amazing though shudds managed to go bust finish, bottom 3 years in a row but some how were give the Sheffield team to chop up as they saw fit, cash and were allowed double the amount of aussies
Forgive me for still being upset about this but do you think Wakefield will get the same treatment if we'd finished bottom 3 times in a row and gone bust?
Thats right we wouldn't'"
And the teams which were eligible for promotion in the years Huddersfield finished bottom were not up to the criteria required, and when a team was up to those, they were relegated.
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