RIP Dave Roberts. Lovely man,

He was very good mates with a lad that I used to work with, who played up at Eastmoor and we'd regularly bump into one another in town on a Friday night - a few years ago mind.
Top bloke and very, very sad news.

RIP fella.

Sorry to hear that mate...condolences to you all

Wakefield have a lot of involvement with the Dragons over the years which makes it even more sad, I’ve always been made welcome when I’ve attended games representing Wakey, a good bunch of folk doing a great job. RIP Dave.

Well said to those above.
It just shows what we are all up against with this terrible virus.
#staysafe

Very sad, brings it home.

I’m beginning to ask myself “what’s the point” of self isolation. social distancing, and losing family and friends, when the government are allowing 15000, yes, fifteen thousand people a day flying into the UK, without any medical checks, allowing these people from all over the world to mix with the U.K. population. I’ve been quite supporting of most things the government has done up to now, but this news, just baffles me, I’ve lost a lot of faith in our leaders, I think they have just made the biggest mistake so far. Can anyone explain the logic of why all theses people are allowed into the Uk, without medical checkups.

I think I'm right in believing DS, that they have to self isolate for 2 weeks immediately on arrival.

That’s a possibility, but how many people do they come into contact with until they reach their point of isolation. Airport staff, Public transport, taxi, lifts from family, friends.etc, the infection rate would quickly accelerate.

Can't find any article saying there are 15,000 a day coming in.
But the reason some are still coming in is to repatriate British people stranded abroad.
It's not hard to take someone's temperature which is the first check.
My friend who came in on a plane a couple of weeks ago said they were checked twice before making it to the terminal, and then told to self isolate.

Do you read the Daily Mail? Not a snipe but its performance in peddling these fake news stories has bee appalling even by their standards.

One enquiry I would like to see when this is over is a genuine look at the role of the press, all of them not just the mail.

I'm not trying to shackle the press but on issues of public safety, I believe they should be compelled to name sources and provide links, not just to those who support the story but also those who don't.

The press should have been investigated after the general election, however any such type of investigation would prove pointles.

Why? Did your side lose?

looks like it too late he was admitted early this morning expected pneumonia/covid 19 now just a waiting time now to see which way it will go

Stay safe all

A quick google for Heathrow shows two flights in from New York this morning and flights from Madrid, Rome and Paris, these are regular flights, I can’t honestly see these all being repatriation flights. Plus people talk of being told to self isolate, can’t see everyone adhering to that.

Fair comment, but bear in mind we cant get some bell ends to just to social distance who have been in the UK since lockdown.

Quote ="PopTart"Can't find any article saying there are 15,000 a day coming in. But the reason some are still coming in is to repatriate British people stranded abroad. It's not hard to take someone's temperature which is the first check. My friend who came in on a plane a couple of weeks ago said they were checked twice before making it to the terminal, and then told to self isolate.'" The Times this morning I believe. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coro ... -bn255vtjs

Quote ="PopTart"Can't find any article saying there are 15,000 a day coming in. But the reason some are still coming in is to repatriate British people stranded abroad. It's not hard to take someone's temperature which is the first check. My friend who came in on a plane a couple of weeks ago said they were checked twice before making it to the terminal, and then told to self isolate.'" The Times this morning I believe. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coro ... -bn255vtjs

Very true. I know it would be costly but why not forcibly isolate them, straight into a hotel on site for two weeks. These are extraordinary times, this government needs to be tougher, if you don’t want imposed isolation then don’t fly, simple.

The General Election/Brexit and a Pandemic are not the same things, one is a choice the other isn't, give it a rest.

There is serious point on just who is flying into Heathrow.
The numbers of flights is down by 90% but, for one of the busiest airports in the world, that's an awful lot of people still coming and going (around 700,000), without any enforced isolation.
Of course, many of these are Britons returning home, after being stuck abroad and foreign nationals returning home after being stuck here but, it's a huge number and all this while most of us are stuck at home ??

That is what is happening with some.

Good, we’ve enough with our own s putting lives at risk without allowing people to travel in from Covid19 hot spots.

I've no doubt. However, that's not the point. I can guarantee you that you will find 20 versions of the said story as with many others regarding Coronavirus, all with a slant that suits their particular agenda, That's fine in the cut and thrust of real life. It will also be ok once all this is over. There is a time and a place and now isn't it.

The conceit seems to be amongst the press and a lot of people, in general, is that they are keeping the Government on its toes and holding it to account a sort of crusading for the public. This IMHO it shows arrogance or a sense of attention-seeking that I don't like and I feel to be unhelpful and dishonest.

I don't say this to defend Ministers of Civil Servants, I say it because virtually nobody is an expert on this subject and even those who have until now only ever dealt in hypotheticals. Yet now led by the tiresome Piers Morgan they are all expert and have all the answers and expect a huge government apparatus to be able to adjust to their pet theories instantly.

It's overused but now is the time for solidarity and that include the FACT that we have to go with those in charge under the assumption that they are doing their best There must be a sound reason why people are still entering the country, it may not be a reason you approve of but that's why we have governments, people who are willing to make decisions. Ever been to a meeting where the chair asks the audience their opinion? I have and often there is a wall of silence. People chelp a lot but when given the chance they rarely contribute.

There is something unpleasant about most politicians, however, as yet I'm not aware of an alternative.

We could run the country X-Factor style but I have seen the way the general public seem to vote I don't think that's a great idea.

So IMO and it's only my opinion in extraordinary times like this the press needs to be reigned in and stories need to be stringently checked, not censored but checked for accuracy. That's not reducing free speech, it's reducing false information by having to justify what's been printed. This is what happened in WW2 and our democracy seemed to survive.

As for the story, it seems true, the context however is not, because I still don't know the reason why.

A very good and well reasoned post, summed up perfectly for me, well said

No, I don’t read the newspapers, I listen to TV and radio news and current affairs programs. Just been listening to live tv broadcast of health committee meeting, the subject of not screening incoming travelers was brought up by Yvette Cooper, Mat Hancock’s reply was strange, it went along the lines of, testing wasn’t worth doing because there’s already a huge number of confirmed virus cases already in the country.