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| Quote ="wrencat1873"
It seems a little odd that Chester was given so much time and yet Willie is "let go" after one season ?'"
Once bitten twice shy I guess.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You may be right but, that would be massively harsh on Poching, given that he had to run with the previous coaches side and hasn't had a chance to bring in an of "his own" signings.
If you look at other coaches, like Powell at Wire or Watson at Huddersfield, both struggled in their first 12 month's, especially Powell.
Chester went from have us finish 5th, 7th. 8th, 10th and 10th (hope I've got that right) and Poching seemed to be worth another season, unless of course it was some kind of player revolt or another intervention which turned this season around and the improvement was due to other people rather than Poching and Cummings ?'"
You’ve solved your own question. Chester got more time than Poching because Chester was a success in his first three seasons. Nobody wanted Chester out at that point.
Best will in the world, WP has not been great. He benefited from new coach syndrome in 2021. In 2022 he presided over three of our worst SL outings in the last ten years. Tha shambles against Cas at home, Salford away and the worst of the lot the capitulation at magic. Chester was not producing those results until his last season and even then they weren’t as bad.
Poching had a great deal of goodwill due to his past with the club but his coaching record doesn’t stand up for me and I’m on record for stating it.
I think we need to break all ties with the coaching set up of the last six years and be bold.
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| Quote ="vastman"Quote ="wrencat1873"You may be right but, that would be massively harsh on Poching, given that he had to run with the previous coaches side and hasn't had a chance to bring in an of "his own" signings.
If you look at other coaches, like Powell at Wire or Watson at Huddersfield, both struggled in their first 12 month's, especially Powell.
Chester went from have us finish 5th, 7th. 8th, 10th and 10th (hope I've got that right) and Poching seemed to be worth another season, unless of course it was some kind of player revolt or another intervention which turned this season around and the improvement was due to other people rather than Poching and Cummings ?'"
You’ve solved your own question. Chester got more time than Poching because Chester was a success in his first three seasons. Nobody wanted Chester out at that point.
Best will in the world, WP has not been great. He benefited from new coach syndrome in 2021. In 2022 he presided over three of our worst SL outings in the last ten years. Tha shambles against Cas at home, Salford away and the worst of the lot the capitulation at magic. Chester was not producing those results until his last season and even then they weren’t as bad.
Poching had a great deal of goodwill due to his past with the club but his coaching record doesn’t stand up for me and I’m on record for stating it.
I think we need to break all ties with the coaching set up of the last six years and be bold.'"
I think the club have done the correct thing.
It’s the last bit for me. We absolutely need to build a strong culture with the aim of actually winning something in the near future. The key word is professionalism.
It’s much easier for a new coaching set up to come in and install a professional set up. But we certainly need to change the perception and direction of the club.
Next season we will have new facilities, new pitch, newer training/gym facilities and we must make sure we run a professional training and coaching set up to go with that otherwise what is the point?
I think in a way Poching being part of the past regimes is a victim of circumstance in that it’s much harder to break and change a culture if you were part of it over the years. The club in a
way are recognising the need for change. Overall Poching did well and should be commended but it’s clearly been decided he’s not the man to take us forwards.
For me I think McDermott would be ideal. He’s a strong character who can instil a new culture and that’s what’s needed. Fev have had a few games but have won all but 3/4 of their games all season with a 585? Positive points difference. 2 of the losses were vs a heavy spending Leigh. Not sure how anyone can fault that at all. I’d welcome him.
Whoever the coach is we must change and be more professional along with the off field developments. If we do that I’m sure we will see players like Murphy/Hall/Eseh sign up and drag up into being challengers in the next 3-5 years.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I think the club have done the correct thing.
It’s the last bit for me. We absolutely need to build a strong culture with the aim of actually winning something in the near future. The key word is professionalism.
It’s much easier for a new coaching set up to come in and install a professional set up. But we certainly need to change the perception and direction of the club.
Next season we will have new facilities, new pitch, newer training/gym facilities and we must make sure we run a professional training and coaching set up to go with that otherwise what is the point?
I think in a way Poching being part of the past regimes is a victim of circumstance in that it’s much harder to break and change a culture if you were part of it over the years. The club in a
way are recognising the need for change. Overall Poching did well and should be commended but it’s clearly been decided he’s not the man to take us forwards.
For me I think McDermott would be ideal. He’s a strong character who can instil a new culture and that’s what’s needed. Fev have had a few games but have won all but 3/4 of their games all season with a 585? Positive points difference. 2 of the losses were vs a heavy spending Leigh. Not sure how anyone can fault that at all. I’d welcome him.
Whoever the coach is we must change and be more professional along with the off field developments. If we do that I’m sure we will see players like Murphy/Hall/Eseh sign up and drag up into being challengers in the next 3-5 years.'"
McDermotts record at Fev needs to be taken in context.
Fev & Leigh have MASSIVELY out spent all of the other clubs in the Championship (and probably Trinity) and therefore, they were "certain" to finish 1st or 2nd.
He did very well at Leeds but, not so great at London (37% win ratio).
Unless there is some influx of cash, Trinity need a wheeler dealer who can get maximum value bringing in "cheaper" players.
IF there was an investor coming in, that could help put Trinity on a level footing with some of the bigger clubs in the comp, that would change the profile of the coach that we need and that we could attract.
From really enjoying the end of season and starting to look forward to next season, everything now has a huge amount of uncertainty.
A Tony Smith type character would be ideal but, in fairness, time wont be on our side and assuming that Leigh gain promotion, there will be no soft touches in SL next season.
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| So thinking out of box and again going of what i have read on here and how somone as said he knew wp was going and that we could get somone who was too good to turn down(well i think i read somthing like that ) what about the flanagans shane is currently out of work but ticks a few box's than he could bring kyle with him who is currently playing 2nd grade over in sl but is more than good enough for sl.....maybe i am just been though
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| Quote ="Luppylad"So thinking out of box and again going of what i have read on here and how somone as said he knew wp was going and that we could get somone who was too good to turn down(well i think i read somthing like that
) what about the flanagans shane is currently out of work but ticks a few box's than he could bring kyle with him who is currently playing 2nd grade over in sl but is more than good enough for sl.....maybe i am just been
though'"
Kyle played out the end of the season as the ‘Dogs’ first choice half, and Shane has a regular gig as co-commentator on Fox … doesn’t mean he’s not interested …but the family don’t strike me as obvious candidates for relocation.
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| So it is Mark Applegarth then........... jury is out for me. No visits to new belle Vue for me.
I'm not a celebrity I'm out of here.
Hope the the new coach proves me wrong though.
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| Quote ="Divdav77"So it is Mark Applegarth then........... jury is out for me. No visits to new belle Vue for me.
I'm not a celebrity I'm out of here.
Hope the the new coach proves me wrong though.'"
We’ll get lost then you won’t be missed.
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| Quote ="Divdav77"So it is Mark Applegarth then........... jury is out for me. No visits to new belle Vue for me.
I'm not a celebrity I'm out of here.
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How can a new coach prove you wrong if you don’t go and give them the chance to. Support your team. Go to a few games at least and make your mind up based on facts and performances.
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| Quote ="Divdav77"So it is Mark Applegarth then........... jury is out for me. =#FF0000No visits to new belle Vue for me.
I'm not a celebrity I'm out of here.
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With support like that, I hope he does too.
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| Quote ="Divdav77"So it is Mark Applegarth then........... jury is out for me. No visits to new belle Vue for me.
I'm not a celebrity I'm out of here.
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| Quote ="vastman"We’ll get lost then you won’t be missed.'"
Hahaha. Look as you will note from previous posts and responses and other responses on other threads re the new coach thing, I am a Wakefield fan for life. Unfortunately it doesn’t mean that you have to agree with everything. I have been very supportive and always backed the club. When you pay for a season ticket, as some of us do I may say (not everyone) then comments should be able to be made. Even at any point.You do it as well don’t you……….?
I have a 4 hour round trip to go to all home games. I make the effort unlike some and shall continue to do so. My comments this morning were rash, I agree however, I don’t agree with the appointment. I’ve made comments previously when people have wanted to get rid of coaches, which again I didn’t agree with. We are fans and supporters of the club irrelevant of what is said on here. I am sure the reasons behind the appointment will become clear, let’s see and I am well prepared to eat humble pie and plenty of it. I am also prepared to say into next season “I told you so”. I hope it’s not the latter.
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| Quote ="Divdav77"So it is Mark Applegarth then........... jury is out for me. No visits to new belle Vue for me.
I'm not a celebrity I'm out of here.
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What a strange attitude.
Doubt you've been a regular visitor anyway.
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| Quote ="Divdav77"So it is Mark Applegarth then........... jury is out for me. No visits to new belle Vue for me.
I'm not a celebrity I'm out of here.
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Not a celebrity, just a drama queen then.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Not a celebrity, just a drama queen then.'"
Aye if you say so.
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| Quote ="Divdav77"Aye if you say so.'"
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| with Brian Mac leaving Feth, Willie must be in with a shout, if he wishes to throw his hat into the ring.
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| Quote ="phe13"with Brian Mac leaving Feth, Willie must be in with a shout, if he wishes to throw his hat into the ring.'"
Certainly good timing and local so would make sense. Would be ideal for him to continue his head coach journey.
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| Quote ="phe13"with Brian Mac leaving Feth, Willie must be in with a shout, if he wishes to throw his hat into the ring.'"
I'm not so sure he wants another gig so soon. He may decide head coach is not for him, his skills as an assistant will always be in demand.
I know expect to see him at POR in the morning
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