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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Its thank you and goodbye if true. However my fear is two fold. Firstly still highly likely we will go down and then its more than those that we lose, it will be the whole team.
Secondly the smart money appears to be on Luke Gale comming . 33 years old, injury prone and no longer doing it at Hull. Could be even worse.'"
Gale’s already 34. We should be looking elsewhere, he’s done.
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| Quote '" Quote ="vastman"Gale would be a vast improvement on Lino. Even if he missed half a season at least we wouldn’t have to watch the headless chicken. Then maybe Walker would get a go and in all honesty Walker is not great.'"
I know Lino isnt liked by many, but to me Miller is an even bigger problem. The bloke is thick, should never be the captain and cant read a game. I was bored watching his high kicks to Tom Davies it was obvious a failed tactic but he did not adapt
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"That was a dumb run by Hall into touch so lets not blame anyone else. I look forward to see a replay of that last move of the game too, to confirm that going for glory was Hall's best option rather than giving Kershaw the ball.'"
Kershaw would probably have had too far to run to get past cover defenders. What was needed was a little kick on the inside where we had players in support who would probably have dotted down - seemed to attempt this but made his mind up a little too late. Ref was as inconsistent as I've seen and seemed to ref both sides differently regarding ruck and set restarts etc. Overall, effort plenty effort but poor execution and game smarts like most games. That Catalan side were not any good really. I reckon they'd have been beat by most teams.
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| Quote ="FIL"Don't like to single players out but Kershaw just stood and watched instead of helping Hall
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Probably because the poor bloke was knackered, he did more work than all the front row combined.
I just can’t get over how inept and totally under prepared we were to day. We were slack from minute one to eighty.
The effort was never lacking but you need more than that to stay in SL. I honestly think this is the worst team in terms of actually playing RL I’ve ever seen at the club. Not a single leader amongst them.
I love effort and I can’t knock them for that. But I can go to Eastmoor for that for free. I pay my £25 to see a bit more than dumb rugby regardless of how hard they tried.
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| Quote ="vastman"Gale would be a vast improvement on Lino. Even if he missed half a season at least we wouldn’t have to watch the headless chicken. Then maybe Walker would get a go and in all honesty Walker is not great.'"
There was one out there today, that was linked with us a couple of years back and rang rings round ours. Sadly he wasn't rated at the time
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I know Lino isnt liked by many, but to me Miller is an even bigger problem. The bloke is thick, should never be the captain and cant read a game. I was bored watching his high kicks to Tom Davies it was obvious a failed tactic but he did not adapt'"
Can’t agree. In that he may be a bit dim at times but come on PB he’s MENSA compared to Lino. I’m not convinced that this is the real Lino, it’s his twin as I’m sure this one would never get a game in the NRL
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"There was one out there today, that was linked with us a couple of years back and rang rings round ours. Sadly he wasn't rated at the time'"
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| Quote ="vastman"Who?'"
Drinkwater, streets ahead of the headless chickens we have in the halves
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| Quote ="vastman"Correct so why split up the partnership. Jeez I know your incapable of seeing fault with the club but even in your world disrupting the one bright spot of the season is beyond me.
My point about Poching is simple and obvious. We are a poor team and due to the fact that we are not lacking in efforts suggests the problem lays with the coach. Or has the whole dynamic of how sport works suddenly changed?
It’s a cliché I know but there is a point where the buck stops with the coach.'"
I asked you a straight question Vasty. Don't decend into the 'you are blinded' camp that can't explain their point.
For me, switching the centres round has worked. It's not like Murphy was getting any great passes recently.
Most agree Gaskell has played better since the change.
I agree, Poaching is liable but that includes tge good stuff too. They put a move on today that put Ashurst through a gap. Clearly a planned move as Miller hasn't been able to do that in ages but has done it twice recently.
I don't think Hall or Murphy's performance has suffered since the change either.
For me. Putting Tanginoa in SR is a mistake. But as nearly the whole forum moan when he isn't you can hardly blame him for giving him a chance.
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"Drinkwater, streets ahead of the headless chickens we have in the halves'"
We tried to get him and his price was more than most could afford. Which is why he's at Catalan.
But I agree. Head and shoulders better.
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| We've not had a decent half back since Finny got too old.
Hence why we've been on a decline since. Tried to paper over the cracks by signing Brough which failed.
Whatever you're opinions on Miller or Lino the basic facts are not one can control a game and neither of them have a kicking game in open play.
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| I am sorry and I know some of you will not agree but I believe we who support the club deserve better. If we survive which is still open to debate then we cannot go through another season like the last three.
We have seen players leave and not replaced thereby weakening the squad and it’s ability to compete. We have kept our end of the bargain by buying season tickets, merchandise and all the other additional costs we incur. We should expect the club to do their bit and generate enough income to improve the team year on year. If we survive then next season will be our 25th in SL I believe and what legacy do we have in that time.
I admit I have little confidence things will improve but they should for supporters who still believe in the club.
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| We say effort i just seen the 3rd try back and where clearly langi was out of play but there was absolutely no urgency from kershaw to get to the kick in the first place,
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| Lino is awful. Just dances around. Miller is no better the majority of games. They are the route cause of or inability to win games that we should be winning.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I know Lino isnt liked by many, but to me Miller is an even bigger problem. The bloke is thick, should never be the captain and cant read a game. I was bored watching his high kicks to Tom Davies it was obvious a failed tactic but he did not adapt'"
I have made my opinion known many times about the untouchable golden boy Miller
Not the worst stand off I have seen in a Trinity shirt but definitely the most overrated and I have supported Trinity since 75 as for Lino I would not pay him in washers
Big Dave was hopeless today and Battye looks like he would struggle for fitness at the Dog & Duck
Poaching is a club legend as a player but he is way out of this depth
I do not know if Brian McDermott applied for the job or not but if he did someone needs to take a long hard look in the mirror and give his head a wobble
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| Quote ="vastman"That’s exactly what I meant we have no nouse and it not just the half backs.
Also Poching is not up to the job. Please explain why anyone in there right mind would tinker with the back line! Why break up a partnership that has done so well this year, sorry but it’s idiotic imho.
As for Lino, one of the worst HB I’ve ever seen at the club, what people see in him is beyond me. He’s not in the same class as Finn or Smith or even Brad Walker. When will we see past the accent!'"
I don’t think Lino is bad, far from it, however I do think we were sold a false dream when he was signed.
It was made out like we were bringing in a controlling half the line of which we hadn’t seen since Finn.
I said at the time on here he was more of a strike half than an orchestrator, it was clear to see from anyone that had seen him play before he signed however Chester seemed to think different.
Miller had Lino simply don’t work both need an organiser to play with them.
Next year there is the opportunity to resolve that with Milky moving on.
I’m not sure who they go for to replace Miller that fits the bill however Williams has been released by Canberra and he is the kind of player we need.
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| Quote ="jonh"I don’t think Lino is bad, far from it, however I do think we were sold a false dream when he was signed.
It was made out like we were bringing in a controlling half the line of which we hadn’t seen since Finn.
I said at the time on here he was more of a strike half than an orchestrator, it was clear to see from anyone that had seen him play before he signed however Chester seemed to think different.
Miller had Lino simply don’t work both need an organiser to play with them.
Next year there is the opportunity to resolve that with Milky moving on.
I’m not sure who they go for to replace Miller that fits the bill however Williams has been released by Canberra and he is the kind of player we need.'"
I reckon we will wait to see what turns up after the World Cup regarding some players as it’s easier to get players visas sorted after playing in a World Cup, it’s some weird loop hole apparently. Who knows there might be some Gun NSW player who has a breakthrough tournament. I think Williams would be a decent option but didn’t he turn us down before we signed Lino.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"I reckon we will wait to see what turns up after the World Cup regarding some players as it’s easier to get players visas sorted after playing in a World Cup, it’s some weird loop hole apparently. Who knows there might be some Gun NSW player who has a breakthrough tournament. I think Williams would be a decent option but didn’t he turn us down before we signed Lino.'"
Think we need to see what league where in first
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Think we need to see what league where in first'"
Yes 100%, that’s why it could actually work out well. If our SL status goes right down to the wire, each week we could be losing out on potential targets. With this been a WC year it could unearth potential players who might not of got the light shone on them for the tier 2 nations.
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| I have posted on another topic that Hall is still relatively inexperienced which comes with young players. This in the game yesterday cost us a chance to draw level when he failed to pass after the hooter sounded despite having support on both sides. I suppose this falls into the lack of ability throughout the team, he has a chance to learn but for others maybe a little too late.
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| Quote ="vastman"
As for Lino, one of the worst HB I’ve ever seen at the club, what people see in him is beyond me. He’s not in the same class as Finn or Smith or even Brad Walker. When will we see past the accent!'" been saying that since the day he arrived , his only saving grace was his kick percentage and he hasn’t even been doing particularly well at that
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Taking on the line 1 out of ten,
Creating a try or break - averages about 1 every three games
Kicks from hand in play - I can kick it aimlessly down field
Has to be not only the worst half back I ve seen but also in the top three of overseas signings
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| Quote ="vastman"
As for Lino, one of the worst HB I’ve ever seen at the club, what people see in him is beyond me. He’s not in the same class as Finn or Smith or even Brad Walker. When will we see past the accent!'" been saying that since the day he arrived , his only saving grace was his kick percentage and he hasn’t even been doing particularly well at that
Tackling - turnstile
Taking on the line 1 out of ten,
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Has to be not only the worst half back I ve seen but also in the top three of overseas signings
At least miller tries his heart out , and occasionally has a fantastic game - can only think the wigan rumours were created by his agent -
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| Felt so strongly posted it twice lol
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| Last two games his stats are
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| Think looking at some recent events not only does it put life into perspective but im led to believe that alot of the lads are still very close with danny k and also with jack , one player in picticuler who been put down by some matbe not on here but on social media,the lads are only human and will of been affected so think its more than right to lay off for this week,
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