I agree with most of the post but Fifita did play against KR. He started at Prop. Sorry to be picky.

Sorry I meant they didn't play together, that was the point I was trying to make, fail on my part

Ah, yes I get what you mean now and falls in line with the rest of the post. I should have clicked on really. I think you might be right though, two egos in one team.

Must admit you'd think so but stranger things have happened.

If he left now why would no fee be involved he is under contract with us

I thought that.

Look at it this way, if we get a fee we didn't want him to leave, if we don't then I suspect we did.

Assuming of course any of this is true.

I talk to Joe most days, he laughed this one off when someone put it on the Cas forum the other week, which is the reason I said it wasn`t true to start with.

Who knows where he will be next season though, he is OOC with us so I believe free to speak to other clubs from June.

Probably the 2 + 2 = 5 reasoning used by the site that published the rumour, one almost certainly started by his agent.

I'm sorry April fools Day has gone. Crowther is not even Dewsbury standard. Can't even compare the 2.

Never said he was ! The reply was to the insinuations that Westerman wanted to leave . He’s our best forward at the min .... as for Crowther he’s never been given a chance to develop at LF and he’s def not a hooker , but giving his all while being asked to play there .

Lad has put his hand up and playing a position that’s alien to him and he’s getting bagged, Jesus wept. Crowther will never be a world beater but he’s a damn good SL standard second rower who is no nonsense in defence and runs his blood to water for our club, something players like fifita want to take a look at, imagine is crowther was his size. Not Crowthers fault he’s having to do this role because of our coach’s clear inabilities to find a hooker during the off season to try get the team moving forward.

I don't remember anyone saying we needed a hooker at the end or during the closed season.

If Kyle Wood was fit the Crowther criticism would be academic as he wouldn't get selected there.

You're a complete Bell.

Brave thing to do newgroundb-4 cas to come on here and criticise J C. Getting to think my self what does he do .The only time I heard his name called by the commentators when, he was offside in the first half when we had Catalan in there 25 He as improved a lot ,but no way a stand in hooker maybe a 21 squad member .But not a week in week out 17 starter. Think the problem why our forwards seem to have trouble going forward .is when you got J C and Batch on the park at the same time you only got 4 forwards who have any chance of making ground , as J C and Batch are to light weight to make ground when near our line .If you put that along with 30+ forward you can see why we tire in the second half.Ready for flac but come to the point were watching Wakey is putting me of watching R L because every other team looks sharper and fitted than we do

Think Wakey would put the most ardent fan of watching at the moment, and that's the most worrying factor at the mo.

If the club are not careful staying away will become a habit.

Jeez like shallow Al not sure what you guys see in Crowther. Strong running 2nd rower. Dear me I want some of your funny cigs

[:2g7q3bnpquote="alegend"Brave thing to do newgroundb-4 cas to come on here and criticise J C.

Brave thing to do what a load of tosh! There's no bravery hiding behind a keyboard

I echo RedWhiteandBlue. It's not brave. Gaz NGBC has constantly slated him. At 6ft 2" & 16stones he's not a hooker nor does he want to be. Both hookers have had on and off Injuries for months. Jordan has been asked to help and has and has done a good job covering. Hence the word covering. V Wigan he played 30 mins at 9 and it was 6-6 and really should of been 6-0 to us. For 50 mins we had a recognised 9 and lost 28-0. Was that all Josh fault? No. As a middle which he is he was developing well until having to constantly cover at 9. The problem Jordan has with 'some' fans is they watch the games as a fan for entertainment and analyse it in that way too. Stand out moments play a big part in that analysis. A significant amount of work in defensive structures goes unnoticed by fans but not by players. That's why the players want Jordan in the side. You can't get a better endorsement than that unless of course players are wrong. As far as Westerman is concerned he's been a great signing. He's been a standout player who can play anywhere in the middle. I'm not sure what he's doing next season but I'm sure he'll be an asset for us or someone else.

REDWHITEANDBLUE all I have said J C as improved a lot he is a 21 squad player but should not be in the 17 every week .Do not see any thing wrong with that .Some people on here are making him out to be a world beater.,The one thing that is holding him back is pace .As he gets better let's hope he gets stronger and faster .There are a few players who should not be in the team every week ,and people come on here and say so .Sorry but that's we're we are .As for hiding behind a key board .Watched Wakey for over 60 year so there are no rose tinted glasses just say it as i see it.Even Daddy Cool said i did not no what I was talking about when Mr Chester was doing is panic buy act in close season before last season started.Isaid that Mr Chester was bringing in rubbish and he was putting the team back 2 year Think I have been proved right because the only player out of that bunch who is going ok is Westerman ,and the only time we looked any good was when we got the team out that had been here for the last 3 year .Sorry RED WHITEANDBLUE .I am as peeved of as any body at the way we are playing at the moment and faiding in the second half but if I can take it from Daddy Cool you got no chance it's Water of a Ducks back

I do like Jordy a lot, and his commitment to the cause is second to none.

One thing though, he is not a hooker. He has stepped in well and gave it his all.

FWIW, I don’t see Josh Wood being over creative there though, too, which as someone brought in there specially, is a concern. It’s a bit like where we were at the moment, when we had Stuart Howarth.

The rumours if true, regarding Westerman, would mean the 13 shirt is up for grabs, which would be the ideal opportunity for Jordy, but also maybe for Brad Walker or even Connor Bailey.

However with a possible new prop coming in, then that could mean Tinny Arona, who for me, is not a prop, could stake a claim, as like Jordy, runs his body to water, week in week out.

Potentially here there is competition for places, mainly in the back row, and sadly, if TA doesn’t get a regular spot in the 13, do you even look at that quota spot.

For me, quota spots should be in the 17 every week, but on merit, and the right balance on the squad


Another dilemma for those making them calls

Jeez, JC steps in to play out of position and gets slated??

We have much bigger problems than that, or have we just found a convenient scapegoat?

Steps up to play out of position ? He’s a professional player and plays where he is picked - realistically if everyone was fit he wouldn’t be in the starting 17.

Guy gives 100 percent but is a workmanlike back row forward who’s major attribute is his tackling - as a hooker tbh he would be ok if our other hooker was pacy skill full etc but him and woods have too many of the same attributes

On your hypothesis then maybe we should play everyone out of position and see how bad they are too.

I do not think anyone is slating Crowther, just being realistic. He is not the player some people are making out . He is a hard working back rower with plenty of heart and worthy of a place in the squad.
I can see him moving successfully into the front row eventually.