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| Well it was nice watching something different than Miller’s crash balls to Ashurst. Notice JW is absent so Crowther to start at 9.
Harsh on Rocky/Jowitt. Two of the only few who looked remotely interested post lockdown. In my opinion of course, before Little Willy pops up.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Well if you look at The Wakefield squad it looks the strongest its been since lockdown. No more excuses, I would say Mr Chester.
I see on Skytbet we are getting 20 pts start. A couple of season ago I would have put a large amount on us with that handicap. Especially considering that Wigan are due to face their old enemy, the Saints in the cup in four days time. However even with our crap form and the fact I would expect Wigan to take their foot off the gas if they are well in front I still think we will keep the score to within 20pts.
If we cant even do that, then I would expect Chester to fall on his sword if he has an ounce of self respect'"
Why does it look strong when we have Walker, Johnstone, BJB, Fifita all playing first game for ages (or second for BJB)
The fact that we can only name 20 players for a 21 man squad shows how busted the team is.
It's very likely some will be playing injured.
So the no excuses comment...... Against Wigan at near full strength.... Is a bit premature.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"He's a hooker isnt he?'"
His first choice positon is loose forward.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Why does it look strong when we have Walker, Johnstone, BJB, Fifita all playing first game for ages (or second for BJB)
The fact that we can only name 20 players for a 21 man squad shows how busted the team is.
It's very likely some will be playing injured.
So the no excuses comment...... Against Wigan at near full strength.... Is a bit premature.'"
Unbelievable, making excuses for Chester already. It is a near full strength team, not sure how you can argue with that. Those players are professionals who train full time with the squad and they are all fit to play otherwise they would not be playing. Who knows if they are carrying niggles but if they are not fit to play then putting player welfare at risk is another bad move by Chester that I would seriously question.
Are the likes of Greensmith not available to be put into the squad? In the past teams have even named players that they know for a fact wont play even when injured to make up the 21, strikes me as another excuse to use if we are embarrassed again in front of the Sky cameras.
I actually have a feeling that we may pull off a win this Friday by the way.
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| Shame about Max, again.
However, Rocky am not too sure. He isn't probably tall enough for the modern demands of a full back and sadly doesn't have a game controlling handling and kicking game so have no idea where his best place is and it's always a risk running the wrath of parents.
I also think some missing maybe still furloughed?
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| Quote ="Manuel"Shame about Max, again.
However, Rocky am not too sure. He isn't probably tall enough for the modern demands of a full back and sadly doesn't have a game controlling handling and kicking game so have no idea where his best place is and it's always a risk running the wrath of parents.
I also think some missing maybe still furloughed?'"
I don't think the height is an issue when it comes to fullback, it hasn't held back the likes of Quinlan, Bowen, Hanbury etc from making a career at FB.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Why does it look strong when we have Walker, Johnstone, BJB, Fifita all playing first game for ages (or second for BJB)
The fact that we can only name 20 players for a 21 man squad shows how busted the team is.
It's very likely some will be playing injured.
So the no excuses comment...... Against Wigan at near full strength.... Is a bit premature.'"
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I think you will find the only reason 20 were named is just an admin error. The squad is no more busted than Wigans or most other teams.
According to some , both Jowitt and Rocky are dropped, not injured. So unless Mopsey can confirm otherwise, thats another two names for you to add to your squad.
There arealso a few others he could name just to get to 21 who are not injured as far as I am aware
As for players comming back, BJB has had the longest lay off regarding the 4 you mention and he did OK last week.
Walker played not too long ago so I expect he will also be something like. Same for Tom,
Only one that worries me is Fifita. However he can be given a couple of short bursts, so lack of match fitness could easily be managed.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"I don't think the height is an issue when it comes to fullback, it hasn't held back the likes of Quinlan, Bowen, Hanbury etc from making a career at FB.'"
Think rockys best position is full back , however we do have 3 good full backs plus gigot all of whom have flaws in their games. In reality we really only need 2 of the 4 in that position and if I were Chester I’d be trying to move 2 of the 4 on to free up some money for a scrum half
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Unbelievable, making excuses for Chester already. It is a near full strength team, not sure how you can argue with that. Those players are professionals who train full time with the squad and they are all fit to play otherwise they would not be playing. Who knows if they are carrying niggles but if they are not fit to play then putting player welfare at risk is another bad move by Chester that I would seriously question.
Are the likes of Greensmith not available to be put into the squad? In the past teams have even named players that they know for a fact wont play even when injured to make up the 21, strikes me as another excuse to use if we are embarrassed again in front of the Sky cameras.
I actually have a feeling that we may pull off a win this Friday by the way.'" t b f on bbc web site it does say Chester only has 20 fit players but I find that hard to believe - so gwaze, adding, Croft, Bailey, Hampshire jowitt batch kirmond all injured ?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Well it was nice watching something different than Miller’s crash balls to Ashurst. Notice JW is absent so Crowther to start at 9.
Harsh on Rocky/Jowitt. Two of the only few who looked remotely interested post lockdown. In my opinion of course, before Little Willy pops up.'"
To be fair Wilzay I'm going to pick one of your comments & correct you. I don't do this normally Like most on here. I'm not going to insult you either Like others on here. But I've always said right from the start Jowitt is a very good ball handler Catches the ball probably as good as any fullback in SL in & he is only one of a few who has always been keen in everymatch he's played. But to me, his defence is awful so he's not "unlucky" like people are saying. Chester has probably seen enough & decided that he's not a first choice player probably thought that for some time so when other players are fit Jowitt doesn't get a look in. Again I don't know I'm only surmising.
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| Quote ="Little willy"To be fair Wilzay I'm going to pick one of your comments & correct you. I don't do this normally Like most on here. I'm not going to insult you either Like others on here. But I've always said right from the start Jowitt is a very good ball handler Catches the ball probably as good as any fullback in SL in & he is only one of a few who has always been keen in everymatch he's played. But to me, his defence is awful so he's not "unlucky" like people are saying. Chester has probably seen enough & decided that he's not a first choice player probably thought that for some time so when other players are fit Jowitt doesn't get a look in. Again I don't know I'm only surmising.'"
Must have a team of awful defenders then because MJ's in no worse than many I could mention.
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| I know the club has had more positive Covid-19 cases in the last couple of days so maybe that’s restricted us to 20 available for Wigan
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Must have a team of awful defenders then because MJ's in no worse than many I could mention.'"
Better look more closely then 1315 and you'll see it
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| Homme Vaste. Thanks for confirming my point about Rocky at fullback. The players you mention "having made a career at fullback" . He hasn't
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| So are the lads dropped the ones that dived out of the way of tackles?
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| What’s happened to rocky
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| Quote ="cosmicat"What’s happened to rocky'"
He lost the first fight on points, but won the title in the rematch.
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| Quote ="Little willy"Better look more closely then 1315 and you'll see it'"
What you and others in here should be doing, is getting behind players such as MJ. He always answers the call despite being dropped or overlooked more times than I care to remember. From the dozens of times I've seen him play, he's never 'ducked' a tackle.
When he first broke into the first team he looked a class act at FB, his linking up with TJ in particular was a joy to watch.
I'm not just alluding to MJ , the knocking of some of the younger players is a bad call to me.
That's the difference between us and clubs like Wigan, we knock younger players, and drop them, because they aren't an instant hit, whereas Wigan bring them on slowly and encourage them
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I know the club has had more positive Covid-19 cases in the last couple of days so maybe that’s restricted us to 20 available for Wigan'"
Todays RFL update says 566 clear tests, 2 players and 2 non playing staff across the 11 clubs.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"What you and others in here should be doing, is getting behind players such as MJ. He always answers the call despite being dropped or overlooked more times than I care to remember. From the dozens of times I've seen him play, he's never 'ducked' a tackle.
When he first broke into the first team he looked a class act at FB, his linking up with TJ in particular was a joy to watch.
I'm not just alluding to MJ , the knocking of some of the younger players is a bad call to me.
That's the difference between us and clubs like Wigan, we knock younger players, and drop them, because they aren't an instant hit, whereas [uWigan bring them on slowly and encourage them[/u'"
And so do their fans.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"What you and others in here should be doing, is getting behind players such as MJ. He always answers the call despite being dropped or overlooked more times than I care to remember. From the dozens of times I've seen him play, he's never 'ducked' a tackle.
When he first broke into the first team he looked a class act at FB, his linking up with TJ in particular was a joy to watch.
I'm not just alluding to MJ , the knocking of some of the younger players is a bad call to me.
That's the difference between us and clubs like Wigan, we knock younger players, and drop them, because they aren't an instant hit, whereas Wigan bring them on slowly and encourage them'"
How many years has he been playing fullback in the 1st team. He answers the call because he wants to play I'm not arguing that, but that doesn't mean he has to play. As for ducking a tackle you really have to watch the games he's ever played in he's always ducked a tackle. As for a class fullback, If you looked & read my previous post I said Jowitts other play is great but you really have to look at his defence & it's there plain to see, He cant defend & for that he can't be the last line of our defence, Watch the last 2 games. When did I knock other younger players? All I was stating was a fact that I'd seen for the last few years If you looked back over the last 4 or 5 years I've always said the same I got a lot of stick from quite a few people on here saying that I was talking rubbish but people are starting to see what I was trying to say I don't dislike Max it's just that I don't feel he's a SL fullback. Just one more answer if you looked on the Wigan website they slag a lot of there players off young or old, But then how many Wigan players don't make it.... Not many
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Todays RFL update says 566 clear tests, 2 players and 2 non playing staff across the 11 clubs.'"
Or another report: Of the 562 results, there have been 558 negative results, and four positives, spread over three clubs.
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| Quote ="Little willy"How many years has he been playing fullback in the 1st team. He answers the call because he wants to play I'm not arguing that, but that doesn't mean he has to play. As for ducking a tackle you really have to watch the games he's ever played in he's always ducked a tackle. As for a class fullback, If you looked & read my previous post I said Jowitts other play is great but you really have to look at his defence & it's there plain to see, He cant defend & for that he can't be the last line of our defence, Watch the last 2 games. When did I knock other younger players? All I was stating was a fact that I'd seen for the last few years If you looked back over the last 4 or 5 years I've always said the same I got a lot of stick from quite a few people on here saying that I was talking rubbish but people are starting to see what I was trying to say I don't dislike Max it's just that I don't feel he's a SL fullback. Just one more answer if you looked on the Wigan website they slag a lot of there players off young or old, But then how many Wigan players don't make it.... Not many'"
I seem to remember a former Trinity favourite at full back, who appeared to be late getting to the opposition try scorer, Richard Mathers, ring any bells?
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