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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"You're avoiding the question.
Budget being the most important thing of all, the SL season finished on Saturday officially. That means families with bills and children to prioritise have to find £55 per month (per person) to find.
I've sorted my ticket already, so I don't have to worry but the comment at the end of last season in jest or not about selling more season tickets is absolutely laughable at these prices.
So I will reiterate it would just be interesting to see how teams like Wakefield are trying to mimic the NRL deals and do we ever see Adult ticket pricing ever dropping?'"
Why would you drop the current price and effectively sell the same (or hopefully improved) product for less money ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Why would you drop the current price and effectively sell the same (or hopefully improved) product for less money ?'"
Indeed. Not sure how anyone hopes to do what Salford did this year by selling cheaper season tickets. ATEOTD how the hell do football mad families cope.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Why would you drop the current price and effectively sell the same (or hopefully improved) product for less money ?'"
Why would the club drop the price to a more affordable price? It's all speculation obviously but if the numbers were to increase we have more people to sell to, in the club shop, on the day in the ground and more people to market to.
Maybe I'm just not thinking about the short term enough.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I'm not sure that comparing prices for watching RL in Australia is relevant.
Trinity's season tickets are comparable with other clubs in the UK and we know where cheap ticket offers got us last time around
It's everyone's prerogative whether or not to watch or do what ever they want but, if we all pay 10% less than there would be a direct effect on salary cap spend so, for the club it's all about balance and maximising their income accross the board.'"
Not that anyone really wants to watch them but I could currently get a season ticket at Huddersfield for £80! The question still stands, it would be interesting to see what other clubs are doing to compete with that.
This does also outline that lower prices do not mean more fans. I'm just genuinely curious about what clubs are doing to try and compete with each other on pricing and attendances.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Not that anyone really wants to watch them but I could currently get a season ticket at Huddersfield for £80! The question still stands, it would be interesting to see what other clubs are doing to compete with that.
This does also outline that lower prices do not mean more fans. I'm just genuinely curious about what clubs are doing to try and compete with each other on pricing and attendances.'"
Go get one then, you obviously have a great deal of love for the Huddersfield club.
Do you know how much money Davy pours into the club to allow them to spend up to the cap and play out of that shiny stadium, or do you think it comes from there £80 seasons tickets?
Take a look around old boy, nobody in the league is trying to compete with Hudds £5.70 a game value, they are all relatively similar pricing outside of them, maybe you should question why Hudds are devaluing the game that much that you have to ask these questions?
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| The Dreadnought you may recall that one of the first things Glover did is he dropped season ticket prices to £125, this included seated tickets (I know as I sit in the East stand). I guess season ticket sales went up around 1,000 or so on prior years. We also had challenges with lots of free and rumoured fake tickets so attendances went up notably. Did we get something like 8k for Catalans at home on a Saturday in 2013 (the day I got married)?
The impact is hard to measure since Glover and Elston overspent on the squad and other things so the income didn't match expenditure.
More recently for the last game of the season against London weren't entrance prices dropped to around £15/ticket and we got a crowd of around 6k. Yet it is hard to gauge the effect due to significance of the match too.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Not that anyone really wants to watch them but I could currently get a season ticket at Huddersfield for £80! The question still stands, it would be interesting to see what other clubs are doing to compete with that. '"
Watching a decent side anywhere is better than watching a cr@p Huddersfield side in a soulless 25% full ground.
You will be aware that Mr Davy pumps loadsamoney in to keep Huddersfield afloat and unfortunately we dont have that luxury.
And getting back to lower prices = higher attendances, take a look at just how many they get through the turnstiles for their home games.
I know that not everyone can afford ST or be able to attend every game and that is a real shame for those that cant.
Even if you (or others) cant make all the games, the kids tickets are well worth getting, especially as they cover away games and then it's a case of picking and choosing which games you can make.
MC & CB have done a great job since we were in the mire a few years back and none of us want to go through that type of uncertainty again and I think you have to trust that they are getting it just about right.
Always worth looking into and suggesting ways that things could improve but, IMO, cheaper tickets would be a backward step.
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| Quote ="wildshot"The Dreadnought you may recall that one of the first things Glover did is he dropped season ticket prices to £125, this included seated tickets (I know as I sit in the East stand). I guess season ticket sales went up around 1,000 or so on prior years. We also had challenges with lots of free and rumoured fake tickets so attendances went up notably. Did we get something like 8k for Catalans at home on a Saturday in 2013 (the day I got married)?
The impact is hard to measure since Glover and Elston overspent on the squad and other things so the income didn't match expenditure.
More recently for the last game of the season against London weren't entrance prices dropped to around £15/ticket and we got a crowd of around 6k. Yet it is hard to gauge the effect due to significance of the match too.'"
Yeah the last game of the season was only £15 but it was a rearranged game to the Friday and it was on SKY which does affect attendances. If it had been played on the Sunday I'd have expected significantly more speccis attending.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Not that anyone really wants to watch them but I could currently get a season ticket at Huddersfield for £80! The question still stands, it would be interesting to see what other clubs are doing to compete with that.
This does also outline that lower prices do not mean more fans. I'm just genuinely curious about what clubs are doing to try and compete with each other on pricing and attendances.'"
And their owner subsidises that club to the tune of £1million per year.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"You're avoiding the question.
Budget being the most important thing of all, the SL season finished on Saturday officially. That means families with bills and children to prioritise have to find £55 per month (per person) to find.
I've sorted my ticket already, so I don't have to worry but the comment at the end of last season in jest or not about selling more season tickets is absolutely laughable at these prices.
So I will reiterate it would just be interesting to see how teams like Wakefield are trying to mimic the NRL deals and do we ever see Adult ticket pricing ever dropping?'"
No I don't see the price dropping unless the next tv deal is massive. I'm beginning to think you a previous owner
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Go get one then, you obviously have a great deal of love for the Huddersfield club.
Do you know how much money Davy pours into the club to allow them to spend up to the cap and play out of that shiny stadium, or do you think it comes from there £80 seasons tickets?
Take a look around old boy, nobody in the league is trying to compete with Hudds £5.70 a game value, they are all relatively similar pricing outside of them, maybe you should question why Hudds are devaluing the game that much that you have to ask these questions?'"
I don't have a love for Huddersfield, I just get free tickets and the odd invitation. Huddersfield have the luxury of only paying towards 30% of their ground costs which I'm presuming is one of the main reasons for them been able to offer a reduced price.
This is where your hatred for me is blinding you from reading my point. I've already sorted the money for my ticket but I'm saying comments like we had at the end of the season about being able to spend the cap if more season tickets were sold (in jest or not) are laughable when charging the prices they do, a lot of people simply cannot justify pricing like this, especially when other clubs blow us out of the water.
Apart from the 3 monthly payments of 70 odd quid we don't even offer any sort of monthly price. You can get a ticket at KR for £19.99 per months, with £20 upfront. Much more realistic for working class families in the North...
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| Quote ="Daddycool"No I don't see the price dropping unless the next tv deal is massive. I'm beginning to think you a previous owner'"
Thanks for clarifying, I've never had any affiliation with the club apart from being a fan.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"I don't have a love for Huddersfield, I just get free tickets and the odd invitation. Huddersfield have the luxury of only paying towards 30% of their ground costs which I'm presuming is one of the main reasons for them been able to offer a reduced price.
This is where your hatred for me is blinding you from reading my point. I've already sorted the money for my ticket but I'm saying comments like we had at the end of the season about being able to spend the cap if more season tickets were sold (in jest or not) are laughable when charging the prices they do, a lot of people simply cannot justify pricing like this, especially when other clubs blow us out of the water.
Apart from the 3 monthly payments of 70 odd quid we don't even offer any sort of monthly price. You can get a ticket at KR for £19.99 per months, with £20 upfront. Much more realistic for working class families in the North...'"
Again football families seem to cope.
Have further to travel n all.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"I don't have a love for Huddersfield, I just get free tickets and the odd invitation. Huddersfield have the luxury of only paying towards 30% of their ground costs which I'm presuming is one of the main reasons for them been able to offer a reduced price.
This is where your hatred for me is blinding you from reading my point. I've already sorted the money for my ticket but I'm saying comments like we had at the end of the season about being able to spend the cap if more season tickets were sold (in jest or not) are laughable when charging the prices they do, a lot of people simply cannot justify pricing like this, especially when other clubs blow us out of the water.
Apart from the 3 monthly payments of 70 odd quid we don't even offer any sort of monthly price. You can get a ticket at KR for £19.99 per months, with £20 upfront. Much more realistic for working class families in the North...'"
You think the reason they are able to offer season tickets at £80 is because they only pay 30% towards the rental of there stadium? Nothing to do with the million pound a year Ken Davy throws at them no?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Again football families seem to cope.
Have further to travel n all.'"
And at the risk of getting called a troll it's all relative, most football families aren't travelling to sit in a shed Willzay, not to say I don't love Belle Vue.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"And at the risk of getting called a troll it's all relative, most football families aren't travelling to sit in a shed Willzay, not to say I don't love Belle Vue.'"
Fair contradiction there.
So your gripe is with the "quality of BV" rather than the price then, at least we are clear about your gripe.
As said earlier, I'd take BV with all of its faults, over the empty, soulless John Smiths stadium, all day long, which is why they struggle to sell tickets at £80, never mind a more realistic price.
At £80 a pop for season tickets, we'd have to be getting 15000 a week at BV - you do the math.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Fair contradiction there.
So your gripe is with the "quality of BV" rather than the price then, at least we are clear about your gripe.
As said earlier, I'd take BV with all of its faults, over the empty, soulless John Smiths stadium, all day long, which is why they struggle to sell tickets at £80, never mind a more realistic price.
At £80 a pop for season tickets, we'd have to be getting 15000 a week at BV - you do the math.'"
It's one of the factors absolutely, I won't deny that but I am asking what the club (and other clubs in SL) are doing in the background to compete with NRL prices, £80 season tickets and £19.99pm plans. All of which I am not speculating about, I'm providing facts.
More realistic pricing or payment options to me *key word* [ucould [/u bring more fans, shop sales and match day profit on consumables.
Does anyone know how many season tickets we sold last year?
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| I'm sure MC has said in the past that the in-ground sales (booze, food etc) don't see a significant raise in revenue for matches that have cheap tickets.
We've tried cheap tickets before and went bust, Bradford did the same when they were in SL.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"It's one of the factors absolutely, I won't deny that but I am asking what the club (and other clubs in SL) are doing in the background to compete with NRL prices, £80 season tickets and £19.99pm plans. All of which I am not speculating about, I'm providing facts.
More realistic pricing or payment options to me *key word* [ucould [/u bring more fans, shop sales and match day profit on consumables.
Does anyone know how many season tickets we sold last year?'"
It's not the number of people. It's the income they bring.
Cheap tickets needs to bring a significant increase.
Also, your point about competing isn't valid.
Our prices have no relevance to NRL or even other super league teams. We are competing against the other things that people in Wakefield spend money on.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It's not the number of people. It's the income they bring.
Cheap tickets needs to bring a significant increase.
Also, your point about competing isn't valid.
Our prices have no relevance to NRL or even other super league teams. We are competing against the other things that people in Wakefield spend money on.'"
Why isn't it valid?
Fundamentally everythingthat happens at Wakefield including pricing, facilities, players, staff, fans, on field performance, even the car park count towards the only thing any fan should care about and that's making a success of Wakefield Trinity.
So comparing other clubs in the same sport IMO is 100% valid.
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| Sick to the back teeth of people digging the club out over ticket prices. It costs what its costs - if you don't like it don't come. It is quite clear the price points have been set to fit in with the business plan that is keeping this club alive. I'm sure the club would like to play all home games at 3pm on Sunday or any fixed time by SKY call the shots and pay a significant wedge to the lcub for the rights to do that. If anyone is able to plug the approx. £2m funding gap per annum required to tell Sky to do one then please stump up now. Otherwise shut up.
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| Quote ="wakefieldwall"Sick to the back teeth of people digging the club out over ticket prices. It costs what its costs - if you don't like it don't come. It is quite clear the price points have been set to fit in with the business plan that is keeping this club alive. I'm sure the club would like to play all home games at 3pm on Sunday or any fixed time by SKY call the shots and pay a significant wedge to the lcub for the rights to do that. If anyone is able to plug the approx. £2m funding gap per annum required to tell Sky to do one then please stump up now. Otherwise shut up.'"
Funnily enough that's not how forums work.
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| Why should we be competing with NRL prices anyway? I reckon 75% of Wakefield don’t even know what the NRL is, let alone the ticket prices.
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"Why isn't it valid?
Fundamentally everythingthat happens at Wakefield including pricing, facilities, players, staff, fans, on field performance, even the car park count towards the only thing any fan should care about and that's making a success of Wakefield Trinity.
So comparing other clubs in the same sport IMO is 100% valid.'"
Your point about competing with The NRL isn't valid because, although they play the same sport, we aren't in competition with them for attracting fans or season ticket holders.
Competing with Huddersfield may be important but, with the possible exception of yourself, I dont know too many fans that like visiting The John Smiths stadium, let alone want to watch them instead of Trinity. ,therefore, even they are barely "competition".
From where this thread started off with a simple question about whether Platinum "early bird" tickets ceased this Saturday, which they do, we have drifted wildly.
You started off complaining that Trinity haven't reduced their prices and have drifted further since then and you appear to have a different agenda to the rest of us.
The bottom line is that you either watch Trinity or dont, it's a free world
DC has indicated how you can reduce the cost, either by purchasing a ST or buying in advance and if you prefer Shudds, then, crack on.
Personally, I dont see why anyone would but, it's a free world.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Your point about competing with The NRL isn't valid because, although they play the same sport, we aren't in competition with them for attracting fans or season ticket holders.
Competing with Huddersfield may be important but, with the possible exception of yourself, I dont know too many fans that like visiting The John Smiths stadium, let alone want to watch them instead of Trinity. ,therefore, even they are barely "competition".
From where this thread started off with a simple question about whether Platinum "early bird" tickets ceased this Saturday, which they do, we have drifted wildly.
You started off complaining that Trinity haven't reduced their prices and have drifted further since then and you appear to have a different agenda to the rest of us.
The bottom line is that you either watch Trinity or dont, it's a free world
DC has indicated how you can reduce the cost, either by purchasing a ST or buying in advance and if you prefer Shudds, then, crack on.
Personally, I dont see why anyone would but, it's a free world.'"
And my point on KR offering monthly payments. Where do you stand on that one?
Whilst I do think they are overpriced (including the D as it seems as I initially wrote overprice lol) my agenda isn't "bring those costs down this instant" it's "It would just be interesting to see how teams like Wakefield are trying to mimic the NRL deals and do we ever see Adult ticket pricing ever dropping?"
I get it's all in the background for a reason and in no way am I saying it should be public knowledge but
DC mentioned a state payment to Melbourne, have we approached our alternative for something similar?
Melbourne have big name sponsors, have we approached companies like (sticking with Melbourne) Suzuki? (Although I have pointed out I really liked the Asus deal)
Do we intend on offering monthly plans similar to KR?
It's all relative IMO and I don't know how many more times I need to point out, I have already sorted my season ticket.
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