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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"So have you made him an increased offer?'"
I sincerely hope you aren't expecting a detailed response to that from DC.......
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"So have you made him an increased offer?'"
I’m not going to get embroiled in detailed discussions on this.
But there is a lot of mis-truths out there and I told his agent last week, that I’m happy to go public with the whole saga if he is. Talks are ongoing but things have changed since the offer was made on April 30th and ignored for 70 days!
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I’m not going to get embroiled in detailed discussions on this.
But there is a lot of mis-truths out there and I told his agent last week, that I’m happy to go public with the whole saga if he is. Talks are ongoing but things have changed since the offer was made on April 30th and ignored for 70 days!'"
Bye Bye Rocky
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| Quote ="TheDreadnought"icon_wave.gif Bye Bye Rocky
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Nobody is bigger than the club and that sounds like a very very poor attitude.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"I sincerely hope you aren't expecting a detailed response to that from DC.......
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Seems he did.....
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I’m not going to get embroiled in detailed discussions on this.
But there is a lot of mis-truths out there and I told his agent last week, that I’m happy to go public with the whole saga if he is. Talks are ongoing but things have changed since the offer was made on April 30th and ignored for 70 days!'"
I certainly didn’t want major details, sorry if that was the impression. I was just interested to know whether negotiations were still happening and there was a chance he might stay.
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| Interesting reading the off the record rumour page. Which tbf isn't far off with accuracy that another club has made rocky a contract offer which was less than we had. Both he and more so his agent. Show me the money. Think he's worth more.. Hope we keep him but if his agent thinks he's worth more then fair enough.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Seems he did.....
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Not a detailed one he didn't....
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| Quote ="Daddycool"I’ve tried to stay quiet on this but it’s getting ridiculous. If rocky would sign for 2k more it would have been done by now.
The truth is that he was offerred a deal 85 days ago and has never come back with a response other then after 70 days, it’s not enough via his agent.'"
Fine I can accept that, I did make it rather clear it was not from anyone involved.
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| Rocky is our best player, so for 70 days the coach comes into work, shares the same working space with Rocky, travels with him to away games, one would hope that presumably they talk tactics, have lunch etc etc and not once did the coach think it might be a good idea to mention the offer the club had made, to get some feedback, to see how the lad felt about the offer. Perhaps even suggest to the Chairman or who ever has ultimate responsibility re player signings that would it be a good idea to have a meeting with Rocky to discuss feelings and a way forward. The coach must have been concerned that he was in danger of loosing his prize asset. Then again our coach didn't think we were in a relegation battle so maybe it is conceivable that the coach and player haven't had a chat.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Rocky is our best player, so for 70 days the coach comes into work, shares the same working space with Rocky, travels with him to away games, one would hope that presumably they talk tactics, have lunch etc etc and not once did the coach think it might be a good idea to mention the offer the club had made, to get some feedback, to see how the lad felt about the offer. Perhaps even suggest to the Chairman or who ever has ultimate responsibility re player signings that would it be a good idea to have a meeting with Rocky to discuss feelings and a way forward. The coach must have been concerned that he was in danger of loosing his prize asset. Then again our coach didn't think we were in a relegation battle so maybe it is conceivable that the coach and player haven't had a chat.'"
1) it's not Chester's negotiation
2) Hampshire isn't a kid. He is responsible for his own contract
3) Just because you don't like him doesn't make everything Chester's fault.
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| So it’s all Rocky’s fault
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So it’s all Rocky’s fault'"
If he didn't reply to a contract offer for 70 days, which seems to be the current understanding, then yes.
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| Quote ="PopTart"If he didn't reply to a contract offer for 70 days, which seems to be the current understanding, then yes.'"
One side of the story, maybe the whole truth maybe not but I think it’s a bit poor to come on here and blame one side without adding any context.
Was there a deadline set, did the club ever seek to speed up an answer, was Rocky aware that time was an element, did the club know why Rocky took so long, did Rocky have some mitigating circumstances that prevented him from replying, did the club do anything to speed the process at all?
It’s hard to believe that a player can attend the club almost everyday for 10 weeks and nobody sought to sit down with Ryan at some point to ask where he thought his mind was.
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| With talks ongoing lets hope all the parties involved can get round a table and thrash out a deal.Seriously think a bit of good news at the moment would be the tonic we need to help us get out of the shathole we currently find ourselves in.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Rocky is our best player, so for 70 days the coach comes into work, shares the same working space with Rocky, travels with him to away games, one would hope that presumably they talk tactics, have lunch etc etc and not once did the coach think it might be a good idea to mention the offer the club had made, to get some feedback, to see how the lad felt about the offer. Perhaps even suggest to the Chairman or who ever has ultimate responsibility re player signings that would it be a good idea to have a meeting with Rocky to discuss feelings and a way forward. The coach must have been concerned that he was in danger of loosing his prize asset. Then again our coach didn't think we were in a relegation battle so maybe it is conceivable that the coach and player haven't had a chat.'"
He's not our best player but the rest is a reasonable point.
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| I personally think it would be a good tonic as well, I think most fans would like to see it done so let’s hope that sense prevails and all parties get round the table and discuss the contract and get it over the line. Where’s there’s a will there’s a way.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"He's not our best player but the rest is a reasonable point.'" its all about opinions in terms of consistency throughout this season he probably has been one of them he hasn’t suffered massive drops in form. I thought bill and fafita were playing outstanding till the injuries and we need a few to find some form quickly
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| Could it be time for Rocky to find
a) Another club
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"its all about opinions in terms of consistency throughout this season he probably has been one of them he hasn’t suffered massive drops in form. I thought bill and fafita were playing outstanding till the injuries and we need a few to find some form quickly'"
Why didn't he sign before the previous deadline ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Why didn't he sign before the previous deadline ?'"
Presumably because the offer was far less than a starting super league fullback would expect, even considering we probably pay the smallest wages in the league. How many players do you think sign the first deal offered to them? I would say it is a very small number and agents wouldn't be doing the best for their clients if that is the case.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Rocky is our best player, so for 70 days the coach comes into work, shares the same working space with Rocky, travels with him to away games, one would hope that presumably they talk tactics, have lunch etc etc and not once did the coach think it might be a good idea to mention the offer the club had made, to get some feedback, to see how the lad felt about the offer. Perhaps even suggest to the Chairman or who ever has ultimate responsibility re player signings that would it be a good idea to have a meeting with Rocky to discuss feelings and a way forward. The coach must have been concerned that he was in danger of loosing his prize asset. Then again our coach didn't think we were in a relegation battle so maybe it is conceivable that the coach and player haven't had a chat.'" ridiculous to the think something like this would happen 70 days without even contacting each other
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"its all about opinions in terms of consistency throughout this season he probably has been one of them he hasn’t suffered massive drops in form. I thought bill and fafita were playing outstanding till the injuries and we need a few to find some form quickly'"
For me, best players are, when fit,
Johnstone
Fifita
Tupou
Ashurst
in that order, which actually does show how hard injuries have hit.
I'd put Hampshire somewhere in the next band but wouldn't argue at 5th spot on current form.
He is, however, the most versatile player at the club who has played well at FB/Wing and HB and could easily play hooker as well. You can't knock that for me and if I were a coach I'd consider that such a huge plus for any player.
The reason I don't include him in the top 4 is simple and nothing to do with his ability which is subjective anyway. It's simply that IMHO, when fit those four players are automatic choices and would be at most SL clubs. Hampshire is yet to do that when he does he gets my vote.
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| Daddycool as said he is willing to let the saga go public if the agent is .After what he as done for the club think the fans should leave it to Daddycool.Agents are spoiling all sports they do not care about the club they are just interested in what is in it for them.Still some way to catch football up one agent made 20 million out of one transfer
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