Reading they’ll have Thompson, Percival & LMS back for Saturday. God help us.

If we play the first half against saints as Catalan it will be a cricket score, get up in their faces ,stop the offloads, and please run onto the ball .I know these are the basics of the game ,but time and time again we fail to do these and it costs us dearly .We will soon find out if wakey have the stomach and desire for this game ,i personally think we have and can match them in all departments ,we just need to get stuck in for the full eighty and set off like a house on fire .

A few weeks ago I would have said 'bring Saints on!" Since then the team has changed, injuries, new players etc.
Not much chance I'm afraid, unless the team emerge with attitude, purpose and the HEART to win.

I think you are being rather disingenuous to wards Trinity.

The 2 London games aside, Trinity have played with the heart of a lion this season.
Crippled by the worst run of injuries in almost 50 years, they are still within touching distance of a play off spot and doing ok.

Saints are red hot at the moment and will very likely win. After all, they have only lost once all season and have a full squad and home advantage.
The bookies are giving us 14 points start, which may not be enough. However, if we can get something close to a 9/10 performance and have some luck with the bounce of the ball and not get screwed by the officials, maybe, just maybe, we can cause an upset.

One thing we need to do is get as many fans over to St Helens as possible and support the team.

The pressure is all on Saints.

There's that consistency Neil Hudgell is talking about. Then you have fools like Jon Wilkin accusing Trueman of faking it !

I would have agreed with you a fortnight ago - now, it really isn't.

How is it not? Will Saints not be the team that are expected to win this game and progress? In everyone else`s eyes we don`t stand a chance in this game the only real pressure on us should come from the pressure that the squad put on themselves to perform.

Because I can't see Saints going into this in any other mindset than brimming with confidence; they're quick, fluent, highly-skilled and able to score from anywhere on the park. I can't imagine for a minute that they'll feel any pressure when faced with the prospect of playing WT.

I'm not being a pessimist here - or discounting some kind of freak win - but it would be just that; a freak.

But surely that`s the point? There will be a pressure on them to win this game as they are expected to win it, even if they are full of confidence.

If by some miracle we see big Dave`s name on the team sheet and the return of Brough I may be travelling over the M62 with a tiny fraction of hope !

Can't afford any slow starts here. I imagine they'll come out all guns blazing from the off, like Warrington did down at BV earlier in the season. Really need big Dave but can't see him playing

If, and it's a big if, Saints are a bit 'off' on the day and we are at the top of our game we may well spring a surprise. Wakefield by 4.

Good to see quite a few optimists on here. But I honestly think we have zero chance of winning this match. I just dont see us putting everything together that we'd need to do to come out on top.

If we allow them to get of to a flyer and build up an early lead, then there is no pressure whatsoever.
However, if we can keep it tight or, better still, take the lead, then, pressure will build and their support may become impatient.

It's a huge ask but, equally, it's 13(17) v 13 (17) and if we harbour any ambition beyond being a top 5/6 club, then, at some point we have to win some of this type of game.

As the thread title suggests, this game is as tough as they come, especially with a squad that is a long way from full strength but, it still comes down to 80 minutes on a rectangular piece of grass and the reward for victory could be huge and tickets are cheap as chips



Come on Trin !

Dave not playing this week.
Chester just confirmed his foot injury not terrible but it will keep him out for a week.
Max too as he has broken his thumb.

MCB also a doubt this week. Jack Croft in the squad.

This is starting to feel like the game at Wigan a few years ago, when we went over there, first game of the season, with a patched up squad and expected to get mullered.
We very unexpectedly won thet one. The main difference is that we've no hope of catching Saints cold, they have been ruthless so far this season.
It's becoming a close your eyes and cross your fingers game.

I admire your optimism Wrencat, but this is now beyond cross your fingers time.

We've had the heart ripped out of the team for weeks and it simply gets worse. If Max is out and Dave, even if Broughty back - forget it, and I'll gladly eat my words but I think we'll do good to avoid a big score against.

Two teenagers Croft and Kershaw against Naiqama and Makinson?...one on debut...it’s what dreams are made of boys...go make a name for yourselves...best team in the league by a mile, full strength...in red hot form...live on bbc...there is no greater stage!

This is starting to feel more and more like the Wire semi final three years ago.

Talk about chosen men!!!
Defo nothing to lose!!


For gods sake, who has broken a mirror since the start of this season!!


May I suggest that those travelling over for the game like myself, take their boots - just in case......

I said warlier, we must have killed a lot of robins.

Looks like Fifita might flown off somewhere looking at his Instagram from Manchester Airport. Second thoughts has he just seen someone off.

Frankly this would have been a near impossible with a full team. Our record in the CCup in recent times is terrible no matter what teams we’ve put out. I’ve certainly never seen us play well in this competition, don’t know why we just seem up for it.

So imo it doesn’t really matter who’s playing but whether those who are actually want to. A bit of desire would be nice.

Good job we didn't draw Bradford.