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| Quote ="Tigerade"I cannot see Salford complaining. Its a straight battle between WTW and Bulls. Salford did'nt go into administration either.'"
Imagine this scenario... Bulls get 6 points back and beat Salford, Wakefield beat London, that puts Salford in 13th and a point behind both. Salford ARE in the relegation scrap.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I cannot see Salford complaining. Its a straight battle between WTW and Bulls. Salford did'nt go into administration either.'"
I'd guess the Salford fans won't see it that way, Bradford get points back, we both play Salford, they could quite easily be dragged into the relegation dogfight.
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| @DCravenYPSport: Independent appeal hearing into Bradford Bulls' points deduction scheduled for 2-6pm today but might not be an instant verdict #rugbyleague
So that would suggest it hasn't been sorted weeks since.........Doesn't it?
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I cannot see Salford complaining. Its a straight battle between WTW and Bulls. Salford did'nt go into administration either.'"
A club that goes from relative safety to a situation where they become mired in the relegation battle wont complain
I don't think that MarwanK will be very happy at all and he's not usually known for keeping quiet.
It would be a very lively call from Salford to RLHQ, I'd love to be a fly on the wall. WOW
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| A small issue surrounding the appeal this afternoon.
Which part(s) of the Bulls situation are the panel looking at and have the been given some parameters by the RFL which may "help" them with their conclusions.
For instance, IF they were to look at the current ownership in relation to any "wrong doing", they will come out fairly "clean". However, an afternoon meeting 2-6pm wouldn't give them time to investigate all of the issues over the last 5-6 months.
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| If Bulls do get points back maybe AG was better going into admin and then MC coming in after. Farce.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"The panel includes Bill Broughton and Chris Booth, who are partners at Leeds-based legal firm Pinsent Mason, and James Sleight, an insolvency practitioner.'"
As this,selected by the RFL,independent panel,cannot make the situation any worse for Bradford Bulls,could someone enlighten me as to who will have paid for the time and expertise of the independent panel members?
If the independent panel come to the conclusion that the RFL have erred,would Bradford therefore be entitled to compensation?
I apologise in advance for losing track of this saga some time ago.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"If Bulls do get points back maybe AG was better going into admin and then MC coming in after. Farce.'"
That's what we wanted to do but the RFL said we'd be kicked straight out of SL so we had to sell half the team
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| Quote ="Red-Devils-PAW"As this,selected by the RFL,independent panel,cannot make the situation any worse for Bradford Bulls,could someone enlighten me as to who will have paid for the time and expertise of the independent panel members?
If the independent panel come to the conclusion that the RFL have erred,would Bradford therefore be entitled to compensation?
I apologise in advance for losing track of this saga some time ago.'"
If I remember correctly isn't it Mark Green I think he's called, the new Bradford owner who'se paying for it?
Don't want to be seen to be drawing other teams into this conflict/relegation but Salford fans don't appear fazed that we're only one point behind you so if Bradford do get six points back, they too will be a point behind you, and as a consequence you'll be dragged into the relegation dogfight?
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"If Bulls do get points back maybe AG was better going into admin and then MC coming in after. Farce.'"
Yeah , but that's the point - we would have been relegated , whereas the Bulls .......
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Yeah , but that's the point - we would have been relegated , whereas the Bulls .......'"
Absolutely and that is what niggles me so much. One treatment for one and another for us.
Is the fact that they've been in administration twice since we were lost on people?
I also recall the RFL issuing a statement that they would be harsher on clubs who chose the administration route or fell into it.
4 points deduction was sufficient for us and Crusaders a few years ago before the threat of a more severe penalty.
I genuinely feel for the Bradford fans, they are the innocents in this who are suffering. However the RFL have to make a stand and say that financial incompetence and lack of responsibility to their employees, stakeholders, creditors and the good of the game will not be tolerated.
If Bradford get their points back it will set a very dangerous precedent for the RFL and the game. All future transgressions could be challenged and make our governing body as useful as the UN trying to stop the 2003 war in Iraq.
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| Quote ="wildshot"Absolutely and that is what niggles me so much. One treatment for one and another for us.
Is the fact that they've been in administration twice since we were lost on people?
I also recall the RFL issuing a statement that they would be harsher on clubs who chose the administration route or fell into it.
4 points deduction was sufficient for us and Crusaders a few years ago before the threat of a more severe penalty.
I genuinely feel for the Bradford fans, they are the innocents in this who are suffering.[u However the RFL have to make a stand and say that financial incompetence and lack of responsibility to their employees, stakeholders, creditors[/u and the good of the game will not be tolerated.
If Bradford get their points back it will set a very dangerous precedent for the RFL and the game. All future transgressions could be challenged and make our governing body as useful as the UN trying to stop the 2003 war in Iraq.'"
They have done by deducting them 6 points, it's now an 'independant panel' who are going to decide.
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Yeah , but that's the point - we would have been relegated , whereas the Bulls .......'"
Exactly (It was sarcasm btw).
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| Sorry....took it a bit too literally .
Five o'clock and still no news , what are they fannying about at ?
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Sorry....took it a bit too literally .
Five o'clock and still no news , what are they fannying about at ?'"
Making it look thorough and proffesionaly done?
Someone tweeted earlier that Sky sports news reported it could be two weeks before the Bulls find out.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Making it look thorough and proffesionaly done?
Someone tweeted earlier that Sky sports news reported it could be two weeks before the Bulls find out.'"
Boots n all tonight then
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| Quote ="FIL"www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/11253944.Day_of_reckoning_for_Bradford_Bulls_as_points_appeal_heard/?ref=var_0
No guarantee of getting a verdict today -
"The decision is not necessarily expected today and could drag on until the end of the week"'"
As posted this morning !
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| Quote ="JINJER"If I remember correctly isn't it [uMark Green I think he's called, the new Bradford owner who'se paying for it?
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Don't want to be seen to be drawing other teams into this conflict/relegation but Salford fans don't appear fazed that we're only one point behind you so if Bradford do get six points back, they too will be a point behind you, and as a consequence you'll be dragged into the relegation dogfight?'"
Paying for the 'appeal', but apparently still owing creditors money?
I can see where his priorities still lie!
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| Quote ="wildshot"I genuinely feel for the Bradford fans, they are the innocents in this who are suffering. However the RFL have to make a stand and say that financial incompetence and lack of responsibility to their employees, stakeholders, creditors and the good of the game will not be tolerated.'"
That's the problem though. Many Bradford fans do believe that the administration was orchestrated by the RFL. If this has any element of truth - it's not exactly the firm stance I think you had in mind
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| Well if it's proved the RFL advised Bradford to go into admin and we were advised if we went into admin we'd be kicked out of SL this story won't go away
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| Are the RFL legally bound to adhere to any decision made by this "independent panel" which according to an earlier post was paid for by the Bradford owner?
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| Update from Bulls twitter;
@OfficialBullsRL: (1/2) An independent Sporting Sanctions Appeal Panel today heard evidence prepared of behalf of Bradford Bulls. The panel has requested...
@OfficialBullsRL: (2/2)...further, supportive information and is to decide on the outcome of the appeal in due course.
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| No news today it seems, the panel will tell them in due course
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| Quote ="daveyz999"Update from Bulls twitter;
@OfficialBullsRL: (1/2) An independent Sporting Sanctions Appeal Panel today heard evidence prepared of behalf of Bradford Bulls. The panel has requested...
@OfficialBullsRL: (2/2)...further, supportive information and is to decide on the outcome of the appeal in due course.'"
In other words, whatever you've claimed, prove it.
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