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| Quote ="jack in the box"Just been announced on Boots an all if Bradford get points back Michael Carter is walking away from our club and the game....interesting
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Can understand his frustration. Interesting few weeks ahead.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Just been announced on Boots an all if Bradford get points back Michael Carter is walking away from our club and the game....interesting
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So it seems...
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| The plot certainly thickens and nothing that happens within the sport of RL is a surprise.
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| MC - "I'm walking if Bulls get points back - it's not Fair"
Nigel Wood - "OK then - see ya".....
2 weeks later Bulls are given all 6 points back and more chance of staying up along with the RFL's precious London. Oh dear.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Just been announced on Boots an all if Bradford get points back Michael Carter is walking away from our club and the game....interesting
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I'll probably join him.
Remember, we were told that if we went into Administration we'd probably be relegated as we would not be given a licence for 2014. Bradford managed to get away without been relegated and if they get the 6 points back then I think we'll know where we are with the RFL although the appeal is to a supposed independent body.
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| Is this an attempt to influence the outcome of the appeal before it is even heard? Poor form if so. I would have thought he would have been better off keep his powder dry until the appeal is actually heard.
I don't know what defence the Bulls intend to take to the appeal but I still feel the initial points deduction was premature. I suspect the best outcome will be a reduction to 4 pts. What absolutely must come out of all this is some very clear guidelines by the RFL in regards to the penalties for entering admin. No other SL club has suffered the 1.2M worth of funding being witheld. We've so far we've had no mention of this penalty being applied once again to the Bulls. Will this financial penalty ever be handed out if another club enters admin or was it a one off just for Bradford?
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat" Bradford managed to get away without been relegated and if they get the 6 points back then I think we'll know where we are with the RFL although the appeal is to a supposed independent body.'"
I think most WTW fans "know where they" are with the RFL hence their stance on admin = relegation.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Is this an attempt to influence the outcome of the appeal before it is even heard? Poor form if so. I would have thought he would have been better off keep his powder dry until the appeal is actually heard.
I don't know what defence the Bulls intend to take to the appeal but I still feel the initial points deduction was premature. I suspect the best outcome will be a reduction to 4 pts. What absolutely must come out of all this is some very clear guidelines by the RFL in regards to the penalties for entering admin. No other SL club has suffered the 1.2M worth of funding being witheld. We've so far we've had no mention of this penalty being applied once again to the Bulls. Will this financial penalty ever be handed out if another club enters admin or was it a one off just for Bradford?'"
Foretell rather than influence.
I can't imagine anyone with any involvement reads these pages can you?
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Is this an attempt to influence the outcome of the appeal before it is even heard? Poor form if so. I would have thought he would have been better off keep his powder dry until the appeal is actually heard.
I don't know what defence the Bulls intend to take to the appeal but I still feel the initial points deduction was premature. I suspect the best outcome will be a reduction to 4 pts. What absolutely must come out of all this is some very clear guidelines by the RFL in regards to the penalties for entering admin. No other SL club has suffered the 1.2M worth of funding being witheld. We've so far we've had no mention of this penalty being applied once again to the Bulls. Will this financial penalty ever be handed out if another club enters admin or was it a one off just for Bradford?'"
We had to survive first 2 years in SL with no funding. The loss of SL funding for Bradford was to guarantee their place in SL.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"We had to survive first 2 years in SL with no funding. The loss of SL funding for Bradford was to guarantee their place in SL.'"
I though this as well. That Omar voluntarily accepted the funding to be withheld as they had had a secret loan that needed paying back? Is this incorrect as the bulls fans always bring this up?? IMO if we are relying on a points deduction to a team for us to stay up, do we deserve to be in SL? The team is good enough to stay up, they just need to be picked on the right positions and left to find a rhythm. I don't think Agar knows his best team
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Just been announced on Boots an all if Bradford get points back Michael Carter is walking away from our club and the game....interesting
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It said he would 'consider' walking away. Not the same at all.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"I though this as well. That Omar voluntarily accepted the funding to be withheld as they had had a secret loan that needed paying back? Is this incorrect as the bulls fans always bring this up?? IMO if we are relying on a points deduction to a team for us to stay up, do we deserve to be in SL? The team is good enough to stay up, they just need to be picked on the right positions and left to find a rhythm. I don't think Agar knows his best team'"
The secret loan had already been paid back. The RFL took the loan amount out of theoney they paid for the odsal lease. This had nothing to do with the withheld sky money.
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| Surely they can't believe a "force majeure" defence is justifiable. In what way was there inability to live within their means which ultimately caused the administration an unforeseen event outside of their control?
I would also be interested to see on what grounds the RFL granted an appeal given the licencing application process prevented any legal challenge to the outcome
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| [urlhttp://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/rugby-league/9267690/super-league-backchat-ep-18[/url Covered on here...
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| Just seen Big Nige in the hospital. He has a bad back from moving the goal posts again.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Just seen Big Nige in the hospital. He has a bad back from moving the goal posts again.'"
At the 'iconic' stadium no doubt!
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Is this an attempt to influence the outcome of the appeal before it is even heard? Poor form if so. I would have thought he would have been better off keep his powder dry until the appeal is actually heard.'"
Carter is speaking out against a clear sense of injustice.
Quote ="Bully_Boxer"No other SL club has suffered the 1.2M worth of funding being witheld. We've so far we've had no mention of this penalty being applied once again to the Bulls. Will this financial penalty ever be handed out if another club enters admin or was it a one off just for Bradford?'"
No other club has ever had their ground/lease bought to clear unpaid debts then have to rented back at a bargin basement rent. 3 times the rent we pay but with double the revenus making potential. Nice little bounty there that your saving on the market rate.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Is this an attempt to influence the outcome of the appeal before it is even heard? Poor form if so. I would have thought he would have been better off keep his powder dry until the appeal is actually heard.
I don't know what defence the Bulls intend to take to the appeal but I still feel the initial points deduction was premature. I suspect the best outcome will be a reduction to 4 pts. What absolutely must come out of all this is some very clear guidelines by the RFL in regards to the penalties for entering admin. [i[uNo other SL club has suffered the 1.2M worth of [/u[/i[i[ufunding being witheld.[/u[/i We've so far we've had no mention of this penalty being applied once again to the Bulls. Will this financial penalty ever be handed out if another club enters admin or was it a one off just for Bradford?'"
Errr, I seem to recall a certain Wakefield Trinity not being given any funding in their first two years in Super League.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Errr, I seem to recall a certain Wakefield Trinity not being given any funding in their first two years in Super League.'"
What were the reasons for this and what was the value of funding?
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| Quote ="deeHell"Carter is speaking out against a clear sense of injustice.
No other club has ever had their ground/lease bought to clear unpaid debts then have to rented back at a bargin basement rent. 3 times the rent we pay but with double the revenus making potential. Nice little bounty there that your saving on the market rate.'"
Bradford aren't the only RL club the has RFL owned stadia. The Bulls pay market value rent to the RFL.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Bradford aren't the only RL club the has RFL owned stadia. The Bulls pay market value rent to the RFL.'"
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"What were the reasons for this and what was the value of funding?'"
Simple answer only the super league clubs at the time know this and it was two seasons worth of sky money, so considerbly less than anyone else in sl at the time!!! is it me?
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"What were the reasons for this and what was the value of funding?'"
The club won the 1998 Championship Grand Final and were told (eventually) they would be allowed into SL but the clubs would not share the Sky pot out to another club for two years. The amount if I recall then was in the order of £750k to £850k per year. Hopefully someone with a better memory than my own can confirm.
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| Wildcats chairman comes out fighting for his club, maybe he should do the teamtalk on friday???
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