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| How many coaches would have not come bottom that year he did a remarkable job. Why are you saying he ruined a full academy team dont get it? He didn't have many options but to play the academy lads. Be careful what you say pointing acquisations our financial state and JK. OUT OF ORDER ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif)
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| WTF is an "acquisation"?
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"How many coaches would have not come bottom that year he did a remarkable job. Why are you saying he ruined a full academy team dont get it? He didn't have many options but to play the academy lads. Be careful what you say pointing acquisations our financial state and JK. OUT OF ORDER
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The truth as ever lays between the two. JK made some errors and didn't cover himself in glory for various reasons in his last year at the club.
That said people like Mopsey and a few others have there own agendas - truth is running a RL club or coaching one is a thankless task and the window of popularity is a small one. There was a time when Ted's name was sung from the terraces and JK was practically King of Wakefield and was loved by all.
People remember what they want to.
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| Quote ="vastman"A lot of what you are saying is true, but your credibility is ruined for me until you come clean and stop the pretence that you and Mopsey are not the same person - you are!
You're quick to question the moral fibre of players and fans alike so I'm challenging you to show some integrity and come clean.
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vasty over the years iv been asked if i was mopseys love child, mopseys mum and now try scorer. i also got shouted at going in to the ground if i was sir richard agar on twitter, im none of these and never have been. iv no idea who try scorer his but if he has a knowledge of the academy system hes either a ex player, parent or someone whos involved with the club. quite frankly im my own person and own man i dont hide behind anyone. iv got a point of view which may or may not be liked just like others including you. theres too many in this game who cant lay in bed straight and i aint one of them. ask al to check the ip address aswell if you like.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"How many coaches would have not come bottom that year he did a remarkable job. Why are you saying he ruined a full academy team dont get it? He didn't have many options but to play the academy lads. Be careful what you say pointing acquisations our financial state and JK. OUT OF ORDER
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where have i pointed any accusations at anyone please enlighten me i stated a fact jk was on the bod when it went tits up.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"How many coaches would have not come bottom that year he did a remarkable job. Why are you saying he ruined a full academy team dont get it? He didn't have many options but to play the academy lads. Be careful what you say pointing acquisations our financial state and JK. OUT OF ORDER
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where have i pointed any accusations at anyone please enlighten me i stated a fact jk was on the bod when it went tits up.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Thanks for the insight mopsey. Based on what you've put there I think we'd agree on quite a bit. If you ever fancying coming darn't lane I wouldn't hold your "past" allegiances against you!
To take up your point about skills.=#FF0000 It frustrates the life of me when watching RL (all clubs) just how poor the passing from dummy half is. There's no excuse for professional RL players to not pick out a good pass 99% of the time from that position, in my opinion. Do you see this as a failing by amateur coaching at a young level? What could we do as a sport to improve it?'"
If Mopsey and I had £10 for every time we discussed that very point we would be very wealth men. Sadly too many people buy into Stevos scoot from dummy half as being what's best for the game. I can't abide head down up scooter hookers.
However there is a young hooker at Wigan named Luke Waterworth who has superb hands from #9. Major concern is that he may not be big enough.
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| Quote ="try scorer"Not missing your point at all your some teams no names told me your reference was to wake field,Gary Thornton had a job at BV coaching u21s he soon left. when they took a few hammering so winning must have meant something to him.This flippant talk about kids cups really annoys folk who at the time in some cases like mopsey involved in the coaching and others who watch our academy and in that particular year saw the serious way clubs took that u18sleague they all wanted to win it .Don't underestimate what the Wakefield side a heaved that season to finish top of the league and also win the grand final,every team in super league except Catalan was involved and if it was Wigan or Leeds who had done this nobody would try and punch holes in their acheivment'"
Well I can't decide whether you are missing my point or I'm not articulating myself correctly, which is why I said as much. What I do know for sure is that debate is impossible with you as you have no desire to learn, presumably because you know it all.
Thanks for the genuine replies people.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"vasty over the years iv been asked if i was mopseys love child, mopseys mum and now try scorer. i also got shouted at going in to the ground if i was sir richard agar on twitter, im none of these and never have been. iv no idea who try scorer his but if he has a knowledge of the academy system hes either a ex player, parent or someone whos involved with the club. quite frankly im my own person and own man i dont hide behind anyone. iv got a point of view which may or may not be liked just like others including you. theres too many in this game who cant lay in bed straight and i aint one of them. ask al to check the ip address aswell if you like.'"
I'll believe you, billions wouldn't ![THINK eusa_think.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_think.gif)
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| Might as well live up to my reputation I don't know everything but on rugby matters on the field not many on here can learn me owt,there does that make you feel justified ignoring the points I made
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| Quote ="try scorer"Might as well live up to my reputation I don't know everything but on rugby matters on the field not many on here can learn me owt,there does that make you feel justified ignoring the points I made'"
you mean teach, you learn ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| I think I said on the field rugby matters
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| Quote ="try scorer"I think I said on the field rugby matters'" certainly need a sense of humour transplant
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| I agree
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| Quote ="vastman"I'll believe you, billions wouldn't
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I know who Mopseys love child is/was and it aint mopsey.
I don't think tryscorer is mopsey either vasty, i have been known to be wrong though (only once ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif) )
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| Anywayus back to Walshaw and playing in the centres.
Whats the verdict? for me its a no.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Anywayus back to Walshaw and playing in the centres.
Whats the verdict? for me its a no.'"
speed him up yes, otherwise he's a second rower for me
has he bulked up too much
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| I'm with you Al - too slow and not agile enough; he'd be made a monkey of and that would ruin him.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm with you Al - too slow and not agile enough; he'd be made a monkey of and that would ruin him.'"
You like words don't you, is this new word i've invented any good "Anywayus" ?
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| Walshaw should stay at second row not quick enough. Sykes, Kienhorst or Briscoe at centre this weekend IMHO.
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| Get the lad in the centre slot. Not many centre's or wingers can live with his size, and as for pace, I remember catching Goulding at Wigan last year when Wigan broke and he was in the second row that day so he should be quick enough. Also remember a good break he made at Leeds on boxing day a few years ago so he has the attributes. Bit of coaching, maybe get Collis to teach him the old in and out and he'll be a cracking player.
The first post in this thread also mentions another player... Chris Annakin... was awesome for us last year, I'd put him in at 13 this year, but Agar doesn't seem to want to play him. Might have something to do with his mate Washbrook ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="4foxsake"Get the lad in the centre slot. Not many centre's or wingers can live with his size, and as for pace, I remember catching Goulding at Wigan last year when Wigan broke and he was in the second row that day so he should be quick enough. Also remember a good break he made at Leeds on boxing day a few years ago so he has the attributes. Bit of coaching, maybe get Collis to teach him the old in and out and he'll be a cracking player.
The first post in this thread also mentions another player... Chris Annakin... was awesome for us last year, I'd put him in at 13 this year, but Agar doesn't seem to want to play him. Might have something to do with his mate Washbrook
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Annakins injured thats why he hasn't featured.
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| He's been out a while then, whats the injury?
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| Quote ="4foxsake"He's been out a while then, whats the injury?'"
A knee injury I believe don't know the exact details but was in the press about him missing a few games of the new season.
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| Quote ="El Rey"You like words don't you, is this new word i've invented any good "Anywayus" ?'"
It works for me Al.
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