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| Quote ="TRB"icon_cry.gif So you know how we would have voted then?
I've met MC a few times and no-one can make him do what he doesn't want to do - he is his own man!'"
I do know that like Cas Tigers - WTW have voted the new system in along with Salford, Leeds, Bradford, Widnes and London.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I do know that like Cas Tigers - WTW have voted the new system in along with Salford, Leeds, Bradford, Widnes and London.'"
Well, looking at the teams that allegedly voted for it & the alternative that TRB has alluded to, I would suggest quite a few were up for a ten team shut out.
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| Apart from Leeds & Saints , the teams with the money voted against ...I wonder why ?
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| Maybe Sky Sports may have had some input, S.L has no sponsors and most of the teams out the top six are on the verge of going bust.
Why do you worry when you think your far superior to any Championship club and have pots of cash.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Well, looking at the teams that allegedly voted for it & the alternative that TRB has alluded to, I would suggest quite a few were up for a ten team shut out.'"
Your probably right. Both Hull clubs have publicly championed a ten team SL.
This might be the end product in a few years time. 10 teams playing each other 3 times = 27 games plus Magic (if it's still viable) = 28 games then a top 5 play-off.
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| Quote ="Red City"Why do you worry when you think your far superior to any Championship club and have pots of cash.'"
....and the random comment of the week goes to.....
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Your probably right. Both Hull clubs have publicly championed a ten team SL.
This might be the end product in a few years time. 10 teams playing each other 3 times = 27 games plus Magic (if it's still viable) = 28 games then a top 5 play-off.'"
I fear this is the long term agenda with Tolouse and Catalans in there on French tv contracts. This would leave 8 English clubs sharing a bigger slice of the pie.
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Apart from Leeds & Saints , the teams with the money voted against ...I wonder why ?'"
IFAIK Saints voted against.
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| By all accounts, of people 'in the know' this is the voting
FOR: London Wakefield Cas Bradford Leeds Saints Widnes
AGAINST: Wigan Wire Salford Hudd HullFC HullKR
ABSTAINED: Catalans
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| Quote ="Tigerade"IFAIK Saints voted against.'"
No they didn't
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| As I read it:-
FOR: London Wakefield Cas Bradford Leeds Salford Widnes
AGAINST: Wigan Wire Saints Hudd HullFC HullKR
ABSTAINED: Catalans
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| Quote ="financialtimes"No they didn't
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Go on then - enlighten me.
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Apart from Leeds & Saints , the teams with the money voted against ...I wonder why ?'"
So teams with the money ie successful owners who made money through intelligence and shrewd behaviour who know how to run a business and a sports club shouldn't be trusted yet clubs who are constantly in the crapper making bad decision after bad decision are the ones to listen to?
Are you working for the government?
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Koukash voted against it purely based on asking his fans what they wanted. He said so on Twitter, he also said it is what it is now and get behind it.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Go on then - enlighten me.'"
see above
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| Quote ="Tigerade"As I read it:-
FOR: London Wakefield Cas Bradford Leeds Salford Widnes
AGAINST: Wigan Wire Saints Hudd HullFC HullKR
ABSTAINED: Catalans'"
Quote ="Twitter drmawanK"Marwan Koukash @drmarwanK · 20h
On a serious note, I did listen to the fans and I did vote against the new structure. However, the SPORT will have my full support '"
HTH
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"So teams with the money ie successful owners who made money through intelligence and shrewd behaviour who know how to run a business and a sports club shouldn't be trusted yet clubs who are constantly in the crapper making bad decision after bad decision are the ones to listen to?
Are you working for the government?
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Koukash voted against it purely based on asking his fans what they wanted. He said so on Twitter, he also said it is what it is now and get behind it.'"
Jeez, it’s a good job our lot didn’t ask the fans, we could have been looking at a ten team lock-out (alledgedly)
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| Quote ="financialtimes"see above
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Fair do's clever clogs. I stand corrected.
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| Quote ="TRB"But have you any idea what alternative was on the table? It was far worse than this and destructive to the game!'"
Do you have any idea how damning that statement is....
We opt for the crazy because the offered alternative is stupid...
Wow... Just wow!
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| Rumours of the proposed alternative may have sounded better at first viewing - but the financial package attached would have been heavily in favour of the 'richer' clubs. Those at the top of SL would be getting a lot more money than those further down - hence the 'richer' clubs voting against the RFL proposal.
The new structure ensures a more even distribution of funding throughout the game.
We are no more likely to be relegated now than we were before yesterday as the agreement for 12 clubs was already agreed in principal and the RFL had stated up front that if the SL clubs couldn't agree then there would be 2up and 2down, so no change there. Under these proposals, should the worst happen and we do end up relegated, then we will be much better off under this structure.
There is much mirth about the new structure, and not everyone will like it, but it's not all bad news!
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| Quote ="Old Blighty"Do you have any idea how damning that statement is....
We opt for the crazy because the offered alternative is stupid...
Wow... Just wow!'"
Have a read of the 28 page report.
And yes, I do realise that!
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| Quote ="TRB"Have a read of the 28 page report.
And yes, I do realise that!'"
The report provides no insight or solution... It is an appallingly poor piece of work, delivered by incompetent people.
To base the future of our sport on that is folly, bordering neglect
As with many such pieces of work it reflects the requirements f the reports sponsor and is structured to maipulate its audience and to obtain a desired outcome, for the sponsor.
This situation required a genuinely independent review and a working party to set in place a 25 year plan for the game in the uk... At all levels, and it's interaction with the international game.
The current incumbents of power are merely custodians of the game for future generations, and should act like that. These people are thinking no further than their next pay cheque.
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| Quote ="Old Blighty"The report provides no insight or solution... It is an appallingly poor piece of work, delivered by incompetent people.
To base the future of our sport on that is folly, bordering neglect
As with many such pieces of work it reflects the requirements f the reports sponsor and is structured to maipulate its audience and to obtain a desired outcome, for the sponsor.
This situation required a genuinely independent review and a working party to set in place a 25 year plan for the game in the uk... At all levels, and it's interaction with the international game.
The current incumbents of power are merely custodians of the game for future generations, and should act like that. These people are thinking no further than their next pay cheque.'"
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| I haven't read every page but suggest your first form of protest should be at your own club, as they were one of the seven that voted for it. No doubt under the instruction of the Hetheringtons!!
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"So teams with the money ie successful owners who made money through intelligence and shrewd behaviour who know how to run a business and a sports club shouldn't be trusted yet clubs who are constantly in the crapper making bad decision after bad decision are the ones to listen to?
Are you working for the government?
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Koukash voted against it purely based on asking his fans what they wanted. He said so on Twitter, he also said it is what it is now and get behind it.'"
Then again you could say, those big clubs that happen to have wealthy owners are looking after their own and not necessarily what's best for RL.
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| Quote ="Old Blighty"The report provides no insight or solution... It is an appallingly poor piece of work, delivered by incompetent people.
To base the future of our sport on that is folly, bordering neglect
As with many such pieces of work it reflects the requirements f the reports sponsor and is structured to maipulate its audience and to obtain a desired outcome, for the sponsor.
This situation required a genuinely independent review and a working party to set in place a 25 year plan for the game in the uk... At all levels, and it's interaction with the international game.
The current incumbents of power are merely custodians of the game for future generations, and should act like that. These people are thinking no further than their next pay cheque.'"
Well said.
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