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| If this swap deal has been done,someone needs to give their head a serious shake.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"If this swap deal has been done,someone needs to give their head a serious shake.'"
Or speccis need to buy season tickets!
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| Even if Lovegrove is still contracted it means jack if HKR have told him he can find a new club?
We can pick him up for zip as a seperate deal or we can include him as part payment for JP & BC. Yeah that makes sense??
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| Did hull kr release Craig hall? . I thought he always looked a decent winger, certainly better than caro in my opinion.
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| Lovegrove and Kirmond could be a cracking back row.
Omari needs a rocket up his jacksie though, he's a bit of a project player, definitely a confidence player.
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| What the hell are we doing looking at garbage like this? We have players that are out of contract that can do a better job...home grown as well. Still no news on Wilde, Walshaw and kay?
I bet their offering more than 10k a year to Omar Cario
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It's got to be cash plus players if we let Hull KR have Cockayne and Poore. 60k plus Lovegrove would be acceptable. Are we that desperate we'd give away a proven prop and pack leader?
Keep Omari Caro we don't need him we've got Reece Lynne who is no slouch and would be a good replacement for Cockayne at 5 with Collis and Lee Smith in the centres. Caro can't tackle and is not Super League standard.
Wonder if the swap will be for Lovegrove and Tuimavave who has been released by Hull KR according to twitter so no signing on fee? Prop for prop plus second row to replace Tuson who we didn't get?...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evarn_Tuimavave
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It's got to be cash plus players if we let Hull KR have Cockayne and Poore. 60k plus Lovegrove would be acceptable. Are we that desperate we'd give away a proven prop and pack leader?
Keep Omari Caro we don't need him we've got Reece Lynne who is no slouch and would be a good replacement for Cockayne at 5 with Collis and Lee Smith in the centres. Caro can't tackle and is not Super League standard.
Wonder if the swap will be for Lovegrove and Tuimavave who has been released by Hull KR according to twitter so no signing on fee? Prop for prop plus second row to replace Tuson who we didn't get?...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evarn_Tuimavave
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| Fair enough on caro dont think e.t will be in a position anytime soon to take up rugby league. Hes been released believed to be for personal reasons and in respect to e.t right to privacy thats all I want to say on that. All I did in posting this topic this as its just rumour and I wanted to see if theres was any truth in it from your end. I didn't do it to disrespect wakefield or take the mick but if thats thats the case I unreservedly apologise and wish all the best for next season as I do have a soft spot for wakey..
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| Quote ="another fine mess"Fair enough on caro dont think e.t will be in a position to take up rugby league. Hes been released believed to be for personal reasons and in respect to e.t right to privacy thats all I want to say on that. All I did in posting this as its just rumour and I wanted to see if theres was any truth in it from your end. I didn't do it to disrespect wakefield but if thats thats the case I unreservedly apologise.'"
No need to apologise everyone posts stuff like this on the forum!
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| I know this won't be a popular thing to hear guys but.....
I don't think you're in a position to be overly picky and turn your noses up at players. Players that leave will need replacing, and with a financial shortfall, it's only logical that deals will be slightly unfavourable and you won't get many "like-for-likes"
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I know this won't be a popular thing to hear guys but.....
I don't think you're in a position to be overly picky and turn your noses up at players. Players that leave will need replacing, and with a financial shortfall, it's only logical that deals will be slightly unfavourable and you won't get many "like-for-likes"'"
I think the complaint is we'd rather some of our own get a chance to replace departing players rather than unwanted and apprantly poor recruits from other clubs.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I think the complaint is we'd rather some of our own get a chance to replace departing players rather than unwanted and apprantly poor recruits from other clubs.'"
fair comment, and I agree whole heartedly.... Though I still reckon that what you'd rather have isn't viable in this case. If you end up with players on the field who aren't ready it could do more harm than good - especially in a relegation year. If your hands are tied to cheaper players this season, then you'll probably get the cast-offs and have to wmake do.
Not that it's always a bad thing, JK achieved the ipossible with, IMO, a much weaker team on paper than what you currently have (assuming there are no more to leave)
Out of interest, who would you "rather" take from HKR as replacements for Poore and Cockayne? (purely hypothetical, obviously, considering there's no citation for this deal whatsoever)
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"fair comment, and I agree whole heartedly.... Though I still reckon that what you'd rather have isn't viable in this case. If you end up with players on the field who aren't ready it could do more harm than good - especially in a relegation year. If your hands are tied to cheaper players this season, then you'll probably get the cast-offs and have to wmake do.
Not that it's always a bad thing, JK achieved the ipossible with, IMO, a much weaker team on paper than what you currently have (assuming there are no more to leave)
Out of interest, who would you "rather" take from HKR as replacements for Poore and Cockayne? (purely hypothetical, obviously, considering there's no citation for this deal whatsoever)'"
I'd rather the club take £60k. If Lovegrove and Caro are released, due to them not being in Sandercock's plans, by HKR sign them afterwards.
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| @TREVORBC83: No doubt it'll be the old "it'll be in before 3 o'clock today" pffff
That's not referring to what I think it is is it people? £££???
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"@TREVORBC83: No doubt it'll be the old "it'll be in before 3 o'clock today" pffff
That's not referring to what I think it is is it people? £££???'"
Could be. Depends if Aiton's gone or not.
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| Lovegrove good player but that Caro I wouldn't pay him out in peanuts. Lazy as anything no good waste of a wage.
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| I think you'll struggle to get a good fee for Poore - considering he will be on silly money (I think) and fills a quota spot
Clubs won't think he's worth his wages AND a decent fee. They're more likely to offer a player swap to cushion the wage bill increase (though that's a pretty basic way of looking at it, granted)
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I think you'll struggle to get a good fee for Poore - considering he will be on silly money (I think) and fills a quota spot
Clubs won't think he's worth his wages AND a decent fee. They're more likely to offer a player swap to cushion the wage bill increase (though that's a pretty basic way of looking at it, granted)'"
I agree who is going to pay a good fee for an average overseas player.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I think you'll struggle to get a good fee for Poore - considering he will be on silly money (I think) and fills a quota spot
Clubs won't think he's worth his wages AND a decent fee. They're more likely to offer a player swap to cushion the wage bill increase (though that's a pretty basic way of looking at it, granted)'"
£30k is a reasonable figure if a clubs wants him. Same fee as Cockayne and £20k less than the fee for Amor.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"£30k is a reasonable figure if a clubs wants him. Same fee as Cockayne and £20k less than the fee for Amor.'"
it's a reasonable fee yes, but that depends whether the cclub in question (KR or otherwise) believe the same - considering the cost of his wage and quota spot.
If clubs were looking to pay a fee, big wages, and use a quota spot.... They'd probably aim a little higher than JP. I would if I was a coach anyway (and it's a travesty that I aren't )
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"it's a reasonable fee yes, but that depends whether the cclub in question (KR or otherwise) believe the same - considering the cost of his wage and quota spot.
If clubs were looking to pay a fee, big wages, and use a quota spot.... They'd probably aim a little higher than JP. I would if I was a coach anyway (and it's a travesty that I aren't
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I agree. If I was a coach I would aim a hell of a lot higher than JP.
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| plus HKR are rumoured to have financial problems - they might not be able to afford a fee anyway
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| Ben has removed his tweet.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"plus HKR are rumoured to have financial problems - they might not be able to afford a fee anyway'"
Another club with problems. I thought RL was doing well & growing to quote people on here.
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| HKR are stalling on the Cockayne contract it seems. The deal is agreed, but no paperwork to sign is being made available.
HKR money worries or unsure on whether they actually want BC??
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