Everyone has a price, if selling them all meant the club survived then it would have to be done. Won't sell too many season tickets on the back of it though.

The reverse is if you sell such a popular player or weaken the squad further will there be enough supporters left to save the club. I know you a relative newcomer at Wakefield Trinity therefore don't assume those on the forum represents the majority of those that paid their money last season. The people on here will support the team whatever the division they are in unfortunately I would guess that at least 3000 would not. That is the way modern sport is today everyone wants to support success or a team they think will be successful not one that is under strength and losing every week.
I now expect that because KH is being paid but not willing to put her money into the club that we will see immediate improvements and the sale of players will not be necessary.

Much of your post has merit, I have two things to add, where I differ in view.

1) as I recall the club went into free fall and fell a very long way, in the seasons following Topliss' sale... Only when he returned as coach was equilibrium restored.

2) I have seen nothing in Carter's portfolio which gives me any confidence that he is an appropriate leader for this situation.

However he is the only option, so therefore any debate about his policy is pointless. If survival is possible we cannot afford to be split... As someone who has stood amongst crowds of a few hundred at belle Vue, watching a terrible team lose consistently in lower divisions, I would say " it was still great fun"....

So whatever keeps the club alive!!

Is ok by me.

Without question there is some merit to what you say, however at a time of everyone trying to pull together - why the need to swim against the tide? things are negative enough without you adding a further level of negativity to the situation
Are you after an "i told you so medal" if you are proven to be right on something most people can second guess anyway with a little common sense, or just to be a loan voice in the wilderness that will dissapear or alter their stance to be right or take some kind of misguided high ground after being proven wrong.
I dont know, i dont get it - and to be completely fair i see no need but thats democracy i guess!!

That depends on what "the club" means

If it is sell Danny or the club will fold, of course the answer is sell

If it is sell Danny or the club will have to operate on a lower budget, possibly I'd keep, depends how that pans out but I'd like to give it a go if we could still stay in Super league, but just in lower levels.

If it is sell Danny or sell another player instead, I'd keep him.

Wrong again I am not after any medal in fact I am trying to point out how dangerous his honest approach can be because I want the club to survive in the top level. I would add that his honesty regarding KH was misinformed what good does it do pointing out that she refused to invest but is now a paid employee. I know by saying a pittance he is trying to reduce the impact of the news that she is a paid employee. It would just be better not to say anything.
With regards Aiton the statement regarding his contract could be taken to mean we get a lot out of him for what he does indicating he is paid less than some who contribute less. I.e. "Good value for money" . Honesty can be a dangerous policy all I am saying is don't assume we need to know the full details of every deal. To withhold some aspects does not detract from his honesty policy but it gives those with ill intent towards the club less ammunition.

A good sensible post....But.....Then you'd get the more negative poster stating we want more transparency! Damned if you do and damned if you don't!

I am not saying withhold all information but be selective on what you put into the public domain. We would not have known for example that KH was asked and refused to invest, by withholding this bit of the information it would not detract from the nucleus of the story.

By putting it on record that she was asked to invest, it prevents the clamour for her to invest.
Equally, if KH remains at the club for any length of time, will she become more likely to either invest personally or, to persuade others to invest.
Cant see that MC has done anything detrimental here.

It's easy to pick holes in what somebody else is doing, it's very easy to say too much or too little and either way you will get detractors.
He's put his money where his mouth is and therefore has earned done grace in my book, rather than being continually negative you should cut home some slack.
If you think you know better you know what you can do, as he has always said he would welcome someone with expertise that would benefit the club.

I think you're absolutely right with this and the comments in your previous post. Being open and honest about the financial position the club is currently in is all well and good if it encourages people to rally round and chip in where they can, but taken too far, it can have exactly the opposite effect.

If I were Kath Hetherington, I'm not sure I'd be too chuffed to read that I was being paid "a pittance" for my services either. It sounds a little demeaning. Focusing on her generosity might have been the way to go, but that's maybe easy for me to say when I'm not the one who's on the spot.

I imagine MC was trying to highlight that KH is not taking much out of the club in return for her expertise - a positive message, much of which is lost in translation without context and nuance; a good lesson in speaking to the media!

I have some sympathy with those saying that brutal honesty may not be the most helpful; honesty is good, but a bit less brutality might not go amiss.

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I agree with most of what you say here and you may be right about the honesty issue but comments from some on this subject are out of order. MC has,I believeplayed a master stroke in appointing KH,and as far as I am concerned the financial side will be in the best interests of the club,otherwise he wouldn´t have appointed her. I honestly cannot believe some of this issues questioned on here

I totally agree with you - it's a very astute bit of work by the new BoD to get her involved, no doubt about that. I just wouldn't have publicised the fact that she'd declined to invest, nor would I have described her remuneration as a pittance.

The one sure thing is that Mrs H must be "happy" with her remuneration or, surely she wouldn't have come on board.
The "pittance" comment is probably more to try and indicate to others that she perhaps isn't getting a fortune which, in difficult times and when others may have lost their jobs, wouldn't look too great.
As I mentioned elsewhere, a good consultant is worth their weight in gold, so lets hope that everyone is on a winner !

I agree with the last few posts.
Honesty does not always mean tell everybody everything.

They guy is doing his best though with fans asking for opposite things. Tough job.

Not sure why we are so interested in Kevin Henderson though. I can't imagine why he would be investing so why did we ask?

I have absolutely no problem with being told exactly how it is. It will make the decisions that will have to made by those in charge in the next couple of weeks or so easier to understand.

Absolutely this in a nutshell!!!






I for one i am glad we have two people running the club that can tell it how it is, that takes guts, honesty and a lack of ego.
IF we are in a position where further player sales are needed because of lack of funds then we cannot claim to be surprised, because it hasnt been powder coated in fluffyness in a desperate clamour to win a vanity competition.
At some point good news has to come in order for the club to progress but im happy for it to come from a platform based on fact and frankness.

As ever, it comes down to a discussion based on absolutes when in reality, that isn't what anyone has asked for; I'd suggest that there are many ways to communicate the situation that sit comfortably in between brutal truth and powder coated fluffiness.

Probably right bren, but i am far happier with truth than fluff, and being in the middle probably satisfies neither.
Its easier also to disect a speach with the luxury of hind sight than to right one.

I agree. I don't think anyone's doubting it's a fine line to draw at times, either.

it would be good to get official updates off Daddycool, on a weekly basis to keep all fans in the loop. this could be a way of saying things are going in the right direction or brace for the bad news..

I don't mind getting updates from the club via the official website, but I now think its time for Daddycool to stop posting on here.

Have we to ban him, show him who's boss ?

I am not sure if Daddy cools foolish or brave to post, I tend to have more interest in his posts than others. Only time will tell.
Daddy do you remember Les Ayres who used to be involved in the club quite some time ago. He went in to race horse training and now lives in spain I think. He put some money in to the club and always had an interest in the Trin.