O Dear. Richard Favourites Agar strikes again real shame if it means Frankie being back heeled . Also this lad wasn’t as good as Lubey . Just what is the problem with our own

Welcome on board Jon but you'll have to take you're turn has scapegoat so be warned.

Nice for us signing a young player, I wont judge him on saturday as its his first game and needs to get used to how we play. Exciting times ahead especially with the news coming on Saturday!

Kirmond Ali Mellors Mariano Walshaw and now Jon, reckon we will see some changes.

Can't speak for Jon because i just don't know but surely Lubey is being groomed and not released.

Really hope Mariano stays and Mellars is shown the door, I don't get this Mariano being lazy business, everytime I've seen him in a Wakey shirt he's always had plenty of strong runs with decent speed, knows where the try line is and runs the sort of lines Smith thrives on. Unless its his defence that lets him down ? , but I can't remember him being worse than anyone else. I wouldn't call him a potential superstar, but a likeable solid backrower that is in the same mould as Kirmond.

we need a prop and a stand off and we sign another backrow forward could be a good signing looks like big Frankie is on his way another whose face does not fit with Agar Frankie will never be a world beater but has had limited opportunity under Agar

At least three good posters have laid down massive clues as to whats wrong with Frankie. Come on folks read the whole thread and read between the lines

our website says come through wigan system ,one that was beaten three times by our 18s the year they won the title .this kid stood out so much that having watched all academy games cant think who he is . looking forward to see if he makes an impression on me now but talking about mariano as a former a coach, a second rower what 6 3 or 4 with plenty of pace would be a dream come true and to think i couldnt do owt with akid early or mid 20s who posseses these talents id look on myself as a bit of a failure

We don't know the full situation to be honest, I think we can be pretty certain that lack of ability isn't the reason he's not getting anywhere near the first team. Whatever the reason is, I'm still happy to accept Agar's decision in the matter.

So is Agar a poor coach now because he couldn't make Mariano better?
I wonder how we got him when we had no money. Surely being such a world beater he would have been snapped up?

The point is he is a very good runner of the ball but he does go missing sometimes so maybe wants someone with more all round skills. Either way Agar knows how he responds better than any of us so I'll stick with what he decides.
We've had this discussion many times and the kids who leaves has never made us regret it.

Is anyone regretting replacing Gledhill being replaced by Raleigh?

What if its Mellars that leaves and is replaced by another second rower but opens up a spot for an overseas/non fed trained halfback or prop to come in thereby not reducing the squad numbers but increasing the options.

Would make sense, Mellars has sort of sprung to life in the last few games, putting himself in the shop window perhaps?

no one ever said marino was a world beater ,said the raw materials were there and heh we dont know wether hes for the push, im saying this new signings failed a medical at salford ,dont expect you to take my word for it but having watched academy rugby for th last 3 seasons never come across this kid and think somwhere along the line id have seen or been told about him

Mariano hardly "goes missing" any more than any other player and when he plays i'd say he's the main line-breaking threat among the forwards. Think it would be a mistake to let him go and sign a guy who has hardly played because of two bad injuries. Infact, it makes zilch sense.

We will never know the full story; it's safe to assume however that if he was the world-beating prospect that some of the armchair head coaches on here would have you believe, he'd either be playing every week for us, have been signed up by a top 4 side or would be one of the players rumoured to be off to Aus. Since none of those are the case, there must be another reason that he's not a first team regular.

I'm a little confused by the signing IMHO. We need a prop and another player who can play 6 or 13 to put pressure on Sykes/Washbrook. We have lots of back rowers now unless Mariano or Mellars are going? Likely to be Mellars due to form and size of contract.

Can Molloy play 13?

Why did Salford let him go as soon as Noble arrive?

If you go on the Salford forums something about a Medical test.. Didn't read it as on my phone.

A failed medical? Yet he is playing for wakefield at weekend.... Makes sense.

Not too sure myself...

dont know what brens on about can he read english , said he was no world beater your smug attitude realy gets at me ,i aint no armchair coach either but with plenty of coaching experiance and was speaking about marianos potential to play super leaguenow if you want to take it further mate im ready ,my main post was about our new signing , dont suppose as he aint been a first teamer youl have seen him

The lad is ready to get stuck in on Saturday and get some fitness and game time under his belt, Agar is obviously satisfied with his condition otherwise he would not be here. Pleasing thing is about this signing is he's young, British, wanting to be the best he can be. Also going by what others have said has had to contend with some injuries so let's see what he does on Saturday.

I will try and assist.
He left Huddersfield last November.He was carrying an injury.Sometime between then and March this year Phil Veivers
signed him to Salford but he arrived/was announced as a signing after Veivers had been sacked.It was stated he was 3 weeks away from fitness.[url=http://www.reds.co.uk/rugby-news/reds-snap-up-molloy-on-three-year-dealSource[/url
On 25th March RLE reported that Salford had terminated his contract.Alan Hunte being quoted as saying Molloy had a knee injury and it was left in the hands of the chief executive at Salford.
A week or so ago it was reported that Molloy was going to a tribunal via the RFL regarding the matter.

It seems he has been training with your players for some time and Richard Agar is happy.
I wish the player well.It may be the timing of his arrival was the problem but a Salford follower has posted on the 'Player Movement' thread on the VT.

He had been through the Wigan academy system before he went to Huddersfield.

Agree, we haven't got a clue what goes on in training and behind close doors, whether he's lazy, bad attitude or whatever ateotd Agar is there to pick a side to win games, if Mariano isn't in the side there must be reasons and not because his 'face doesn't fit'.

Cheers.