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| Quote ="TRB"Yeah - and in their state-of-the-art stadium everything you do can be seen and if you light up / use foul language / throw something / hit someone it will be seen and you would be dealt with!'"
Belle Vue has been just fine for fans mixing for over a hundred years. Why is it suddenly inappropriate?
Quote ="TRB"You cannot compare the demands of managing the stadium between BV and the DW - they are 100 years apart, physically and metaphorically.
We all know the limitations of BV, hence the reason we've spent nearly 10 years campaigning to move out.
We have a problem at BV and whether its £1k, £20k or £100k we cannot afford to have the good work to improve the stadium / the crowds and our entertainment undone because of it. Communications aside, the club have my support in whatever action they deem fit to rid our stadium of the idiot minority; assert control and ensure we have a pleasant and safe match-day experience.
There are bigger issues to deal with than your favourite piece of concrete!'"
They have't taken the reasonable steps to deal with the issue that they could have before imposing a policy that treats us all as hooligans. Then on comes their sacrificial lamb to communicate, ties himself in knots and we're all supposed to then accept the clubs ever changing view? I think not.
I for one am offended that I cannot mix with the fans of Hull FC, Leeds, Castleford etc "for my own safety", what a load of old pap.
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| Any way,when you've all done not talking about the Wigan game,I hope Trin turn up and give it a good go.you never know Wigan could be a bit under par,ok,a lot under par,and Trin have the game of the season.As long as they give 100% that's all I can ask.that's me done,now back to where you want to stand if you want.
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| Quote ="violetrwb"They have't taken the reasonable steps to deal with the issue'"
So let me just get this straight - because I don't think you've made yourself very clear; you don't think the club have taken steps to deal with the issues of anti-social behaviour that have occurred in some recent games?
Is that about right? Worth checking like, because frankly, I think you've been a bit vague up to now.
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| =#FF0080This is the Wigan topic thread, its for posters who wish to discuss the game.
Please don't de-rail.
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| Obviously I hope we win the game but more importantly for me is the performance.
In this game against Wigan I'd like to see us cut out the mistakes. Play some good intelligent RL, where we know when to keep it tight and know when to play a bit more off the cuff. Do that and we won't be too far off.
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| Quote ="bren2k"So let me just get this straight - because I don't think you've made yourself very clear; you don't think the club have taken steps to deal with the issues of anti-social behaviour that have occurred in some recent games?
Is that about right? Worth checking like, because frankly, I think you've been a bit vague up to now.'"
Its a load of Rhubarb, thats for sure.
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| Moving back to the game.
I don't think that we are in for a thrashing.
Ok, Wigan are strong favourites and will probably take the 2 points.
However RA should be telling the players that Wigan think we are so poor that they can afford to rest half of their superstars and still turn us over.
Time for our senior players to stand up and show the mighty Wigan that they need a full strength team to beat us.
Come on Trin !
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| We have a real chance if we control our own game and therefore limit Wigans opportunities. Keep the errors and penalties down and restrict their time on the ball and hopefully drain their energy.
The downside is that we haven't seen much of us playing that way this year!
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| A good kicking game is essential to compete with teams like Wigan, sadly after Monday's debacle I can't see it happening. Agar needs to get Sykes kicking early in the tackle count and pin them down where they can't be any danger. We need to get back to basics and reduce the error count, then hope Wigan make handling mistakes so we can punish. Easier said than done but fingers crossed.
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| The only place Wigan can't be of any danger is in the changing rooms with the door locked from the outside!
Seriously we could land the ball on the angle between the touchline and the dead ball line and I still wouldn’t put it past them to score at the other end.
they are structurally and systematically the best team in the country and its those patterns that are so integral throughout their club that allow so many youngsters to seamlessly drop into the first team with little or no loss of quality.
Take out Tomkins, Charnley, O'Loughlin et al and theres a dip but a very tiny one, that said the margins between a heavy loss and win are bus ticket thin and if, IF we get on our game right from the off we can test them with that team of youngsters even on their own gound and with a bit of luck we could nick it.
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| Vasty - did you not get the -na na na I still say if we play as we did on Monday we will get a thumping.If we play to our best and get among them as we did at home last season for the first 20/25 mins then we can do it.We have to get among them and stop them getting going and frustrate them for the whole game but the way things have gone so far I cant see it happening.
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| We can win this easy........
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| Would like to think Tim Smith will have a big game, but only looks as good as the players running for him. Mathers is one who should be up for it as well. They should play tomorrow with no pressure on them as they are expected to lose.
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"We can win this easy........
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Good man, now go shoot your self see you tomorrow when we win
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| I like the way Agar has talked up the game. Just express yourselves, you've nothing to lose. That has to be the right way. No point in in trying to outhink them or outmuscle them. Approach should be tough in defence and cavalier in attack, and you never know,
Every champion side loses unexpectedly. It's always the game where they take their eye off the ball. I'll be happy if the game is close and entertaining.
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| Quote ="The Clan"
Take out Tomkins, Charnley, O'Loughlin et al and theres a dip but a very tiny one, that said the margins between a heavy loss and win are bus ticket thin and if, IF we get on our game right from the off we can test them with that team of youngsters even on their own gound and with a bit of luck we could nick it.'"
Sorry but i think this could be way out. I saw some stats about their win rate without him, and it was staggering (to me least). I can't remember what it was but I don't think it was top eight form. Certainly not too four anyway. Something like 4 wins from 11, but no idea where I saw it.
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| Quote ="The Clan"The only place Wigan can't be of any danger is in the changing rooms with the door locked from the outside!
Seriously we could land the ball on the angle between the touchline and the dead ball line and I still wouldn’t put it past them to score at the other end.
they are structurally and systematically the best team in the country and its those patterns that are so integral throughout their club that allow so many youngsters to seamlessly drop into the first team with little or no loss of quality.
Take out Tomkins, Charnley, O'Loughlin et al and theres a dip but a very tiny one, that said the margins between a heavy loss and win are bus ticket thin and if, IF we get on our game right from the off we can test them with that team of youngsters even on their own gound and with a bit of luck we could nick it.'"
Classy Cas gave them a run for their money so there's hope for any team, admittedly they will need to spill the ball quite a bit but it's up to our pack to put them under pressure. If we roll over and do a Hull K.R. then I fear we will lose to all the top 8 candidates this season.
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| Quote ="TLeeLegend"Classy Cas gave them a run for their money so there's hope for any team, admittedly they will need to spill the ball quite a bit but it's up to our pack to put them under pressure. If we roll over and do a Hull K.R. then I fear we will lose to all the top 8 candidates this season.'"
I think that Wigan are more than "top 8 candidates" and anything against them would be a HUGE bonus.
It's how we perform against the lower teams and those around us that will define the season and we
certainly need to improve on the poor form shown against Hull and Salford.
Although it was great to beat Cas, that isn't exactly a mark of progress, bearing in mind their current
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| We have a quality side, one that CAN beat ANY side on its day. That day will come when you least expect it, when the opposition is expected to walk it, when they have a few players out or rested and when our side are at full strength and coming off the back of a dismal performance.
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| TRB - I agree we are a classy side and on our day can match and beat anyone trouble is Hudds apart we aint done our selves justice so far for 80 mins this season.
We proved last season we can score trys with and against the best trouble is we can let them in with the worst at times.
We need to get back to that will to win mentality we had at the back end of last season and damn sharp.
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| No Kirmond according to Yorkshire radio. The task just got a lot harder
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| Sounds like they are without Richards.
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| Lee Smith starting which is a bonus. We seem to have more of a spark when he is on the field
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