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| Quote ="asmadasa. It would be ironic if they won the play offs at the end of the season
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"They're probably gonna be given it!
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Maybe they can then sell the trophy to raise some more funds! Perhaps the person who bought Fielden's Grand Final Ring would like a trophy to match!
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| A bid expected tomorrow from ABC dependent on SL guarantee and buying odsal lease.
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| ABC intend to line the Odsal Bowl with Aluminium Foil and create the worlds biggest Korma. The Denby Dale PIe will look miniscule in comparison.
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| Quote ="PopTart"With an extra 5 for original word used in context and spelt correctly on the forum'"
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"The wage bill will be massively reduced next year even if we retain SL status. We currently have 17 or so players coming off contract. I'd be surprised if we retain people like Elima for instance. The only players of any value are probably the young players like Bateman and Whitehead that we have spent a lot of time, money and effort in bringing through to 1st team. Anyone investing in the club with any sense will be looking to re-build the club around those players. If we don't get a firm offer pretty soon I expect there will be little choice but to [size=200flog the likes of Bateman[/size and some supporters will get what they've been hoping for.'"
should have donre that 6 months ago feel sorry for the supporters but this is now a total farce
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| i think people from other clubs forget one thing.when we beat featherstone to get a chance to get into super league we had along wait before we were accepted,it was only the generosity of the first division clubs to fund us.we got nothing from super league at all now we have a club who the rl are bending over backwards for so much for equell rights
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"ABC intend to line the Odsal Bowl with Aluminium Foil and create the worlds biggest Korma. The Denby Dale PIe will look miniscule in comparison.'"
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| Was just on the RFL website, wanting to tell them what i think....... Found this next to: Careers with the RFL, Nice.
In 2008, we developed with our employees, the RFL’s core values. Since then, we’ve been working together to deliver our shared values and principles. These can be summarised under four key headings:
Fair - We’re open, honest and inclusive; demonstrating integrity to all.
Care - We care for our stakeholders, the environment and the sport.
Share - We share through teamwork, open communication, and spreading best practice.
Dare - We dare to achieve our objectives through innovation.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"A bid expected tomorrow from ABC dependent on SL guarantee and buying odsal lease.
This is an interesting corner for the RFL to work themselves out of.'"
That is a load of cack. AG was not promised SL when he took over WTW so why should the new BB get a guarantee. Talk about one rule for one and another rule for others. Never mind, no Peters pie at half time but they do a great curry.
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| and on and on... [urlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/9820155.Bradford_Bulls_can_rise_again_____just_like_Wildcats/?ref=rss[/url
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| Quote ="El Rey"Korma pie is fine by me
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Chicken Tarka for me, its like a chicken Tikka only a little otter.
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| Quote ="Trinity 64"Chicken Tarka for me, its like a chicken Tikka only a little otter.'"
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"and on and on... [urlhttp://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/9820155.Bradford_Bulls_can_rise_again_____just_like_Wildcats/?ref=rss[/url'"
How can BenJeffries compare wakefield and Bulls. He jumped ship as soon as he could find another club to have him!!!
Wakefield got no superleague guarentees when andrew glover took us over, looks like the only way bradford are going to be taken over is if they get the lease back for the ground and a superleague guaretee.
How can the RFL agree to this and still be a fair body?? They may as well tell all championship clubs not to bother applying for superleague as the RFL will just do what they want.
Put it to a vote with the other superleague chairmen, see what they want.
I'd like to see the same points deductions that ourselves and crusaders got for our administration last season.
But the RFL could follow scottish football's lead due to the size of the debts and put them in the lowest league.
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| When this ABC consortium put their offer to the RFL I wonder if their business plan will be passed on to the auditors for full checking as per the last round of pre franchise checks?
How many weeks did it take for the applications to be fully vetted last time? Obviously not long enough with Bradford going belly up so quickly.
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| Selling players is a way of clearing liabilities, which is something our administrator did to enable a buyer to be found and have more money for creditors, I assume (don't creditors get a certain pence in the pound?). If the Bulls administrator can sell the business without getting rid of players, fair play to him. Nothing to do with the RFL, who have simply advanced money the Bulls were due, money the new owners will now not get.
The thing to watch, and only thing to watch, is what happens to Odsal. If the RFL give it to the new owners, or sell it at a substantial loss, there is clearly favouritism, as then they have simply given the Bulls a huge wedge of cash. All ABC are doing are firming up what they said last week. It doesn't mean the RFL concerns have changed.
I have no problems with the Bulls being allowed to continue in Super League. We were, right up to the franchise decision, and the same has to apply to the Bulls. If they go bust, which they haven't, different things might apply. The RFL have done nothing different during the administration that they did to us;, i.e., they let the administrator get on with it.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Selling players is a way of clearing liabilities, which is something our administrator did to enable a buyer to be found and have more money for creditors, I assume (don't creditors get a certain pence in the pound?). If the Bulls administrator can sell the business without getting rid of players, fair play to him. Nothing to do with the RFL, who have simply advanced money the Bulls were due, money the new owners will now not get.
The thing to watch, and only thing to watch, is what happens to Odsal. If the RFL give it to the new owners, or sell it at a substantial loss, there is clearly favouritism, as then they have simply given the Bulls a huge wedge of cash. All ABC are doing are firming up what they said last week. It doesn't mean the RFL concerns have changed.
I have no problems with the Bulls being allowed to continue in Super League. We were, right up to the franchise decision, and the same has to apply to the Bulls. If they go bust, which they haven't, different things might apply. The RFL have done nothing different during the administration that they did to us;, i.e., they let the administrator get on with it.'"
This is what I was pointing out last week - the ABC consortium, or whatever they're called, were willing to invest £1M to save the Bulls - bearing in mind that the lease was bought for £1.25M can't see how they can be considered as realistic buyers as that leaves them £1/4 M short before even considering wages and ongoing costs etc.
Any agreement to give them the lease back for less than the RFL paid for it will be an absolute disgrace.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Selling players is a way of clearing liabilities, which is something our administrator did to enable a buyer to be found and have more money for creditors, I assume (don't creditors get a certain pence in the pound?). If the Bulls administrator can sell the business without getting rid of players, fair play to him. Nothing to do with the RFL, who have simply advanced money the Bulls were due, money the new owners will now not get.
The thing to watch, and only thing to watch, is what happens to Odsal. If the RFL give it to the new owners, or sell it at a substantial loss, there is clearly favouritism, as then they have simply given the Bulls a huge wedge of cash. All ABC are doing are firming up what they said last week. It doesn't mean the RFL concerns have changed.
I have no problems with the Bulls being allowed to continue in Super League. We were, right up to the franchise decision, and the same has to apply to the Bulls. If they go bust, which they haven't, different things might apply. The RFL have done nothing different during the administration that they did to us;, i.e., they let the administrator get on with it.'"
Fully agree. If they're not liquidated then Bradford should be able to carry on in SL when they come out of administration. The precedent has already been set up first with Crusaders and subsequently Trinty. The RFL should hold onto Odsal until they get the games money back. If they offload it for a loss then that's less money that will be available to the next club that comes into difficulties.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Selling players is a way of clearing liabilities, which is something our administrator did to enable a buyer to be found and have more money for creditors, I assume (don't creditors get a certain pence in the pound?). If the Bulls administrator can sell the business without getting rid of players, fair play to him. Nothing to do with the RFL, who have simply advanced money the Bulls were due, money the new owners will now not get.
The thing to watch, and only thing to watch, is what happens to Odsal. If the RFL give it to the new owners, or sell it at a substantial loss, there is clearly favouritism, as then they have simply given the Bulls a huge wedge of cash. All ABC are doing are firming up what they said last week. It doesn't mean the RFL concerns have changed.
I have no problems with the Bulls being allowed to continue in Super League. We were, right up to the franchise decision, and the same has to apply to the Bulls. If they go bust, which they haven't, different things might apply. The RFL have done nothing different during the administration that they did to us;, i.e., they let the administrator get on with it.'"
Surely there is an issue with the RFL advancing cash to keep them afloat. Why wasn't this done for us ?
Also, from the gossip that has come out surrounding the new consortium, it would appear that their main interest has less to do with saving a RL club and more to do with getting hold of the Coral stand, to use it for non rugby related purposes.
There will need to be some cast iron assurances to prevent the Bulls moving to Valley Parade and leaving the new owners with some very cheap real estate.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"The RFL have done nothing different during the administration that they did to us;, i.e., they let the administrator get on with it.'"
Fair point. I think one thing that may be overlooked when we compare our administration with the Bulls is that the Bulls have gone bust during the season, so they still have some revenue streams coming in through gate receipts and the like to pay for some of the running costs. We were left high and dry on that score, which might explain the player sales. AFAIK, the RFL advanced us money to cover wages too.
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| Turns out the next club to hit the wall could be Salford if the thread on the VT is to be believed.
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| Quote ="Fordy"Any agreement to give them the lease back for less than the RFL paid for it will be an absolute disgrace.'"
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| Quote ="Fordy"This is what I was pointing out last week - the ABC consortium, or whatever they're called, were willing to invest £1M to save the Bulls - bearing in mind that the lease was bought for £1.25M can't see how they can be considered as realistic buyers as that leaves them £1/4 M short before even considering wages and ongoing costs etc.
Any agreement to give them the lease back for less than the RFL paid for it will be an absolute disgrace.'"
May be that the 1/4 million will be made up realistically on the sale of players such as Bateman to Warrington and others elsewhere should the club be taken over? It looks like they may have to build up a depleted squad as the figures don't seem to add up and there isn't a queue of potential buyers.
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| Quote ="Fordy"This is what I was pointing out last week - the ABC consortium, or whatever they're called, were willing to invest £1M to save the Bulls - bearing in mind that the lease was bought for £1.25M can't see how they can be considered as realistic buyers as that leaves them £1/4 M short before even considering wages and ongoing costs etc.
[uAny agreement to give them the lease back for less than the RFL paid for it will be an absolute disgrace.[/u'"
I presume The Rugby Football League ltd have a responsibility to its shareholders,the shareholders are the RFL(presume thats all the member clubs).
Therefore i would imagine if the directors of the RFL ltd sold the lease back at a loss they would leave themselves open to questions been asked by the shareholders and could face a vote of no confidence?
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"I presume The Rugby Football League ltd have a responsibility to its shareholders,the shareholders are the RFL(presume thats all the member clubs).
Therefore i would imagine if the directors of the RFL ltd sold the lease back at a loss they would leave themselves open to questions been asked by the shareholders and could face a vote of no confidence?'"
They should IMO be given a vote of no confidence anyway on the back of numerous bad decisions.
Even if they were can they be forced out?? I suspect they would just do their usual trick and brazen it out, giving us some nonsensical reasons for doing what they did and expect everyone to just swallow it. That seems to be their usual Modus Operandi
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