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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"
If Eric Pickles office was going to turn this down... I think they would have done it weeks ago!!!'"
I think this is 100% correct, far easier to have published a negative decision than a positive one as the objectors will be happy and the supporters would quietly sulk in the corner, if/when the positive decision is made, the objectors will not sulk quietly off they will still rant and clutch at straws, the SoS needs to remove the straws before the announcement
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| As I said last week, my feelings on the outcome shift momentarily. It's the current government that scare me, they seem to be able to produce an impeccable form of incompetence.
From pensions to granny taxes to deporting innocent citizens/retaining dangerous foreign nationals- you name it, they've messed it up!
Worst part is as an ex libdem voter I feel more disenfranchised than most.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I think this is spot on! I think this delay is all about a clear and transparent justification of a positive outcome and not about delaying a negative decision!
If Eric Pickles office was going to turn this down... I think they would have done it weeks ago!!!'" Or to play devils advocate he is delaying it to a give clear and transparent justification of a negative outcome.
I think it will be passed myself but there are 2 ways to look at it.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Or to play devils advocate he is delaying it to a give clear and transparent justification of a negative outcome.
I think it will be passed myself but there are 2 ways to look at it.'"
Didn't see it quite that way, but to play the same card - if the case is watertight, you don't need to wait for anything. The new legislation would surely put pay to any lingering arguments.
HOWEVER, as Sandal Cat has stated, it's not really about that, it's about closing any legal loopholes that may exist between the new legislation coming into effect and the propositions that were put forward prior to this.
For the sake of 20 days, I'd be prepared to wait.
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| Quote ="jacques"Comments by whom?
To give the anti lobby further time to formulate protests.
I smell a rat I am afraid.
I hate to say it , but this is just what my experience in life led me to expect.'"
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| Quote ="kinleycat"This is an absolute joke!!!
The new framework makes NM a certainty so why on earth they need another month is beyond me!!!!
Frustration overload!!!!!'"
Keep hitting it into the long grass...hope it goes away. Old political tactic. There'll be more reasons to delay, mark my words
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| We have been unlucky with the timing of this PI. First it was the localism act delaying the LDF, then the new planning act coming in before the outcome is released. The SOS could have proceeded under the old rules as that was what the planning was judged against but can also use the new rules as the dcision is still pending. With the delay in publication of the LDF, which is very much in favour of deveolping the site, the 30th may was always going to be tight if Mr Pickles wanted to judge it against that. The delay gives him that opportunity. And judging it against the new criteria also makes it even more likely that a positive outcome will happen. It is very pro development but it also means that one or two legalities have to be covered to ensure there is no comeback. If he was going to reject it then it would have been easier to do it now using the old rules. I get the feeling Mr Pickles wants to pass this and is using every way possible to justify doing so even if it means delaying it slightly. Its an inconvenience, but ultimately ad strange as it may seem, it is a promising development.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Didn't see it quite that way, but to play the same card - if the case is watertight, you don't need to wait for anything. The new legislation would surely put pay to any lingering arguments.
HOWEVER, as Sandal Cat has stated, it's not really about that, it's about closing any legal loopholes that may exist between the new legislation coming into effect and the propositions that were put forward prior to this.
For the sake of 20 days, I'd be prepared to wait.'" Oh indeed.
But I wouldn't use the delay to try and make a case either way is my point.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"But I wouldn't use the delay to try and make a case either way is my point.'"
Most of us on here aint buying till our s are sweating in the plastic buckets, don't you worry. And if we don't get them, we'll go to plan 'K'.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Most of us on here aint buying till our s are sweating in the plastic buckets, don't you worry. And if we don't get them, we'll go to plan 'K'.'" And if that doesn't work out you at least have 15 more plans to go.
I think it WILL get passed BTW.
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| 19th of June 2012, is my 65 th birthday
Retire, get my OAP, and the best present of all,
Newmarket, signed, sealed, and almost deivered
Yippee. !!!!!!
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"And if that doesn't work out you at least have 15 more plans to go.
I think it WILL get passed BTW.'"
Unfortunately, plans K+15+whatever will probably not see us with a SL license.
Most of us think it will be passed too, but we've had enough knocks to remain modest about our aspirations for the future. If it does come off, meet the future big time charlies!
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Keep hitting it into the long grass...hope it goes away. Old political tactic. There'll be more reasons to delay, mark my words'"
I think if that was the case he'd have kicked it further back than 20 days.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Unfortunately, plans K+15+whatever will probably not see us with a SL license.
Most of us think it will be passed too, but we've had enough knocks to remain modest about our aspirations for the future. If it does come off, meet the future big time charlies!
'" Nah out £8M stand is already underway and we have to remind some of our local 'cousins' that they said it wasn't gunna happen
Infact I would rather we were bigtime harry's myself
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| I'll be in Amsterdam when the news comes out. Might have a long cigarette if it's good news.
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| According to 'international business guru and wealth creator' Feisal Nahaboo, who has a habit of posting rambling and largely nonsensical essays on the 'other' cas forum, we're doomed:
Quote My belief is wake are in danger. They have already gone into administration.'"
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| Quote ="bren2k"According to 'international business guru and wealth creator' Feisal Nahaboo, who has a habit of posting rambling and largely nonsensical essays on the 'other' cas forum, we're doomed:
What a pillock.'"
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Keep hitting it into the long grass...hope it goes away. Old political tactic. There'll be more reasons to delay, mark my words'"
You're by far the most negative poster I've had the mis fortune to come across,are you victor meldrews negative brother?
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| Quote ="JINJER"You're by far the most negative poster I've had the mis fortune to come across,are you victor meldrews negative brother?'"
He's defo up there.
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| Quote ="bren2k"According to 'international business guru and wealth creator' Feisal Nahaboo, who has a habit of posting rambling and largely nonsensical essays on the 'other' cas forum, we're doomed:
What a pillock.'"
He lives in cloud cuckoo land that one. But he keeps doing a good job of getting them arguing over there with his ramblings full of bs. Quite a clever move if you think about it, divide and conquer and all that.
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| Quote ="bren2k"According to 'international business guru and wealth creator' Feisal Nahaboo, who has a habit of posting rambling and largely nonsensical essays on the 'other' cas forum, we're doomed:
What a pillock.'"
I found Lost easier to follow than Feisal's forum posts. I hope he doesn't email his clients in the same way.
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| Quote ="JINJER"You're by far the most negative poster I've had the mis fortune to come across,are you victor meldrews negative brother?'"
We'll see. I'll happily eat my words if all you optimists are correct. 42 years of general incompetence, hollow promises, botched plans etc tends to take its toll....and this whole new ground story has had more underground shenanagans than an episode of the West Wing. As I say, glad to be wrong
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"We'll see. I'll happily eat my words if all you optimists are correct. 42 years of general incompetence, hollow promises, botched plans etc tends to take its toll....and this whole new ground story has had more underground shenanagans than an episode of the West Wing. As I say, glad to be wrong'"
I rest my case!!!
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"We'll see. I'll happily eat my words if all you optimists are correct. 42 years of general incompetence, hollow promises, botched plans etc tends to take its toll....and this whole new ground story has had more underground shenanagans than an episode of the West Wing. As I say, glad to be wrong'"
I bet you really are the life and soul of a party you.
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| Quote ="sixtogo" I get the feeling Mr Pickles wants to pass this and is using every way possible to justify doing so even if it means delaying it slightly. Its an inconvenience, but ultimately ad strange as it may seem, it is a promising development.'"
Let's keep our fingers crossed that Mr Pickles has had a change of heart from his previous views on green belt development (see link below)
=#FF0000Removed. Please don't post links to Youtube on this forum.
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