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| Quote ="wwildcat48"I dont base my comments on whispers or rumours i see on here.
where did you get the theory of limited places mate ? A first team squad is a squad end of. Did Leeds or other clubs leave ANY of their FIRST TEAM SQUAD behind....? Was there only limited seats available on the flights ? No
Apparently Catalans funded this and if this is true then couldnt the club pay for the extra few rather than demoralising them ? even if the club paid would you leave 3 or 4 out ?'"
Apparently they did and it was limited to a certain number 30 I believe. Get over it there will be 17 playing on Friday night that leaves around 13 out of the team I dont get your point
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| Quote ="wwildcat48"
Matt James has been one of the better forwards in pre season, head and shoulders above Raleigh, so why on earth would he be loaned out when there is a shortage now?
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sure he has. With the nick name of Feka and being loaned out, its obvious he is the wildcats go to forward. The fact is that Andy is a seasoned pro who is one of the top forwards in all testing and has been asked to train the youngsters in wrestling as the wakey kids have had little or no coaching in it and coming from the Giants he knows a fair bit. The is no need for you to have an apoplectic rant when someone under 25 goes on loan.
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| Quote ="ry21"From what i can gather, RA rates Matty quite highly and has been impressed with his attitude and work ethic in training, just like the other coaching staff have been aswell. I'm not his biggest fan off the field (yes i know him) but from what i've seen of him so far, he get's my backing 100% whilst wearing the Red, White and Blue. If someting has happened off the field it would appear that it has happened between Saturday and this being announced, pretty quick turnaround and highly unlikely IMO. I think some people should give the guy a break and give him chance to develop. After all he's still relatively young for a prop and hasn't been in a full time environment very long.'"
He needs to keep his fat mouth shut, first he was slating barrow on twitter and now it's agar on twitter. He is trouble and thinks he is better than he actually is. Arrogance gets a player no where. Ask yourself why he has had so many clubs since being shown the door at bulls!!
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"He needs to keep his fat mouth shut, first he was slating barrow on twitter and now it's agar on twitter. He is trouble and thinks he is better than he actually is. Arrogance gets a player no where. Ask yourself why he has had so many clubs since being shown the door at bulls!!'"
I know exactly what he's like thank you and not just as a supporter of a rugby club. I didn't defend anything he had done just that i thought it unlikely. If as you say he has been slating Agar on Twitter, then i'm sure it will be dealt with in an appropriate manner. Me, you, or anyone slating him on a public forum isn't going to make the situation any better.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"icon_lol.gif
sure he has. With the nick name of Feka and being loaned out, its obvious he is the wildcats go to forward. The fact is that Andy is a seasoned pro who is one of the top forwards in all testing and has been asked to train the youngsters in wrestling as the wakey kids have had little or no coaching in it and coming from the Giants he knows a fair bit. The is no need for you to have an apoplectic rant when someone under 25 goes on loan.'"
That one made me laugh......
If he is good at wrestling priase the lord ! let start a wrestling club.
He always was a steady eddie in his prime and he isnt a prop and if he stays injury free, a big if based on so far, he will hardly crack any pots and if you believe he has been better than James up to press you need to see a shrink.
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| Thanks for your analysis on preseason training Mr. Agar. Whether you like it or not wrestling is a massive part of the game and if we don't know how to slow teams down, we will lose. You have just shown you know very little but can shout very loud. Are you matt's dad?
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| Remember props are going to be used differently this year as well because of the subs rule, so gone are the days of a couple of props on the subs bench. You will be looking at probably one to rotate with the props expected to do a lot more game time than previous seasons. So it makes total sense to keep some one like James in game time just has RA is doing with Amor this weekend 'playing him in'. Also with Wilkes back and hopefully fit you will probably have both him and Amor starting at Widnes with just one back up prop on the bench.
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| Quote ="The Trip"Remember props are going to be used differently this year as well because of the subs rule, so gone are the days of a couple of props on the subs bench. You will be looking at probably one to rotate with the props expected to do a lot more game time than previous seasons. So it makes total sense to keep some one like James in game time just has RA is doing with Amor this weekend 'playing him in'. Also with Wilkes back and hopefully fit you will probably have both him and Amor starting at Widnes with just one back up prop on the bench.'"
Sorry but I think your wrong on this one. Take a look at the NRL where 10 interchanges has been in operation for a few years. All that has changed is that props are a bit fitter and do 3 or 4 extra minutes each during a stint. Everything else is the same, including the amount they use and the size they are. We are a prop short but the chances of that changing now are slim so we may as well just get on with it.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"icon_lol.gif Thanks for your analysis on preseason training Mr. Agar. Whether you like it or not wrestling is a massive part of the game and if we don't know how to slow teams down, we will lose. You have just shown you know very little but can shout very loud. Are you matt's dad?'"
lets get hulk hogan in then we must be certain to make the play offs !!.....ok those are the new tactics everyone....if we slow teams down we win ! Its lets hope no other team are reading this and know the plan !
i am fully aware of training techniques thanks but I am not having a battle of wits with a clearly unarmed man !
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| ALL teams coach wrestling at all levels, why would wakey be different?
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| No idea, you'd have to ask john kear. all I know is that the young wakey kids were very inexperienced and needed help. The wakey lads were not used to playing with systems for different game situations either which has taken a bit of getting used to as well. But things are coming along nicely
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| Quote ="wwildcat48"lets get hulk hogan in then we must be certain to make the play offs !!.....ok those are the new tactics everyone....if we slow teams down we win ! Its lets hope no other team are reading this and know the plan !
i am fully aware of training techniques thanks but I am not having a battle of wits with a clearly unarmed man !'"
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| What has been said about agar on twitter by James then because it didn't show up on my feed?
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| Quote ="Theboyem"ALL teams coach wrestling at all levels, why would wakey be different?'"
correct and anyone knows that........but according to mable Syrup aka Vince Mcmahon the wakefield lads were so poor at wrestling they had to call on Andy Raleigh's vast experience from wrestling at the giants to show them how to win games !!! Lol a classic
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| you are angry aren't you. There has been a regime change from top to bottom as things needed to change. If you can't see or understand that, and have to get aggressive and insult people when they tell you something you either don't believe or can't understand, then a public forum may not be the best place for you.
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| WWWILCAT48 The other week you came on the forum spouting on about we would never see moore or james in a wakefield shirt!
when they both played against sheffield you deleted your post! Is it because you were left with runny egg all down your face.
Why dont you leave Agar to run the team afairs stop knocking him and for a change try supporting our club instead of trying to bring it down. What i saw last sunday was the best rugby seen at belle vue for a long time yet you keep slagging Agar off! Give the bloke a chance stop spreading roumors and get behind the club.
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| Ever since friday 7th oct 2011 wwildcat48 has been slagging agar off!
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| Agar is a top bloke in friends with a lot of wakey fans are they all have faith in him, of he ha taken 'trouble' matt James out of the wildcats equation then there is a reason. Wakey may shock a feWw teams this year. In agar we trust!
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| Agar praised James when he played against Catalan, so don't know where this rumour has come from!
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| i probably get shot down for saying this, but really feel we could do with another prop that could make the hard yards required to get the backs moving, think we alittle light in this area but hope i am wrong as think rest of team is shaping up nicely tbh , lets hope we can get 2 points at widnes on friday
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| Quote ="wwildcat48"correct and anyone knows that........but according to mable Syrup aka Vince Mcmahon the wakefield lads were so poor at wrestling they had to call on Andy Raleigh's vast experience from wrestling at the giants to show them how to win games !!! Lol a classic
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In the last few years this forum has collected a number of posters like you. In the know, can't be challenged and always always knowing better that the incumbent Coach. However you are without doubt the worst of the breed so far.
I actually feel sorry for you, such deluded self regard and importance cannot be easy to live with - trust me I know. Plenty have come before you, made themselves look foolish and gone - so turn the light off on your way out.
Oh and to all those joining in this ludicrous, pointless, groundless and boring prop obsession - he's gone for a month - yes a whole month - are we really going to miss our 5th/6th choice prop that much for four games - get a grip folks.
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| Quote ="griswold63"i probably get shot down for saying this, but really feel we could do with another prop that could make the hard yards required to get the backs moving, think we alittle light in this area but hope i am wrong as think rest of team is shaping up nicely tbh , lets hope we can get 2 points at widnes on friday'"
We have been through this as length - we have 6 props - the four starting props are all on the larger size. Plus in Marriano and Ali L we have two of the bigger S/R in the game.
I honestly don't think it possible to please Trinity fans. If we signed another prop we'd have to another group saying we were light on wingers or half backs - it never ends.
As it happens I think props and halfbacks are the two main areas to build and I'm happy enough with both compared to last year - Rome was not built in a day. Another would be nice but it's hardly worth the obsession on here.
Still I'm sure every loss rightly or wrongly will be blamed on that missing extra prop.
Come on everyone it's getting a bit repetitive especially for those who just want to get on and enjoy the season including the players
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| Quote ="vastman"We have been through this as length - we have 6 props - the four starting props are all on the larger size. Plus in Marriano and Ali L we have two of the bigger S/R in the game.
I honestly don't think it possible to please Trinity fans. If we signed another prop we'd have to another group saying we were light on wingers or half backs - it never ends.
As it happens I think props and halfbacks are the two main areas to build and I'm happy enough with both compared to last year - Rome was not built in a day. Another would be nice but it's hardly worth the obsession on here.
Still I'm sure every loss rightly or wrongly will be blamed on that missing extra prop.
Come on everyone it's getting a bit repetitive especially for those who just want to get on and enjoy the season including the players
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Think you are wrong, we are short of a prop
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| We could be short a certain kind of prop - the gnarly, tackle-busting, impact kind - and if one becomes available, I'm sure we'll be in for him.
In the meantime, we'll be ok; must be a bit disheartening for the likes of Wilkes, Amor and Raleigh, to hear that despite all their hard work, a large contingent of fans don't think they're good enough or big enough.
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