Absolutely.

I also agree with the proposal to support Crusaders by taking Jarrod Sammut off their wage bill; it's the least we could do.

Hope they pull through, I for one still want a welsh representation in SL. But I want them to be economically viable like the rest of us have to be. FWIW I think SL rushed them. If 3 years in the championship is what it takes to get them back in a position to move forward then so be it. Same applies for us.

There is a rumour going round that the RFL have asked the other super league clubs to bend the rules and allow crusaders to stay in super league next season as well as them getting a franchise in 2012. The proviso would be that a championship club will still be promoted but nobody will be relagated and super league will be expanded to 15.

If that rumour is true it makes our 'sport' look like an embarrasment.

Rules change year on year and now to suit events.

Its as controlled as WWE wrestling!

The whole idea of licensing makes it a joke already but if what i have heard is allowed to happen then there will be zero credibility for the sport.

True, if were going down this road we may as well give development clubs 12 point start every game they play.

It is getting that way isn't it

If this rumour turns out to be accurate then the RFL might as well just say that expansion clubs will be in SL as long as they exist and need not apply for a license. It’s out in the open and honest and allows the clubs to focus entirely on development. That way everyone knows where they stand so there should be none of the second guessing that we are witnessing now.

One thing is for sure, such a scenario would certainly get the RFL out of a hole with regards to licensing if all vulnerable clubs delivered on facilities.

Absolute joke, don't how know accurate this article is. 3 names in 3 years, what kind of business is this? What kind of organisation allows such a business to be part of there organisation, only the RFL could! Quote SUPER League side Crusaders RL are unlikely to survive a winding-up court date on Tuesday. But rugby league insiders insist Wales will have a team in next year’s Super League – and it will be called ‘The Welsh Crusaders.’'" To think Wakey Cas or Salford could go to make way for these jokers. I hope all the threatened clubs have consulted lawyers on legality of been kicked out when these lot are been kept in. Read More www.walesonline.co.uk/sports/spo ... z14JhrRJfk www.walesonline.co.uk/sports/spo ... -27596732/

Absolute joke, don't how know accurate this article is. 3 names in 3 years, what kind of business is this? What kind of organisation allows such a business to be part of there organisation, only the RFL could! Quote SUPER League side Crusaders RL are unlikely to survive a winding-up court date on Tuesday. But rugby league insiders insist Wales will have a team in next year’s Super League – and it will be called ‘The Welsh Crusaders.’'" To think Wakey Cas or Salford could go to make way for these jokers. I hope all the threatened clubs have consulted lawyers on legality of been kicked out when these lot are been kept in. Read More www.walesonline.co.uk/sports/spo ... z14JhrRJfk www.walesonline.co.uk/sports/spo ... -27596732/

Looking at it selfishly, if the rumour is true and means that neither us nor Cas gets relegated, then bring it on. Newmarket would definitely be done then and so our future is secure in the long term. Hell, even Glasshoughton might get finished.

There would be no detriment to the lower league clubs, as Crusaders going pop would just answer the relegation question that is vexing us and Cas.

If the Crusaders go into administration, how can they be allowed to continue in SL let alone be gauranteed of the next 3 year licence, when the main reason given to Widnes for their unsuccesful licence bid last time round was the fact that they'd entered administration in 2007?

We all know this but this is the RFL we are talking about.

Yes i agree with you 100% Anything to help our australian "whoops" welsh friends out.

Oh yeah forgot about that.......

Can't see this being true, and even if it was there is almost no chance of the Chairman of SL Clubs voting for this. Why would 13 chairman, of which all bar maybe Hudds, Wire and possibly Hull FC are relying on a set amount of Sky money to get them through the year vote to reduce their share of the pot?

Take out the bit about expanding to 15 clubs and you'll be a lot closer to what is really happening!

Now that would be completely unfair.

Well that's the RFL for you!

What excactly do you know - are we about to get royally stiffed?

I'm guessing the club who loses out is about to get shafted.

As in, no promoting of a championship club and the league stays as it is, or license applications as normal and lets all ignore the administration (if it happens). I realise that both are equally unfair, and I'm happy with neither, but as a Wakey fan one of those options makes me a hell of a lot more angry than the other!

FWIW, I really quite like the Crusaders fans, and I have a real soft spot for them. The way the club is run is ridiculous, but it's hardly their fault. It's be a shame if they went under.

So it's as we were, but the rules don't apply to the expansion clubs?

Only if they change them!

Hasn't it always been that way? They've never said it, but it's pretty much a given that Crusader, Catalans and Harlequins will never be kicked out of Superleague.

If there is any shred of truth in this then I hope all the clubs under threat of loosing their franchise and Widnes use this damning evidence to ensure that we all are playing in SL in 2012 or legal action will follow.

Before anybody starts with we all signed up not to challenge the decisions, we also all signed up to a set of rules which the RFL keep bending to suit expansion clubs. Therefore in my mind they can't try and enforce
part of the original rules whilst blatantly ignoring certain others.