Strangley, I've never heard him (JD) speak with so much passion, about anything.

The Clan is right. Children get into rugby league through example, seeing their hero's, people talking about the game in their communities. We (RL) don't have the luxury of a brainwashing media that turns kids onto soccer before they've ever experienced a game. The Rugby League ARE on dangerous ground here.

Lol at the song they played at the end of the interview

* Steve Hackett *

[iStandard bearers match to the tick of the clock
It's a war against time when you're fronting the flock
Determined resolute defiant and strong
Noble and Savage know they belong
In the heart of the city

The battlefield of love a ruffled feathered bed
From fluid moist lips the benediction's said
You love them and leave them with yesterday's guilt
Everything's on schedule in the empire that you built
In the heart of the city

You close a deal Thursday at 7.45
The train home is empty you're the only man alive
You throw away your clothes in a house of clouds
The window is sealed the furniture in shrouds
In the heart of the city[/i

Im affriad Klav is right. I commented on here over a month ago that there would only be one ground as far as officialdom were concerned (the only thing they didnt say was which one).

This has been brewing for some time despite the best efforts of others.

Whats funny :-

The council are funding this trinity walk of fame. How many famous people are from Wakey.
My god most of them will be ex Wakey RL players. Yet the council may not let us have
a professional sporting team/ground in the city of Wakefield what a set of s !

All we can hope for is that this is just one last throw of the desperate dice by Mr Box, and if the feasibility study backs Newmarket, then he will throw his weight behind it. What worries me is the remit of any feasibility study, as the outcome can be determined by the question it is supposed to answer. If the remit is simply which can be built quickest, ignoring any funding issues, then Glasshoughton wins. If the remit is which one is most likely to be built first by taking into account funding, as well as job creation for the Wakefield district, then Newmarket wins.

The worry I have is that the outcome can be influenced simply by asking the study to answer a specific question. The issue will then be what the Community Trust then do, because if the study backs Glasshoughton and Yorkcourt and the Community Trust tell Box to stick it, then I assume neither get built.

If Mr Box gets his way, it will be thought of as a museum piece, a piece of Wakefield's past.

And there's no point in those people who say that it is all the club's fault, because I'm not sure any of the shiny new grounds were built by the clubs themselves. They were all built by the councils, with the clubs as mere tenants.

To add some balance to the negative response by many on here to JD's interview. I am a fan of 26 years, love the club to death, have shares in the club - not as an investment but as a way to help the club.

I am also wary of the current economic climate, the change in recent politics which has led to many cut backs on a national scale. I am also able to remember many years of knock backs on stadia, who remembers the Pugneys venture with Yorkshire CC?

If a ground share is what is required then I have no problem with that since I see it as a long term benefit for the club. Okay, so people out of their sentiment will not go. Of those that don't go I think a number will come round to the idea over time. We will not lose all the fans who threaten to leave. Further, a more appealing venue for facilities and comfort will bring in new support and more travelling fans = more revenue for the club = increased chance of developing a more successful team = more fans and so on.

Our current stadia is dated and poor.

I agree that sometimes the RL in my view are misguided in the way they want to develop the game. Grassroots are the heart and soul of the game and should not be lost. How the RL can justify Salford, Quins or Crusaders greater franchise worthiness with such low crowds and uncompetitive performance is beyond me. Further Quins and Crusaders have less heritage in player development.

I've been to Australia many times and when you look at the teams who play such as at the Olympic stadium (Bulldogs, Rabbitohs), St George-Illawara etc you see that many dedicated fans are prepared to travel a not too far a distance to see their team. I for one travelled over 50 miles yesterday (one way) to get to Cas (since I live in East Yorkshire). I am prepared to travel where ever I can manage to see my team. I support Wakefield Trinity where ever and when ever.

I support JD's comments. In the current climate it is the most viable and practical option. The RL have set some tough criteria, which although I disagree with, meeting the criteria will (in my view) help the club grow.

Not sure I agree there.

He doesn't say he doesn't support Newmarket, just that 2 grounds is too much.
And I'd agree with the fans love bit too. I want Newmarket to succeed but I'll be watching Wakefield while ever there is a Wakefield.

Unfortunately I think Box will take a leaf out of Brian Clough's book, ie.



I fear the findings of the feasability study are already known and it has'nt even been done yet.

Why all the animosity towards Box , when its been Rod Walker who has been chasing a groundshare since Newmarket was announced, admittedly he only wanted to be at GH till yours was ready (if you can believe him)

I dont recall him leaving Wakey in a strong financial position last time he was involved with you , but he didnt do too bad for himself ...................... just be a bit wary of the worm

Good, well reasoned post. It's unpalatable but we have to adapt or we're doomed.

What a rediculous statement to make. You obviously know nothing about the guy or Wakefield at the time.

It's unpalatable but something we're going to have to get used to in the short-term at least. There may be a case two years, five years, ten years down the line when both clubs do not have to share and have a stadium each.

But for me, I want both Castleford AND Wakefield to prosper and show some of these cocky fans from Saints, Leeds, Wigan and Warrington that our clubs are sleeping giants and that you don't need to have a big money owner to succeed. Having a brand spanking new stadium will develop areas of the club that were financially weak, such as commercially.

I want to see a SL team in a SL stadium. Pettyness towards neighbours or location is not what's needed; it's solidarity between both clubs - we shouldn't be fighting, we should be uniting against those above us.

Whilst agreeing with your sentiment, you wouldn’t be saying the same if it meant Cas playing at Newmarket.

Actually, I would.

As I've said on a few threads the last few days, I might be in a petty mood now stating that I would never go but in all reality, Cas are in my blood and I'd watch them anywhere and everywhere if I could.

Enlighten us as what the worm has ever done to benefit your club...................... not to line his own pocket

Spot on; the feasibility study will say whatever Box wants it to say - in this case, to rubber stamp the fait accomplis of both clubs at GH.

Peter Box will only do what benefits himself, he has no concern over what happens to Wakefield Trinity.

As for JD I was told yesterday what he had said and didn't believe it until I had heard it myself. It is very easy for him to say such things, he can walk away at the end of the season and doesn't have to live with the decisions made.

I appreciate a lot of what you say there but for me it's about having a home you can identify with and feel at home.

I personally would never, ever get that feeling following Wakefield at Glasshoughton. Also going there would end any possibility of ever building our own stadium in Wakefield I would imagine.

I don't think I would have a problem following at Barnsley if I knew that while I was following there our own stadium was being built in Wakefield.

I've followed Wakey for over 20 years, maybe not as much as I would have liked home and away in recent years due to other commitments, but I did the hard times going to the likes of Whitehaven, Carlisle, Workington etc... and hardly missed a game for years and years, seeing plenty of bad times along the way. I always thoroughly enjoyed it though even if we did have some truly awful times. My hunger and passion was always there for my home town club though and that's the important bit....'home town club'

I now live out of Wakefield in Dewsbury but have no trouble at all travelling to 'home' games. Take that away from Wakefield permanently though and I'm sorry but that would be me done. I would probably walk the ten minutes up the road from home and watch Dewsbury.

I find it disrespectful of Jason to question fans love of the game for not wanting to travel out of Wakefield to watch [uOUR[/u 'home' team.

I know plenty of people who have followed Wakefield for as long and longer than me and with more passion who feel the same way. You only have to look at the poll I started on Glasshoughton and take notice of some of the posters who have voted 'no' to realise the strength of opposition to something that our club captain questions the fans over...

That's not how I read it. When the feasibility study returns the results that Box and Dicky Wright want to hear, Box will simply re-designate the land asset initially given to Wakey in favour of Cas. I don't think there's anything to stop him, at least, not going by the tone of the statement he made himself on the subject.

Why is it that all other local councils can build stadiums whether it be football or Rugby but WMDC have never come close,especially considering they have 3 RL teams in its area.Then again looking at how WMDC seems to neglect sports,swimming and general fitness for the local community it's no surprise.

Sky tv dictate how the structure of the grounds should be & to what degree. It seems that they want dual sporting facilities at all superleague venues. ie Leeds carnegie, jjb, galpharm, quins etc. So I do not think that they would have contemplated 2 stadiums in the same area even if they both could have been done on a budget.

the attacks on Sir Rod are a little odd!!...

almost seems to be something personal there...

if you re-arrange the letters of [iamber not yeller[/i and speak them with a castleford accent it almost sounds like p...e...t..e...r... b...o...????

or some one very closely associated with the chap!


Is there a history between Box and Walker? anyone know???

Anyway... I am getting totally P1ss3d off with this whole thing...

why dont we just pack up the franchise and re-locate to Barcelona... Barcelona Trinity Wildcats... and the weather for home games would be great!!

If Wakefield wont support the club... then take it away like the crusaders did, at least it would be a quick death!!