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| Quote ="Uptoncat"If the above options were available in true Wakey style we'd go for the cheap opton of one of the March twins'"
Hasn't Millward got a clause in the contract that lets him go if a SL club want him? Would take him or Cullen, possibly Powell at a push.
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| A&E at pinderfields must be chockablock this morning with all the kneecaps that have jerked out of position. some folk want to get a grip . if there is a changing off the guard then kear upstairs and beans to have a crack with JD as assistant.
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"A&E at pinderfields must be chockablock this morning with all the kneecaps that have jerked out of position. some folk want to get a grip . if there is a changing off the guard then kear upstairs and beans to have a crack with JD as assistant.'"
Some knee jerk reactions maybe.
personally, i documented my opinion some weeks ago.Its just taken others a few weeks to see it.
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"A&E at pinderfields must be chockablock this morning with all the kneecaps that have jerked out of position. some folk want to get a grip . if there is a changing off the guard then kear upstairs and beans to have a crack with JD as assistant.'"
Unfortunately we don't have the luxury of letting a new coach cut his teeth, we need somebody with a proven track record, Millward the man with several grand finals under his belt (and more importantly likely to be available) has got to be considered as a solution to our ongoing problem.
And for your reference, seen as you apparently struggle with the meaning:
=#0000FFknee-jerk (nē'jûrk')
[iadj. Slang[/i
Easily predictable; automatic: "quick, easy laughs and knee-jerk responses" (New York).
Reacting spontaneously in the expected manner: a knee-jerk cynic.
We've been pathetic since before Easter, and more and more people are getting sick of it and (most) discussing it in a reasonable and constructive manner after. 6 matches or so with let down after let down on and off the field, it can hardly be considered "Knee-jerk"
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Obst has heart but is not good enough for a quota spot. '"
He's a trier and always has been, and that's a free pass with a large section of the crowd.
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"A&E at pinderfields must be chockablock this morning with all the kneecaps that have jerked out of position. some folk want to get a grip . if there is a changing off the guard then kear upstairs and beans to have a crack with JD as assistant.'"
knee jerk-six defeats,woeful performences,crazy team selections,lack of ideas,no win a round the corner,and he as lost the dressing room
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| So we sack kear? Who we going to get?? We've been through a spell like this before and come out of it!
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| Quote ="wakeyjosh"So we sack kear? Who we going to get?? We've been through a spell like this before and come out of it!'"
millward
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or even an assistent coach from down under they seem to come over and do jobs for over sl teams
you say we come through this before maybe true last year we looked liked we had lost the plot at one point but got back to winning ways,but i fear this could be like two years ago when we lost 11 out of last 12,we cant keep him cos he kept us up 5 years ago a change is needed
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"A&E at pinderfields must be chockablock this morning with all the kneecaps that have jerked out of position. some folk want to get a grip . if there is a changing off the guard then kear upstairs and beans to have a crack with JD as assistant.'"
I know you mods try to keep things positive and you generally do a sterling job of it, but its the nature of the performances that is the concern not the losses.
I feel you need fresh ideas, not more of the same. The last thing you need to become is a jobs for the boys club (although it is certainly an issue at the moment in my opinion at the club).
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| Said it before, Kear has earned the time to sort this out and not just because of six games four years ago. The club are on a different level to what they were before he arrived. We've had three years of steady progression. So this season may end up being a write off. So what. Thats how sport goes sometimes.
The team are well and truely out of form and it's down to Kear to sort it out. You only have to look at last year so see that he can do this. Look at Quins. A few weeks ago they were awful yet they get a few troops back, win a game and appear to be a completely different team.
There were opportunities last night a team with a win or two behind them would've taken and ultimately won the match. However, this team is low on confidence therefore they rush the chances they get making a mess of them. A coach can't make allowances for knock on's, messing up the play of the ball and crazy passes.
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| I've said this on more than one occasion and been slagged off for my troubles but "John Kear is a brilliant technical coach, what he is not and never will be is a head coach".
He may be able to inspire a team for a select few games, he appears unable to manage a side consistently throughout a season. When he was No. 2 to Bomber at Hull, we played some of our best rugby, entertaining while still being able to defend well. I even went so far as to tell Bomber that Kear was his best ever signing.
People will point to our 2005 Wembley success but that was simply two great matches. After that we went backwards (and seem to have been going backwards ever since). John needs to have an honest word with himself and accept the fact that Assistant Coach is probably his best position. I never really bought into the "Kear factor" theory but after seeing it unfold in front of my eyes, I'm now a convert.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"I've said this on more than one occasion and been slagged off for my troubles but "John Kear is a brilliant technical coach, .'"
Saying it does not make it so! He has been in his time but i just get the impression his methods have become dated. His ability to motivate is well documented, but only so many times can the same tricks work and it looks at the moment like he has played all his aces over the last 4 years.
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| Quote ="Come On The Trin"A few coaches I can think of that could be interested in the Wakey job:-
Millward NO
Powell NOOOOO
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Outside bet - March brothers...'" NO WAY
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| Quote ="jonh"I know you mods try to keep things positive and you generally do a sterling job of it, but its the nature of the performances that is the concern not the losses.
I feel you need fresh ideas, not more of the same. The last thing you need to become is a jobs for the boys club (although it is certainly an issue at the moment in my opinion at the club).'"
what we need is money to buy 2 centres and 2 halfbacks and a hooker i can wish
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| the main concern is that its boring, the ammount of ball we had we should of won.we dont throw the ball about and try andcreate anything,we did 1st half v leeds,but we look like robots who dont play whats in front of them
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Said it before, Kear has earned the time to sort this out and not just because of six games four years ago. The club are on a different level to what they were before he arrived. We've had three years of steady progression. So this season may end up being a write off. So what. Thats how sport goes sometimes.
The team are well and truely out of form and it's down to Kear to sort it out. You only have to look at last year so see that he can do this. Look at Quins. A few weeks ago they were awful yet they get a few troops back, win a game and appear to be a completely different team.
There were opportunities last night a team with a win or two behind them would've taken and ultimately won the match. However, this team is low on confidence therefore they rush the chances they get making a mess of them. A coach can't make allowances for knock on's, messing up the play of the ball and crazy passes.'"
He cant,you are correct.
But he is responsible for our lack of creativity,lack of attacking moves,lack of set plays and dire team selection.
Kear is/was a one trick pony,having the ability to motivate an average group of players into producing above average performances.Unfortunately it appears he no longer has that ability and has nothing else to fall back on.
Are we really on such a different level to where we four years ago?Stadium apart,we are constantly in financial dire straits and continue to sell players to survive.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"NO WAY
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Why not Millward?
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"the main concern is that its boring, the ammount of ball we had we should of won.we dont throw the ball about and try andcreate anything,we did 1st half v leeds,but we look like robots who dont play whats in front of them'"
That is a concern and its one thing Brough in particular was very good at. He could read the game very well and could capitalise on a defence out of position. Obst did to a certain extent with his scoots from dummy half in the 1st 40 last night but as the whole teams performance dropped in the 2nd so did his.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Why now Millward?'"
because he keeps tipping a Wakefield loss in his column hence he is the spawn of the devil.....that seems to be the general line against him.
I can understand it, i mean why would you want a coach who has had success at every club he has been to (Wigan aside, but in hindsight that was never going to work) has recent NRL experience and training/coaching methods and a hat full of contacts in Australia with influence over the transfer market.
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| Kear in. No one better to do the job with the players he has at the moment.
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| Quote ="jonh"because he keeps tipping a Wakefield loss in his column hence he is the spawn of the devil.....that seems to be the general line against him.
I can understand it, i mean why would you want a coach who has had success at every club he has been to (Wigan aside, but in hindsight that was never going to work) has recent NRL experience and training/coaching methods and a hat full of contacts in Australia with influence over the transfer market.'"
as a coach I like him, but I really do feel he has a dislike to us not because of his tipping but by comments he's made regarding us. Whether he'd come
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| Quote ="jonh"because he keeps tipping a Wakefield loss in his column hence he is the spawn of the devil.....that seems to be the general line against him.
I can understand it, i mean why would you want a coach who has had success at every club he has been to (Wigan aside, but in hindsight that was never going to work) has recent NRL experience and training/coaching methods and a hat full of contacts in Australia with influence over the transfer market.'"
Yup, basically how I see it. Kear seems to be imune (to many on here) for the good work he has done in the past - and whilst we need to take this into account when planning there has to come a time when we move on. This "slump" is a regular occurance, and I can genuinely see us fininising closer to last place than 8th as things stand at the moment.
Proven coach with winning mentalitly, heaps of experience, encourages his sides to play entertaining stuff, apparently readily available, currently flying with his side after making huge strides recently + the other reasons you mention...... Yup, promoting Paul Broadbent with JD as assistant is a much more sensible suggestion.
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| picks his mates on a weekly basis who dont perform but a blind eye is turned.
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| Quote ="wakeyjosh"So we sack kear? Who we going to get?? We've been through a spell like this before and come out of it!'"
we go for MILLWARD kear can stay upstairs l was coached by beans and lets just say l dont want him coaching my team who l've supported since l was 7 years old, old timer old ideas....!!!! where all forward work we dont use or backs like we should and what do we do sign another forward no sense.. we need another morrison second rower a scrum half and 2 backs we've got too many forwards... korki and king to start with fergi and moore coming on
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| we have hit a bit of a slump, will come out of it. to be honest i would be more worried if we were getting beat 60 -0 etc, like some of the so called top teams. we are not that far off the mark. some on here seem to think we are saints and should throw the ball about as such but are the first to whine when the ball hits the floor. the only answer they ever seem to have is sack the coach. that will solve every problem from no light bulbs in the toilet to the bar staff turning up late. i am sure when we pick up a couple of wins they will stop wetting themselves and go back to bagging the players.
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