OMG, opinions




Looks like we have our scapegoat.

ALL our players give 100% - there have been times in the past when this wasn't so and supporters then had a right to be angry, but not now. Consider how far these youngsters have come in the last year or two. If they can maintain that rate of progress they will be fine. in the mean time we, as supporters, owe them our full support and thanks for stepping up to the mark when duty called, and I for one think they have done us proud!

So, Bibb, Pitts, Murphy, Blake and all our youngsters...

Got everything going for him to make ya think he'd become a decent player....but he's not gonna be good enough.
Ar kid made a good comparison ..reckon's he's gonna be another Chris Feather..got all the attributes but got no heart..!!

Thats correct, for years we've asked for hard work and honesty in our players, not for world beaters but for honest grafters who play with pride in our shirt.

Where as you and your kid were GB internationals - when people start spouting nonesense about a young player like that all credibility is lost IMHO.

Can't agree with you there. He has plenty of heart and did alot of carries yesterday to help out a tired side. Our forwards have looked the business since Broadbent came in

I rate Bibb. Think he has been very good for us this season. Those people saying he looks lazy need to remember he is a big lads and guys of his size do not throw themselves about like diminutive half backs. He did look a little pedestrian yesterday I agree.

To those "bigging" up big Frank. From what I saw from his run out in the reserves he is no world beater at this moment in time so don't get too exited.

FWIW on Murphy not defusing a bomb (shock horror while under pressure) are you suggesting he should be dropped for Petterson. Please cast your mind back to the first 18 minutes at the Keepmoat. I like Murphy and think he is doing a fantastic job.

Please remember folks we are not Saints we are Wakefield. Just cast your minds back a few years. We are unrecognisable as a team from the. But please don't start calling for heads when the wheels drop off as we have no god given right to catch every 50 50 ball and win every match.

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Absolutely spot on and an excellent post Jason.

be surprised if murphy is the one kear inferred to about the mistake, he was isolated and had 2 including menzies bearing down on him and he's a big bugger. if owt i wondered where atkins was to give him some protection. not murphy's fault imo

You could possibly criticise Murphy for not communicating and informing Atkins of the obvious danger out wide. But Murphy was left isloated as you say a couple of times and did the best he could.

By the starting post I only meant are we maybe over using him? Putting him in the deep end too long? I have no problems with his play and think he will make a great player, but not yet.

As previously stated we are Wakefield Trinity, we do a job with what we have got, and FWIW we are doing a bloody good job. Young Lads like Kyle Bibb are relative virgins to the SL competition, it is only this season he has become a consistant player (in terms of apperances) so I think it is fair to say it takes some adjustment. Perhaps some fans need to reserve their judgement until at least half way through the season or perhaps next. Its all well and good having opinions but some people are obviously getting ahead of themselves in the light of our current 'success'.

Let's be fair, forwards don't hit their best form, usually, until later in their career and players like Graham and Burgess are freakish and rare! Bibb's doing a good job and he doesn't often let us down. At his stage in development he's bound to make mistakes at SL level but I don't think he or anyone would have expected to play so many games this season, and with the short turnaround from friday to stand up, pull that shirt on and play again is highly commendable. A couple of sloppy errors don't take away from what is, in my mind, the foundations of a good career in our sport and those mistakes will be cut out with experience and patience. They could have been costly yesterday, but they weren't. We got the two points.

As for Murphy, I think he gets through so much work for a player of his size and experience, and even the very best wingers don't always manage to diffuse the bomb under pressure. The tackles and yards that Murphy makes more than justify his place in the squad at the moment.

Has got the craziest running style I've ever seen, good player all the same!

Crazier than Hendo?

Hendo reminds me more and more of Jacko as the weeks go on. All he needs now is a broom and some reactalite glasses to complete the look.

Yes, Hendo is just plain crazy Murphy runs like he is bandy legged but it works for him.

OT slightly, heard a story the other week (reliable source). Whilst talking to Sam after the Catalan match (I think) a friend of mind said that he thought Hendo took a massive battering, Sam replied without a hint of a smile "that's what he is there for" - made me laugh.

For the two trys that Menzies scored Murphy was left exposed out on our left, the first one was a case of two players jumping for the ball and it was pot luck who came down with it although Murphy was at a disadvantage being further from the ball, but having been criminally exposed for the first one we should have learned a bit quicker and made sure it didn't happen again so i wouldn't call Murphy for those, there are plenty of times so far this season that he has been left in that position and stunted the opposition attack.

As for Bibb making a mistake that might have cost us the game, had we shown more composure and a bit more guile in any of the numerous sets that we had on their line in the last twenty minutes we would have been out of site by the time the hooter went, as it was I think we only completed one of those sets.

Seemed like there was a bit of fatigue setting in at the back end which was understandable, a win is a win considering we've played two games in four days and there are times in the past when we would have been having orgasms over a win against Bradford but some of our lot aren't happy now unless we're doing it like St Helens every week

Thats exactly how i saw it we Don't need to Slate our young players for trying the hearts out

Whilst in no way suggesting that Murphy is dropped for Petersen I do think that Petersen is another one of those players who is given a bit of a hard time by our fans. He injured his shoulder in the first couple of minutes in that game and that certainly contributed to his lack of competitiveness in going for those bombs.
I think given a good run of games to prove himself Petersen would be a great asset to us, although he may have to wait quite a while to get his chance.

I think that Pitts and Murphy are putting in the level of performance required to compete for a starting place in the team regardless of injury/suspension. I think bibb needs to show much more and to be honest I dont think it will help his progression if everyone focuses on his age rather than the fact that he is a full time professional at a super league club. He is not giving Kear any headache regarding team selection when others are fit Bibb will be dropped. If he does not take his chance now then the next time somewhere down the line (maybe in a years time) will be make or break for his career. And whoever said that wilkes took his time hitting form when he came to the club - you have got to be kidding me. Wilkes is dynamic Bibb is plodding.

Let's be fair, to all the lads (even hendo!!!) we have had a magnificent start to the season, better than a lot of us "experts" predicted!! We've played some good stuff and overall they've given us a lot to be proud of, in what have been very difficult times.
The likes of Bibb pitts murphy etc are the long term future of our club and need support, they will make mistakes all through there careers, so let's get behind them now, enough young players have left this club and gone on to bigger and better things, some for the money and dome because they were disalusioned for one reason or another!! We as supporters play our part in that.
Experienced players make mistakes so give the young boys a break!!

Not wanting to be harsh or personal but it is a simple synopsis.
Professional sportsmen take the money - take the glory - take the critiscism and make the most of all of it.

Petersen is going to be a huge success in my opinion. What I saw I liked - he wants the ball and will come in and take the pressure off the forwards by making numerous good carries just lkike Blanch.