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| can't see DB being dropped. Leo Latu is more likely to miss out or possibly Martin if he isn't 100%.
if we weren't so short in the front row then Bibb or maybe Pitts would be taking a break
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| Brough will defo play against his old club. He'll be well up for it and JK will know that. Plus DB played well against Leigh and JK will be keen to give him more game time to get match fit.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Gleeson moved to the wing and Martin into his favoured position.
He may chose to rest Sam if reports he's still not 100% are believed?
Should be a hell of a game, just hope we turn up as if not we'll get well beat by a very good Cas side.
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| I dont think he will drop DB either, just saying what i would go with. Do know that Grix will deffo not start at 6 though
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"One word....becomes with 'S''"
Does that make make sense in your world??
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| Quote ="Riggins"
Does that make make sense in your world??'"
My world is pretty realistic.....the word I was refering to is Strong.
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| Can't drop Latu Need him for his impact coming from the bench, he can really change a game.
50/50 on Grix not been too good but he has just come back from an injury, sure JK will pick right team though
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| yeah but we can't drop Sam either
so would you have BD, TLL, SO, DB, SG & TM all playing halfback roles?
too many cooks and all that
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| Quote ="pocket 4's"yeah but we can't drop Sam either
so would you have BD, TLL, SO, DB, SG & TM all playing halfback roles?
too many cooks and all that'"
Drop Grix IMO not been up to much.
Depends on who is fit, Need Latu out there though IMO he is a real threat coming off the bench.
Tough decision but it's about time that has happend
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| Quote ="adam9641"Drop Grix IMO not been up to much.
Depends on who is fit, Need Latu out there though IMO he is a real threat coming off the bench.
Tough decision but it's about time that has happend'"
It depends whether he is used as a battering ram though just running the ball up with no support. His tackling for me needs to improve as well, but i'm putting that down to a lack of match fitness thus far
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| i would play martin at so and grix on the wing
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| I don't think Kear likes to 'drop' players, except in exceptional circumstances, after last year's drop in form from too many player changes.
Unless there are any players who are carrying knocks and are not 100% I would be very surprised if JK didn't continue with the same team as played Leigh.
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| Quote ="Come On The Trin"Brough will defo play against his old club. He'll be well up for it and JK will know that. Plus DB played well against Leigh and JK will be keen to give him more game time to get match fit.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Gleeson moved to the wing and Martin into his favoured Centre position.
He may chose to rest Sam if reports he's still not 100% are believed?
Should be a hell of a game, just hope we turn up as if not we'll get well beat by a very good Cas side.'"
Sorry to disagree again but -
The fact that it is Cas and he may be up for it makes him a liability. Brough does not play well when he let's his emotions take control. Cas and there fans know just how to wind him up.
Brough didn't play well against Saints or Leigh IMHO, he made Grix look a fool and Grix didn't need any help against Saints.
Centre is not Martins favoured position anymore, he is the best half back at the club and he knows it.
Sam is fit as far as I know.
Cas are not a VERY good side, Saints and Leeds are.
Brough is a fine player and very gifted but he lacks the cool head required to beat Cas at their place, the team is far better balanced with Drew and Martin pulling the strings.
It will be brave of JK to drop Brough but it wouldn't surprise me. FWIW that's how I see it.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Can't drop Latu
Need him for his impact coming from the bench, he can really change a game.
50/50 on Grix not been too good but he has just come back from an injury, sure JK will pick right team though'"
Has Latu done anything this year, I have seen nothing from him so far. In fact if I were to keep Brough I'd drop the non performing Latu and play Brough at 9 interchanging with Drew.
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| Quote ="IngsRoader"I don't think Kear likes to 'drop' players, except in exceptional circumstances, after last year's drop in form from too many player changes.
Unless there are any players who are carrying knocks and are not 100% I would be very surprised if JK didn't continue with the same team as played Leigh.'"
TBF if he wouldn't be dropping Brough in terms of form as both Drew and Martin were exceptional before their short injury spell, Brough IMHO hasn't been.
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| Quote ="vastman"Sorry to disagree again but -
The fact that it is Cas and he may be up for it makes him a liability. Brough does not play well when he let's his emotions take control. Cas and there fans know just how to wind him up.
Brough didn't play well against Saints or Leigh IMHO, he made Grix look a fool and Grix didn't need any help against Saints.
Centre is not Martins favoured position anymore, he is the best half back at the club and he knows it.
Sam is fit as far as I know.
Cas are not a VERY good side, Saints and Leeds are.
Brough is a fine player and very gifted but he lacks the cool head required to beat Cas at their place, the team is far better balanced with Drew and Martin pulling the strings.
It will be brave of JK to drop Brough but it wouldn't surprise me. FWIW that's how I see it.'"
Brough and Rooney were our most effective half back pairing last season. Drew and Martin have been the most effective pairing this season so far. There's only room for one dictator.
Don't see where you get the bit about Brough not having the cool head to beat Cas, though. He took them apart in Wales last year.
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| Quote ="vastman"Sorry to disagree again but -
The fact that it is Cas and he may be up for it makes him a liability. Brough does not play well when he let's his emotions take control. Cas and there fans know just how to wind him up.
Brough didn't play well against Saints or Leigh IMHO, he made Grix look a fool and Grix didn't need any help against Saints.
Centre is not Martins favoured position anymore, he is the best half back at the club and he knows it.
Sam is fit as far as I know.
Cas are not a VERY good side, Saints and Leeds are.
Brough is a fine player and very gifted but he lacks the cool head required to beat Cas at their place, the team is far better balanced with Drew and Martin pulling the strings.
It will be brave of JK to drop Brough but it wouldn't surprise me. FWIW that's how I see it.'"
How come you say that we are not a very good side then ?
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| Quote ="vastman"Has Latu done anything this year, I have seen nothing from him so far. In fact if I were to keep Brough I'd drop the non performing Latu and play Brough at 9 interchanging with Drew.'"
For me it is quite clear that the club has 'bulked' Latu up considerably (so he can slot into the 13 role)........he carrying much more muscle that last year, and as a result he has lost some of his zip!
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"How come you say that we are not a very good side then ?'"
Playing some good rugby. But would not say very good, would say decent start to season. Let's face it you have been lucky
Very good sides are like what Vasty says Leeds and Saints IMO. Very good is a strong term to use for Cas and even for Wakey!
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"How come you say that we are not a very good side then ?'"
I'm sure he simply meant that you're not in the same class as Leeds or Saints, not that you haven't got a good side, as you clearly have. Just not a VERY good side.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Brough and Rooney were our most effective half back pairing last season. Drew and Martin have been the most effective pairing this season so far. There's only room for one dictator.
Don't see where you get the bit about Brough not having the cool head to beat Cas, though. He took them apart in Wales last year.'"
Agreed he was brilliant, if he does play let's hope he can play like that again.
Tell you what it is great to have a hard time selecting the team.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"Still no big Frank though.
Really want to see him run out, but i guess he will get his chance soon, when JK thinks the time is right.
Glad to have you back BD & TM!'"
Lets just hope that Brad and Danny have learnt to play together since last season,as when they have played seperatly they have been great so far but last season when playing together they seemed to play against each other.
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| I agree with Vastman about Brough. He is a very hotheaded player and lets his emotions rule his head. When he first came to Wakefield he was focused on playing Rugby and got on with the game.
Against Leigh for instance he was more concerned with trying to get a cheap shot or a big hit on one of their players who had roughed him up the wrong way.
He needs to focus on his rugby and do the basics well and let everything else take care of itself
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Brough and Rooney were our most effective half back pairing last season. Drew and Martin have been the most effective pairing this season so far. There's only room for one dictator.
Don't see where you get the bit about Brough not having the cool head to beat Cas, though. He took them apart in Wales last year.'"
Yes he did but Cas were beaten by the team TBF. Don't know if you saw the last Cas game at BV (you being an ex-pat) but Brough got totally wound up and was substituted towards the end. He let them get to him and it was really obvious.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yes he did but Cas were beaten by the team TBF. Don't know if you saw the last Cas game at BV (you being an ex-pat) but Brough got totally wound up and was substituted towards the end. He let them get to him and it was really obvious.'"
No I didn't, so I'll take your word for it. Whatever the arguments about Brough, though, it's really about which combination works best, and I think we agree that Drew and Martin have shown so far that they are first in the pecking order for the time being.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"No I didn't, so I'll take your word for it. Whatever the arguments about Brough, though, it's really about which combination works best, and I think we agree that Drew and Martin have shown so far that they are first in the pecking order for the time being.'"
Correct, it's not about Brough TBF, he is a good player, it's that for me Martin and Drew just do more for us on this seasons form.
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