went to the normy game yesterday and some of the players from west bowling took some right stick. the scrum half caught it from the kick off and two fingered the crowd, next play dropped it he got some right stick.its not nice but its amateur level, it happens every week and its laughed off. lowes is a well paid pro and things are going bad for him at the moment, he could be one of them blokes who do things and think later what have i done.he shouldnt have done it but its pressure and maybe hes not ready to be a number 1 just yet he might come through this a good coach in a few year

Why not treat people like you expect to be treated, thats the problem with society too many cowards

Wrong, the RESPECT code of conduct is for everyone spectators included. If fans can't handle a couple of pints then don't drink. Chanting abuse at people will gage reaction and i think it's good that Lowes shows passion just a pity some of his players didn't show the same.

Where would Wakefield be now if we'd employed Lowes instead of JK? Looks like he's really not ready to be a pro coach, for several reasons.

Lets make that decision at the business end of the season

No, lets not If we had lowes



a) wouldnt have stayed up wouldnt have been in SL
b) If by some miracle, we did stay up we wouldnt have got so close to wembley

No, we would have been in a far worse state if we had lowes.

Fair comment - I just think we'd have crashed out of Super League in 2006 had Lowes become coach. Might've been a more suitable environment for him to learn the trade in the lower leagues though...

You are talking brown stuff, if you think that Lowes could have done what Kear did then your opinion is worth as much as NGB4cas's.

Null & Void

You seem to be arguing my point for me. Thank you.

2006
Beat Cas twice, beat Catalans at Home and the Bulls away. Not that much of an acheivement really. The team we had then was good and under acheived and i am not having a go here.

2007
Disappointing as Wembley should have been acheived given the draw and a top 6 finish was quashed with a poor run of games.

2008 as been a big surprise to everyone as 4 weeks ago some people were calling for Kear to be sacked and the club were terrible etc. Lets not get ahead of ourselves and like Blaymire said one game at a time. We are doing well but so are a few other teams Leeds, Cas, Hull, Hull KR and Giants

Like i said you are talking the brown stuff, yes the team did under achieve, but do you not think that that run in was not something special? You do not have a clu and like i said your opinion is worthless. You will find it very hard i feel to get anyone agree that the end of the 2006 season was nothing short of a miracle.

Your post loses some validity through having missed an entire year!!



2006 - OK

2007 - your description is of 2008.

2008 - ???? Look at a calender man!



Also, bear in mind the changes in club personnel - especially the amount of GB players.

Big time improvement - at every level of the club!

I think you are grossly undersetimating the task at hand when JK took charge in 06.

To take an admittedly tallented squad who had been poorly coached for 12 months, who had been written off as certainties for relegation, had little or zero confidence, were in the habit of losing amongst many other poor habits . . . . .

To turn all of that around in the time he did was a magnificent achievement

from that point forward he has improved us no end from top to bottom.

I've got more respect for Jimmy Lowes than i have fans who taunt a man who is clearly struggling to hold onto his job.....i think you've got to be pretty sad to do that and think it's funny.......Personally i can't understand why that would be preferable to cheering on a great performance by the lads.....

Anyways Wire have only just started the season - give him a break....Hull fans wanted rid of Kear because he had an indifferent start to the season a couple of years ago...20+ rounds to go????

What about the complete overhaul of the academy and coaching team? John Kear has brought alot more to Wakefield than a couple of wins here and there.

Agreed but Lowes really needs to be above that and he wasn't which show real flaws in his character.

Couldn't be at last Friday's match against the Wires but I remember last season's encounter where Lowes got some ribbing (at the start it was more about his boss Cullen), then Lowes started to bite and it escalated into abuse and threats - from both sides.

It was of course predictable that he would be goaded again after his reaction last year, but it is a poor reflection on Lowes that he should react in such an undignified way a second time.

i have no real problem with fans giving opposition players, managers, coaches etc some stick at the game as long as it's both within reason and the fans then are able to take it back in return. ateotd if it gets under their skin then that can be advantageous to our chances, if lowes is behaving like that then he is not thinking as clearly as he might otherwise be. of course you have to accept that at times giving em stick can only motivate them further so its not a no risk strategy anyway.

we were stood near to the "big cat" where the players come out of at the end of the game and lowes re-acted to the comments "we're e, why don't you f-off you yorkshire sheep- sha**ing b*star*!" the last bit was what he took offence to. if the stewards had of been doing there job correctly, the clown would have been removed..i was impressed, the pi55head soon shut up and probably pi55ed himself

The fan said that? What's the point of the spiel about 'Respect' that's read out over the tannoy if someone can stand and shout vile abuse like that?

It got to him and the fact he reacted made it better, means what we were doing got to him and put him off.

I liked it when he chatted back but he soon went into hiding

Did you see nigel wright at half time in the dressing room on sky,he didnt have a clue.

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