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| I'm by no means Richard Wrights friend or even an empathizer, but why should he?
He confirm's Castleford's intentions every 3 weeks with a "big progress" statement. We all know what they want, they wouldn't have got outline planning permission for something they "might be doing". Not to say if anything happened or even delayed they might use Stanley for a few years, but i think it's safe to say Cas know where they want to be, they have told us enough times, why should Wright'y waste his time.... I think there are other things he should be spending time doing.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yes here,
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Many fans wouldnt travel to a stadium to share with the other club, attendances would fall.
The rfl with there drive towards expansion, arent going to issue two licences for one location, which ever club lost one would suffer a massive drop in attendances with no chance of getting back in sl (though more than likely the rfl would try to force us to merge AGAIN, which means either one clubs identity will lost, like with gateshead and sheffield and thousands of fans lost to the game for ever, or a completley new side being created, and i've never met a single wakey or cas fan that would be willing to support a merged team, so that team would die).
I dont drive, i walk to matches, if the stadium was outside of cas i wouldnt go to every match, probably i would miss most, i certainly wouldnt buy a season ticket, few would, in effect our home games would be away games. Whats more it would have a negative effect on the towns economy.
Instead of sharing and killing one of the clubs off, wakefield could build there ground in stanley and we can build ours in cas, both of which boost the local economy, and allow the clubs to keep there own identity. The wakey fans can tell you about all the benefits of there proposed stadium, at cas we will have a stadium that will be more accessible (train station outside the ground, just off the m62, buses to leeds, wakey, london and hull) and have more nearby entertainment (skiing, surfing, lazer tag, cinema, climbing walls, arcades, bowling, a hundred stores and shops, twenty or more pubs, bars and resturaunts) than any other rl stadium in the country.
Its easy to say you would be happy to share with saints when at the moment there is no chance of that happening., but in 40 years if the football club kick you out, i wonder if you would be so happy about moving in with saints, i suspect not.
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| Quote ="deeHell"Fair play to Fev they firmly confirmed their position and I wish them the best. The interesting thing now is will Dick Wright do the same thing. If Cas are 100% behind the Jnc 32 project I would expect a similar statement from them.'"
=#8000FFYou mean like he does EVERY TIME this is brought up? I remember at least 5 occassions where he's stated he isn't interested in moving into any stadium with Wakey, and he's also said he wouldn't let Wakefield play out of J32 either, because it's Castleford's stadium for the Castleford Tigers, and it will be getting built contrary to what you and some of the other goons like to say. Come on, bring up your usual counter argument for it
big wow the main plan didn't happen and got delayed for 3-4 month...that's nothing at all in a stadium build (Salford have been delayed what...3 years now?)
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| Quote ="deeHell"Fair play to Fev they firmly confirmed their position and I wish them the best. The interesting thing now is will Dick Wright do the same thing. If Cas are 100% behind the Jnc 32 project I would expect a similar statement from them.'"
Rodney Walker has already publically stated that cas have said they arent interested so why would he need to?
Fev made there statement as it was suggested that they may play games at stanley.
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| Remind us all how long j32 has been on the boil if you would be as so kind.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"Remind us all how long j32 has been on the boil if you would be as so kind.'"
=#8000FFThat depends, the original plan of a super casino with a 20,000 stadium paid for by the casino, which was killed by the government, or the current stadium which has been in plans for 2 years in which time there's been: feasibility study, ground study, ground works, a new road, outline design, outline planning permission?
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I don't think a ground share at Stanley would kill off Cas if their supporters still backed them and were loyal enough to watch them there. After all they go to other grounds to watch them every other week so why not 3 mile up the road in Stanley. [uIn fact I bet quite a few [/uwould find it easier and quicker to get to Stanley than it is to get darn't lane.
I know Glasshoughton is by far the best option but Stanley as a short term move or worse still a permenant move would not be the end of the world.'"
Cant imagine many would find it easier, most cas fans walk to the game, only those living out of town might find it easier and even then only if they were on that side of cas.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFYou mean like he does EVERY TIME this is brought up? I remember at least 5 occassions where he's stated he isn't interested in moving into any stadium with Wakey, and he's also said he wouldn't let Wakefield play out of J32 either, because it's Castleford's stadium for the Castleford Tigers, and it will be getting built contrary to what you and some of the other goons like to say. Come on, bring up your usual counter argument for it
big wow the main plan didn't happen and got delayed for 3-4 month...that's nothing at all in a stadium build (Salford have been delayed what...3 years now?)'"
I'm not having a go here so don't be so defensive! I personally don't recalling him rejecting the idea, if he has then fair enough. I know it's been publicly stated that Cas and Fev are welcome to play at Stanley. I also believe that the Jun 32 project has been delayed for longer than 3 months. After you received outline planning permission Dick publicly said that completion date would be October 2008 so something has obviously delayed the job.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"I'm by no means Richard Wrights friend or even an empathizer, but why should he?
He confirm's Castleford's intentions every 3 weeks with a "big progress" statement. We all know what they want, they wouldn't have got outline planning permission for something they "might be doing". [size=150Not to say if anything happened or even delayed they might use Stanley for a few years[/size, but i think it's safe to say Cas know where they want to be, they have told us enough times, why should Wright'y waste his time.... I think there are other things he should be spending time doing.'"
They are the lines I was thinking off, is Dick confident enough of the Juc 32 project been done in new time frame to come out with such a statement?
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| Quote ="pyeman"Cant imagine many would find it easier, most cas fans walk to the game, only those living out of town might find it easier and even then only if they were on that side of cas.'"
Well its easy with three legs is it not
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"Remind us all how long j32 has been on the boil if you would be as so kind.'"
I think you are getting close to trolling on your own board now. I have seen countless pointless posts on the Cas forum - please do not bring this to this forum and let's concentrate on the Wakefield stadium and not what anyone else is doing, or not, as the case may be!
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.....The wakey fans can tell you about all the benefits of there proposed stadium, at cas we will have a stadium that will be more accessible (train station outside the ground, just off the m62, buses to leeds, wakey, london and hull) and have more nearby entertainment (skiing, surfing, lazer tag, cinema, climbing walls, arcades, bowling, a hundred stores and shops, twenty or more pubs, bars and resturaunts) than any other rl stadium in the country......'"
ah of course, what visit to the Rugby would be complete without a game of laser tag? or climbing up a plastic wall? or paying a fiver for a pint of beer?
If it does get built (touch wood) - i for one certainly wouldn't be hanging around in the Chav Mecca for my pre and after match activities. Although of course I know plenty of people who love nothing more than a Skiing session before they head off to the rugby.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"Remind us all how long j32 has been on the boil if you would be as so kind.'"
About 4 years and they are still levelling it off.
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| Quote ="stantrin"About 4 years and they are still levelling it off.
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Should be a great playing surface then.
As it goes I reckon this is the best chance both clubs have of securing new grounds its now or never for the both of us, though Cas are probably in a stronger position in reality because if their ground doesn't materialise then they (as much as the fans and probably the club would hate it) have every right to use the community stadium in Stanley if we are successful in our own bid. Should Stanley fail and Glasshoughton come off then it would be curtains for us as I can't see RW etal offering a helping hand. This is an opportunity that we simply cannot afford to miss, the wheels are in motion, we have the right team in place to take us forward, we have the best volunteer group going and only miminal disruption will be caused due to the project. The only backing we need now is the councils, Wakefield is in regeneration, now the City could have its own modern sporting arena and complex and it won't cost the council anything to build it, with the Olympics coming up surely they have to back this project and provide facilities and amenities for future sports stars and fans alike.
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Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFYou mean like he does EVERY TIME this is brought up? I remember at least 5 occassions where he's stated he isn't interested in moving into any stadium with Wakey, and he's also said he wouldn't let Wakefield play out of J32 either, because it's Castleford's stadium for the Castleford Tigers, and it will be getting built contrary to what you and some of the other goons like to say. Come on, bring up your usual counter argument for it
big wow the main plan didn't happen and got delayed for 3-4 month...that's nothing at all in a stadium build (Salford have been delayed what...3 years now?)'"
www.skysports.com/tv_show/story/ ... 22,00.html
Have you forgot about this, back in July on national tv.
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Quote ="Gaslight"=#8000FFYou mean like he does EVERY TIME this is brought up? I remember at least 5 occassions where he's stated he isn't interested in moving into any stadium with Wakey, and he's also said he wouldn't let Wakefield play out of J32 either, because it's Castleford's stadium for the Castleford Tigers, and it will be getting built contrary to what you and some of the other goons like to say. Come on, bring up your usual counter argument for it
big wow the main plan didn't happen and got delayed for 3-4 month...that's nothing at all in a stadium build (Salford have been delayed what...3 years now?)'"
www.skysports.com/tv_show/story/ ... 22,00.html
Have you forgot about this, back in July on national tv.
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| Don't know if anyone sent in any letters to the Express in support of the stadium but it's no surprise what they chose to print. In the interests of balance there should've been one for and one against. Although technically the discontent appears to be against the industrial units rather then the stadium.
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It's fairly difficult to tell the difference in cas', innit!!!!
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"ah of course, what visit to the Rugby would be complete without a game of laser tag? or climbing up a plastic wall? or paying a fiver for a pint of beer?
If it does get built (touch wood) - i for one certainly wouldn't be hanging around in the Chav Mecca for my pre and after match activities. Although of course I know plenty of people who love nothing more than a Skiing session before they head off to the rugby.'"
Where exactly have you been paying 5 quid a pint? i personally do think xscape is expensive for drinks, but no more so than wakefield town centre.
Where is this plastic wall, of the two climbiing walls at glasshoughton one is made of ice, one wood.
You dont think a family might want to to take there kids skiing or surfing (which they may have never had the opportunity to do before) if the facilities are right in front of them?
A few years ago me and some mates used to go to the cinema after the match, sometimes this also extended to bowling, pool or lazer tag. No we have to walk one minute after the game instead of 30 i think we might do so again.
You may not choose use any of the facilities at glasshoughton on match days but others will, the site already averages 3000 visitors a day,so clearly people do want to shop, eat and be entertained there, its not a great leap of logic to see that many rl fans would also want to use these facilities (and that many already do).
I think i just figured out what IHC stands for on your username.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Where exactly have you been paying 5 quid a pint?
i personally do think xscape is expensive for drinks, but no more so than wakefield town centre.
Where is this plastic wall, of the two climbiing walls at glasshoughton one is made of ice, one wood.
You dont think a family might want to to take there kids skiing or surfing (which they may have never had the opportunity to do before) if the facilities are right in front of them?
A few years ago me and some mates used to go to the cinema after the match, sometimes this also extended to bowling, pool or lazer tag. No we have to walk one minute after the game instead of 30 i think we might do so again.
You may not choose use any of the facilities at glasshoughton on match days but others will, the site already averages 3000 visitors a day,so clearly people do want to shop, eat and be entertained there, its not a great leap of logic to see that many rl fans would also want to use these facilities (and that many already do).
I think i just figured out what IHC stands for on your username.'"
Any bloke from Cas or an away supporter who's struggling to get his 'pass signed' by his Mrs to go to the match, need only say to her. "I'll take you to Glasshoughton love, you have an afternoon shopping and I'll walk up to the game, and see you for a chinky/curry afterwards."
If marketed right by Cas this could be a big draw for them, so good luck to them. I hope we both get our grounds and shove two fingers up to the RFL and to all the doomsayers from other clubs (usually ones in new stadiums who used to have h0les).
Merry Christmas
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Any bloke from Cas or an away supporter who's struggling to get his 'pass signed' by his Mrs to go to the match, need only say to her. "I'll take you to Glasshoughton love, you have an afternoon shopping and I'll walk up to the game, and see you for a chinky/curry afterwards."
If marketed right by Cas this could be a big draw for them, so good luck to them. I hope we both get our grounds and shove two fingers up to the RFL and to all the doomsayers from other clubs (usually ones in new stadiums who used to have h0les).
Merry Christmas'"
Thats what is thought LyndsayGill, but did not want to appear sexist!
Excellent post there, i wish more of both sets of fans had the same attitude.
Merry christmas to you too.
p.s i'm hoping you beat the loiners!
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| Quote ="pyeman"Where exactly have you been paying 5 quid a pint?
i personally do think xscape is expensive for drinks, but no more so than wakefield town centre.
Where is this plastic wall, of the two climbiing walls at glasshoughton one is made of ice, one wood.
You dont think a family might want to to take there kids skiing or surfing (which they may have never had the opportunity to do before) if the facilities are right in front of them?
A few years ago me and some mates used to go to the cinema after the match, sometimes this also extended to bowling, pool or lazer tag. No we have to walk one minute after the game instead of 30 i think we might do so again.
You may not choose use any of the facilities at glasshoughton on match days but others will, the site already averages 3000 visitors a day,so clearly people do want to shop, eat and be entertained there, its not a great leap of logic to see that many rl fans would also want to use these facilities (and that many already do).
I think i just figured out what IHC stands for on your username.'"
Oh there's no doubting that Xscape is a good venue for entertainment/shopping/eating etc. I just don't think that having it near your new ground will make a massive impact on attendances, because anyone who would be going to the game anyway wouldn't be swayed by the fact that it's there. Although the train station that comes with it is obviously very useful. I genuinely hope it comes off for Cas, but just feel that a little too much is being made of having Xscape there as some kind of massive benefit
Also you are right about the IHC, but that comes from yeeaarrs ago when I was about 16 - and I don't really it should now really be TrinityI 2HC.
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| I am unsure if this has been viewed by those unable to attend.
I found it on rugbyleague.com
[url=http://www.rugbyleague.com/video-player/111Mr Ted Richardson and Sir Rodney Walker[/url
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