The way he put it last time had the real ring of truth about it, and from sixtogo's post, there is something to it.

I wonder what is in the franchise application, because if it is all about Newmarket, it could all read like the cat litter tray lining.

It wouldn't matter if Newmarket was in the license application as it wouldn't be considered anyway.

Similar to Glasshoughton then?

Indeed it won't be considered either.

This is why I genuinely believe that the decision whether it's us or Cas that get booted out will come down to one word on or not on our application.

That word is Oakwell.

Tell me about it.

Again without the full facts I can’t understand why Oakwell has been dropped from the agenda. It may not of secured a license but it could’ve made the decision a lot closer than it is now.

I agree, it's so obvious. As AG doesn't strike me as a fool you have to trust he has a very good reason for not doing it - the yet to be known plan C perhaps

Makes you wonder, considering it was our only ace up our sleeves. Most disappointing thing is that we are not even making a real fight of staying in SL. It just seems the consequences of been kicked out haven't sunk in. When we go the chances of ever coming back will be very slim!

Let's wait and see until after all the franchise applications are submitted including Cas's 701 page document (joke before anyone gets upset

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That might well earn points in the stadia department but looking at the drop off in mega-successful Saints crowds at Widnes your financial forecasts might become less convincing.

Impossible to disprove a forecast though!

I'd guess a deal to buy back BV from the bank is the best bet.

What I don't understand is how would we pay for the newbuild AG hinted at last week? We don't own bv so can't sell that. Newmarket was based on Yorkcourt providing the land and grants etc making up the rest with it being a community stadium and Wakefield councils two million land loan was only applicable if we were in superleague, which is highly unlikely. Yes it may be a joint venture with another club but where would our share of the cash come from, especially without the income that SL brings?

Is it possible the club are trying to do thing professionally and not releasing things until they are conctrete plans rather than rasing false hope etc or worse still giving competitiors the edge?

Which is the correct way to do it. But when at a fans forum the powers that be sit there and talk about Oakwell being plan B then just a few weeks later, without explanation, its not an option don't be surprised when people start asking questions, especially at such a crucial time for the club.

Is that a statement or question Martin?

Hopefully so, and if that is the case, then as fans we have to grudgingly accept it.
An official statement intimating that, and some idea of time frame would be ideal i think.
Remember, TOGETHER we are stronger.

While ever I have a hole in my ar5e I will never be able to fathom some wakey fans minds out. Doom,gloom and must know everything the club are doing or not doing behind closed doors, some think they have the god given right as to the way the club is run.

=#FF0000FANS. Lets just leave it to the best people involved and it's not us.

I'd call it common sense.

I have never seen a direct quote saying we are not going to oakwell, when it was first mentioned about going to oakwell it was said that details could nit be released due to the other party not wanting it made public, I will not be surprised if it is on our app to go there for the next three years whilst we get a new plan A moving if NM falls through.

No doubt about it, but from someone official i'd rather it be a statement.

Think I actually said the same thing on a thread a week or so ago.It's amazing how quickly people go into a blind panic.

That's why Cas's application will forecast them being in Glasshoughton for 2013

But isn't that what he's saying, sometimes you have to knock the competition of balance or get an edge in which case much as they would probably like to they can't explain every decision to us. I'm sorry but we are a business first and all fans both me and you don't always have a right to know. As fans we forget our place, you go into Tesco and buy an apple and expect it to be fit for purpose - you don't then because you're now a customer expect to be told their entire business strategy on demand would you?

Of course fans shouldn't know everything. Sometimes though its better to say nothing at all rather than little titbits for people to pick up on. AG's statement last week about a possible newbuild and Oakwell no longer was always going to generate debate. Even more so when Oakwell was seen as our one saving grace regarding a licence. Then as rumours circle about NM etc then people start putting 2+2 together and getting allsorts. If he hadn't made that statement then nobody would be any the wiser. Either tell the full story or don't tell any at all.