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| Quote ="vastman"Sums it up.
The truth is that we will have a few more lean years unless we strike lucky with injuries and new signings - but that is not a science you can rely on.
I believe the club have decided that they must turn the clubs structure and especially BV around before we can move forward. It's obvious to me.
We could have limped on with the old floodlights and pocketed a 200k + for another player.
We could have shelved the new pitch and put the cash into the team, it's not like it was gash.
We could have done a bodge repair to the Cats bar.
We could drop the Academy, I know we get central funding but its still costs us and as noted we struggle at present to keep what we produce.
Yet all those things will eventually bear fruit. A good income from a pitch that will be of international standard, lit up by lights that actually work. We will have extra changing facilities for women's teams, kids teams and so on. We will have a main stand that if run correctly will generate cash from day one.
I know it's risky but without a free cash injection it's the only chance of long term success, rather than the odd short term thrill.
Murphy is slightly different to most other players at the club, it won't just be cash with him. He will be wanted by every top team in SL, most notably those who win things. It won't just be about money so unless he's another oddity like TJ he will leave at the first chance to join say Saints. In mitigation that would be the same if he were at HKR, Cas or Salford for example, for me if he maintains his form it's Leeds/Wigan/Warrington or Saints (has Saints player written all over him).
I know it's a heresy and I'd not normally say this but if we can't tie him down in the next few month to at least another two years then we should sell him, there will be buyers. A player cash deal would in this case be better than nothing. This is totally contrary to my every belief but odd as it sounds Murphy has probably arrive two seasons too soon.
Just my opinion and it doesn't make me happy, but that was my starting point, at the moment our cake just isn't big enough bit hopefully in a few years it might be
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Given his links to Huddersfield who will be looking to replace the likes of Cudjoe and Jerry next year they will make a very strong move for him.
At the moment wing isn’t a key position in our squad. We need to work from the inside out.
Paying big for a winger isn’t something we should be doing even if they are very talented.
Hopefully we can get him to extend without breaking the bank.
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| Doesn't it just make you feel glad to be a Trinity supporter! We unearth a gem called Lewis Murphy then immediately start debating who's going to take him off us,Saints,Leeds,Wigan or Hudds.For crying out bloody loud!!!
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| Quote ="FOREVERTRIN"Doesn't it just make you feel glad to be a Trinity supporter! We unearth a gem called Lewis Murphy then immediately start debating who's going to take him off us,Saints,Leeds,Wigan or Hudds.For crying out bloody loud!!!'"
I agree. Let's just work on keeping him.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree. Let's just work on keeping him.'"
So how do you do that then, I’m open to ideas.
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| Quote ="vastman"So how do you do that then, I’m open to ideas.'"
Keep him locked up at the ground and only let him out for training or matches....
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| Quote ="FOREVERTRIN"Doesn't it just make you feel glad to be a Trinity supporter! We unearth a gem called Lewis Murphy then immediately start debating who's going to take him off us,Saints,Leeds,Wigan or Hudds.For crying out bloody loud!!!'"
Being a positive supporter doesn’t mean you live in blissful ignorance does it.
If you want to want to just blindly hope for the best, you anticipate the worst and then work to avoid it.
I’m on the rose tinted end of the spectrum, but not so much that I dismiss obvious issues.
If you want to Murphy to stay like we all do youd better think of a way and not just hope for the best.
If we can tie him up in the next few months we have a good chance. If we don’t and he carries on in the same vain next season we will struggle. Then they will all be on here moaning as to why the club didn’t do more. Will you be one of those? Hope not.
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| Quote ="jonh"Given his links to Huddersfield who will be looking to replace the likes of Cudjoe and Jerry next year they will make a very strong move for him.
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With Shudds not being interested in their local lad when he was starting out maybe this will have the same effect as TJ with Leeds and Gaz Ellis with Cas.
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| Sts are already looking at him
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| Quote ="vastman"Being a positive supporter doesn’t mean you live in blissful ignorance does it.
If you want to want to just blindly hope for the best, you anticipate the worst and then work to avoid it.
I’m on the rose tinted end of the spectrum, but not so much that I dismiss obvious issues.
If you want to Murphy to stay like we all do youd better think of a way and not just hope for the best.
If we can tie him up in the next few months we have a good chance. If we don’t and he carries on in the same vain next season we will struggle. Then they will all be on here moaning as to why the club didn’t do more. Will you be one of those? Hope not.'"
It's lovely that you want to be in the rose tinted group. We meet Wednesdays at 1.30.
There is a test to get in though. You have to show that you have never thrown your Teddy out of the pram when we get beat by Cas or posted that we are definitely down with 10 games to go. I'm sure you'll be OK though.
In terms of keeping Murphy, the first thing to do is offer him a new contract based on this season, not that he's a kid learning his trade as he was when we gave him the last contract. That's a significant boost. Probably double at least.
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| Quote ="PopTart"
In terms of keeping Murphy, the first thing to do is offer him a new contract based on this season, not that he's a kid learning his trade as he was when we gave him the last contract. That's a significant boost. Probably double at least.'"
I agree with this we need to tie him up for as long as possible and make it an attractive package he can’t refuse. I suppose similar to what we did for TJ - if we get as long out of Murphy we can’t complain and then we start again……
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| If Murphy is a game / match winner why not market him.
The club must have some incredible still photo of him flying through the air.
When I say marketing I don't mean Facebook or twitter I'm talking about a poster campaign in a d around the merry city.
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| The reality is when his contract is up he will leave we wont be able to match the big clubs,if we try it will impact the the budget for recuitment. Enjoy watching him while he's here.They all leave for money thats just life, plus who would except less than lineham after his contributions this season
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| Quote ="TALLYWACKER62"They all leave for money thats just life, plus who would except less than lineham after his contributions this season'"
That is an excellent point Tallywacker. Any agent worth his salt will know or have a very good idea what Lineham is on. He will open the negotiatioms by saying " right, you are payimg that clown £X , so lets start there, my lad is far better than him so what will you offer him "
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| 17 tries and 4 assists this year according to the Super League stattos. If losing Aydin means Shaw / Easah step up for next year and Murphy gets improved terms then it's money well spent in my opinion. It feels like a big ask though given every club in the league would probably like him. Let's just see how it all pans out
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Sts are already looking at him'"
Obviously.....
I'd say they had a very good look at him (scoring tries and making them look ordinary) on Monday.........
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| Getting Murphy to commit to a contract extension will becan excellent season ticket marketing tool.
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| Quote ="marc271841"17 tries and 4 assists this year according to the Super League stattos. If losing Aydin means Shaw / Easah step up for next year and Murphy gets improved terms then it's money well spent in my opinion. It feels like a big ask though given every club in the league would probably like him. Let's just see how it all pans out'"
19 tries and 4 assists in 19 games I think including challenge cup.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Getting Murphy to commit to a contract extension will becan excellent season ticket marketing tool.'"
Possibly, but is he quite that well known yet? I'm not so sure.
I get your logic but it will take a bit of spin to get it out to the wider public.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"If Murphy is a game / match winner why not market him.
The club must have some incredible still photo of him flying through the air.
When I say marketing I don't mean Facebook or twitter I'm talking about a poster campaign in a d around the merry city.'"
Wouldn't make any difference. People would just look at the poster and say 'whose he'.
But fundamentally you are correct.
If he wins young player of the year you might be able to milk that a bit. But you wouldn't do that through posters, that's just yesterdays technology I'm afraid.
You'd do it through the media you've just dismissed.
You'd sign Lewis on a new deal with part of it being as the face of the club in the media.
He's a decent looking lad, speaks well on TV, doesn't appear shy. Get him permanently on social media and in the local press, visiting schools, factories, opening shops, local Rugby clubs, anything that makes him a face that people start to know and talk about. Doesn't need to cost much other than the extra we pay Lewis and perhaps a bit of guidance from a local PR company.
Of the social media sites, and I'm no expert, but I think TikTok would be a good one. Put together a really slick video of his tries, and some cracking defence and tie it in with Wakefield, both the club and the city. Due to his acrobatics it might appeal to a broader audience within the Wakefield district. Get the clubs social media followers to back it and see where it goes.
So long as it's done in a fun and tactful way and doesn't set him up for a fall it would probably work. I can't see his media activities bothering the rest of the team, especially now Dave has gone.
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| They seem to be marketing Murphy a fair bit on Twitter with his finishers etc. Driving around Wakey you’d never think we had a RL team. Some savvy advertising, boards etc would make a difference, bring the feel good factor back to the city. Murphy is an advertisers Wet Dream if marketed right.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"They seem to be marketing Murphy a fair bit on Twitter with his finishers etc. Driving around Wakey you’d never think we had a RL team. Some savvy advertising, boards etc would make a difference, bring the feel good factor back to the city. Murphy is an advertisers Wet Dream if marketed right.'"
I only look at the facebook page, but he features in 6 of the first 11 images you come across, so I suspect somebody has got the idea.
He's actually slightly more marketable than TJ. He looks a bit more boy band, a bit more trendy and he is certainly less awkward on TV than TJ was to start with. It's only marginal as TJ wasn't far off. However I might be wrong but I get the feeling that young Murphy might be a bit more up for it than most, he clearly believes in himself and that comes across.
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| Quote ="vastman"Possibly, but is he quite that well known yet? I'm not so sure.
I get your logic but it will take a bit of spin to get it out to the wider public.'"
I was thinking more of renewals for starters.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Getting Murphy to commit to a contract extension will becan excellent season ticket marketing tool.'"
Do you think Luke Gale would be a good marketing tool ?
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Do you think Luke Gale would be a good marketing tool ?'"
Not particularly although I don't think he's quite the antichrist that Gaskell was on arrival. 3 year extension for Murphy would outweigh any negativity amongst the silent season ticket purchasing majority regarding Gale.
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